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Paris Saint-Germain Football Club, commonly known as Paris Saint-Germain and familiarly as PSG or Paris SG, is a French sports club founded in 1970, and based in the city of Paris in France. The club is most notable for its professional football team, which plays in the highest tier of French football, Ligue 1.

Paris SG is also the only club to have never been relegated from Ligue 1, one of only two French clubs to have won a major European title and the most popular football club in France. Moreover, the Red-and-Blues have a long-standing rivalry with Olympique de Marseille. The duo contest French football's most notorious match, known as Le Classique.

 

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Batard    326

Plastic club full of plastic mong fans who's egos have hit stratospheric levels of spaz since QSI invested in them. Germans grumble about Red Bull, PSG are considerably worse than Red Bull. But PSG is the result of the Premier League greed machine. They were cheaper (and much easier) to acquire than a Premier League club. But here we are with PSG, who on one hand have provided teams greater impetus to push on but eventually Ligue 1 will be as flat as the Scottish Premier. The best French players aren't going to sign for PSG because PSG aren't interested in them. It's marquee foreign names now all the way. It's unsustainable unless PSG breakout of the French footballing setup. There's just not enough money elsewhere in France to compete long term with this.

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DNA    3
On 8/4/2017 at 10:04 AM, Batard said:

Plastic club full of plastic mong fans who's egos have hit stratospheric levels of spaz since QSI invested in them. Germans grumble about Red Bull, PSG are considerably worse than Red Bull. But PSG is the result of the Premier League greed machine. They were cheaper (and much easier) to acquire than a Premier League club. But here we are with PSG, who on one hand have provided teams greater impetus to push on but eventually Ligue 1 will be as flat as the Scottish Premier. The best French players aren't going to sign for PSG because PSG aren't interested in them. It's marquee foreign names now all the way. It's unsustainable unless PSG breakout of the French footballing setup. There's just not enough money elsewhere in France to compete long term with this.

Monaco seem to have a good setup and systems in place to compete with them. If they keep hold of Mbappe for one more season and the likes of Tielemans etc work out.. do you think they can retain their title?

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RandoEFC    368

If PSG are beaten to the title two years running with the resources available to them, it's got to be one of the most embarrassing failures in football and one could argue they should go full @Cannabis and shut down the club. 

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...Dan    58

Monaco have definitely been taken down a level with the departures, whereas PSG have added one of the best players in the world. I think things will be back to normal this season. PSG will clinch the title with a few games to spare.

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El_Loco    111
9 hours ago, Cannabis said:

PSG have bid 162 million for Mbappe.

 

 

 

:ph34r:

 

Now, that´s interesting. Not only because Mbappe is a huge talent, but because PSG would found themselves in a position where they´d have to sell not to get into trouble with the FFP. There could be some bargains in that squad. Matuidi, Draxler, Di María could all be forced to move and since they´ll need to sell, I can see some teams trying to lowball PSG there. It´ll be interesting. Kimpembe, Aurier. Matuidi and Draxler would be some names big teams should be all over. 

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Spike    523

A little brown kid was at work over the weekend with his father and brother. The kid was wearing a Barcelona shirt and I asked him if they were his favourite team, he replied: 'No, I like Paris Saint-Germaine'. Neymar already paying dividends. :ph34r: Heh, the kid seemed to know his stuff, I told him my idol was Frank Lampard and he knows who he is.

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Sport claims PSG have agreed a €180 million deal with their Ligue 1 rivals for the 18-year-old France international, who was also said to be a target for Barcelona and Manchester City. That breaks down as €150m up front and €30m to follow in bonuses and additional payments and would take PSG's total spend to over €400m this summer.

Marca agrees, although they report a slight variation of the transfer fee, and reports documentation is already being filed to ratify the move that will see Mbappe return to his hometown. They also say that next up for ambitious PSG is a move for Atletico Madrid goalkeeper Jan Oblak.

In France, though, Le Parisien has an altogether different take, with the outlet reporting that Monaco and PSG have both denied an offer has been made or that the transfer is happening at all.

ESPN 

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Asura    84

You know you are tin pot club when you dont have a separate thread for yourself on TF365 until you spent a 200mill on a player. 

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13 minutes ago, Azeem98 said:

Founded in 1970? Wasn't there any Paris based club before that?

A club called Red Star FC mate, formed in 1897 (120 years ago). They currently play in the third tier after being relegated from Ligue 2 last year. 

There's also Paris FC who were formed in 1969, a year before PSG.

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Azeem98    41
6 minutes ago, Cannabis said:

A club called Red Star FC mate, formed in 1897 (120 years ago). They currently play in the third tier after being relegated from Ligue 2 last year. 

There's also Paris FC who were formed in 1969, a year before PSG.

It would have been very odd if an iconic city like Paris didn't had a hundered year old football club 

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El_Loco    111

Little time left but I expect at least one of Di María, Draxler, Gonçalo Guedes, Pastore, Ben Arfa to leave PSG.

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bozziovai    15

close to 500 million for Neymar this season and a potential 300 million for Mbappe for next season, coz as they say mbappe will cost them 180, but that still don't include the add ons.   remember, Neymar was initially stated at 222 but it came to close to 500 million when everything was computed.    So, that's nearly a billion in 2 seasons.   If UEFA won't punish PSG, then UEFA will lost all it's credibility ...

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Stan    864
2 minutes ago, bozziovai said:

close to 500 million for Neymar this season and a potential 300 million for Mbappe for next season, coz as they say mbappe will cost them 180, but that still don't include the add ons.   remember, Neymar was initially stated at 222 but it came to close to 500 million when everything was computed.    So, that's nearly a billion in 2 seasons.   If UEFA won't punish PSG, then UEFA will lost all it's credibility ...

no. an add-on is an add-on for a reason. It's not money they've actually spent.

Neymar's deal is £222m. 

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SirBalon    650
23 minutes ago, Stan said:

no. an add-on is an add-on for a reason. It's not money they've actually spent.

Neymar's deal is £222m. 

Neymar's deal isn't just €222m for PSG. It is for Barcelona because that's what they've received. But PSG have had to pay tax in France and Spain for that. Plus FFP take into account wages and contracts... Neymar's deal comes to almost €500m. This deal was analysed by one of the most important sports lawyers in Europe when it was only being speculated on which is why Barça came out with the statements about it wouldn't happen. 

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SirBalon    650
34 minutes ago, Stan said:

but between the clubs, it's £222m to Barcelona...

Yep! But for UEFA it isn't and UEFA set the FFP rules. 

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SirBalon    650
13 minutes ago, bozziovai said:

the best irony would be if monaco will win this years trophy :D:D 

If only! xD

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bozziovai    15

http://www.goal.com/en/news/nme-will-rock-football-neymar-mbappe-edinson-the-best/1l9sbmugtywql1utvgkp74o7t6

 

just an example of a whole lot of bullocks from the press.    How can this trio be of importance when they're playing in the french league.   No offense to any french here, but Ligue 1 isn't considered to be in the top 4 in europe.    And that win against Barcelona on the first leg of the UCL quarters last year was clearly a fluke.     But only time will tell whether this money-team will perform well in the UCL.

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Nasser Al-Khelaifi: Swiss prosecutors investigating PSG chairman

 

Criminal proceedings have been opened into Paris St-Germain's chairman Nasser Al-Khelaifi by Swiss prosecutors.

The proceedings