Spike 5,103 Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 You should really listen to what the members want. If someone like Storts feels it is necessary for something small like the 'edit' line to go and nobody objects then I don't see why it isn't an issue. Cannabis doesn't disagree with the change on a fundamental level, he just thinks that it's unnecessary, in other words he thinks it's pointless but that doesn't negate the fact that someone does think it's a good idea. Unless there is a better argument then 'I don't see why it should be changed' then maybe it should be changed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eco 3,008 Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 Just now, Spike said: You should really listen to what the members want. If someone like Storts feels it is necessary for something small like the 'edit' line to go and nobody objects then I don't see why it isn't an issue. Cannabis doesn't disagree with the change on a fundamental level, he just thinks that it's unnecessary, in other words he thinks it's pointless but that doesn't negate the fact that someone does think it's a good idea. Unless there is a better argument then 'I don't see why it should be changed' then maybe it should be changed. I think, that the biggest issue was members going back and changing posts during a heated argument that either made them look foolish or could get them ban. Also, Prediction Leagues would then HAVE to all be locked, which would require more weekly work for all the admins for those league which aren't run by an admin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike 5,103 Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 I've been on forums long enough to know that a staff v user dichotomy can occur, especially if there is a 'secret staff forum'. It just creates tension between people, especially if the staff start treating their position as something desirable. Everything should ideally be transparent and discussed on an open forum with democracy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber Storts+ 2,424 Posted March 14, 2017 Subscriber Share Posted March 14, 2017 Why not trial it? If there are problems by all means switch it back. But why does it hurt to have a go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eco 3,008 Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 3 minutes ago, Spike said: I've been on forums long enough to know that a staff v user dichotomy can occur, especially if there is a 'secret staff forum'. It just creates tension between people, especially if the staff start treating their position as something desirable. Everything should ideally be transparent and discussed on an open forum with democracy While I absolutely agree, I would say that this doesn't really apply to this situation though correct? It's not like the Admins don't get the same EDIT line as other members. In this regards, everything is literally the same for all users. I'm personally fine with either way, but if this was to happen, the Prediction Leagues would have to tighten up with locking threads, as well as the staff would have to be on the lookout for bannable offenses that may happen in the 'heat of the moment' but later be covered up by just a deletion/edit. Just trying to think of this issue from both sides - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike 5,103 Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 Just now, ATL said: While I absolutely agree, I would say that this doesn't really apply to this situation though correct? It's not like the Admins don't get the same EDIT line as other members. In this regards, everything is literally the same for all users. I'm personally fine with either way, but if this was to happen, the Prediction Leagues would have to tighten up with locking threads, as well as the staff would have to be on the lookout for bannable offenses that may happen in the 'heat of the moment' but later be covered up by just a deletion/edit. Just trying to think of this issue from both sides - I didn't say it did apply to this scenario. Just that it can be a potential issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berserker 1,332 Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 1 minute ago, ATL said: While I absolutely agree, I would say that this doesn't really apply to this situation though correct? It's not like the Admins don't get the same EDIT line as other members. In this regards, everything is literally the same for all users. I'm personally fine with either way, but if this was to happen, the Prediction Leagues would have to tighten up with locking threads, as well as the staff would have to be on the lookout for bannable offenses that may happen in the 'heat of the moment' but later be covered up by just a deletion/edit. Just trying to think of this issue from both sides - From what i know Staff don't get the same EDIT line we get, and also they can see whether you edited a post, with or without line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber Storts+ 2,424 Posted March 14, 2017 Subscriber Share Posted March 14, 2017 2 hours ago, Storts said: Why not trial it? If there are problems by all means switch it back. But why does it hurt to have a go @Rab Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rab 1,294 Posted March 14, 2017 Author Share Posted March 14, 2017 We're currently looking into a solution that allows a grace period which will prevent the edit line from showing up if the post is edited within a certain amount of time. Reading the thread the majority of the issues with the edit line are coming from people making typos and wanting to quickly edit it just after the post has been made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber Storts+ 2,424 Posted March 14, 2017 Subscriber Share Posted March 14, 2017 1 hour ago, Rab said: We're currently looking into a solution that allows a grace period which will prevent the edit line from showing up if the post is edited within a certain amount of time. Reading the thread the majority of the issues with the edit line are coming from people making typos and wanting to quickly edit it just after the post has been made. That is correct. That would be the perfect solution for me. Thanks for the update testing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber Storts+ 2,424 Posted March 14, 2017 Subscriber Share Posted March 14, 2017 3 minutes ago, Cannabis said: See, the Gestapo did have it's moments . Hasn't happened yet... not counting my chickens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rab 1,294 Posted March 14, 2017 Author Share Posted March 14, 2017 @StortsCan you do me a favour and edit the post where you said thanks for the update. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber Storts+ 2,424 Posted March 14, 2017 Subscriber Share Posted March 14, 2017 I did - but may have been too late? try again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rab 1,294 Posted March 14, 2017 Author Share Posted March 14, 2017 Nope. Can you now edit that post. Thanks, it works. I'll apply the fix to the default theme just now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rab 1,294 Posted March 14, 2017 Author Share Posted March 14, 2017 There is now a grace time limit of 10 minutes. Any edits after 10 minutes will display the Edited by line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber Storts+ 2,424 Posted March 14, 2017 Subscriber Share Posted March 14, 2017 Thanks for your help! That's great Perseverance pays off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rab 1,294 Posted March 14, 2017 Author Share Posted March 14, 2017 Removing it completely wasn't viable for certain aspects of the forum (Predication leagues, yes topics can be closed although requires manual attention). The grace time is perfect as the main issue was typos and this covers that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toinho 2,210 Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 Haha fucking hell Stortsy 1-0 Rab Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber Storts+ 2,424 Posted March 14, 2017 Subscriber Share Posted March 14, 2017 15 minutes ago, Rab said: Removing it completely wasn't viable for certain aspects of the forum (Predication leagues, yes topics can be closed although requires manual attention). The grace time is perfect as the main issue was typos and this covers that. I agree - that's fine, main issue was the grace period. Had to dig pretty deep there though, was in to some reserves I had hoped I wouldn't have to go to Three-pronged staff attack from Rab, Stan and Cannabis, as well as ATL chipping in. Was a tough battle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rab 1,294 Posted March 14, 2017 Author Share Posted March 14, 2017 Perhaps if you had been more specific originally rather than just asking for it to be turned off completely, we would have came to this solution much earlier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber Storts+ 2,424 Posted March 14, 2017 Subscriber Share Posted March 14, 2017 Where is the fun in that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeadLinesman 5,938 Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 11 hours ago, Berserker said: From what i know Staff don't get the same EDIT line we get, and also they can see whether you edited a post, with or without line. I always got the edit line. Staff in no way were any different and that will continue to be the case. The last thing there will ever be on this forum is a 'them and us' attitude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafa Beneathus 288 Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 On 14/03/2017 at 10:47 PM, Anton said: Haha fucking hell Stortsy 1-0 Rab This is how the old school revolution started on the forum that we shall not mention. Slowly but surely the grass roots of the community won the smaller battles before winning the war and evil dictator Scout FC was brought down. Well done Storts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cure 197 Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 I keep automatically following threads like this one whenever I post. Is there any way I could disable this feature because the amount of mail I receive is unreal. Out of interest where is CC Is Klass? Would be great to see him on here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Stan 18,380 Posted March 16, 2017 Administrator Share Posted March 16, 2017 4 minutes ago, Cure said: I keep automatically following threads like this one whenever I post. Is there any way I could disable this feature because the amount of mail I receive is unreal. Out of interest where is CC Is Klass? Would be great to see him on here. Click on your name top right corner Click on Account Settings On the page that loads, click on Notification Settings on the right hand side Untick the boxes underneath Automatically Follow Content Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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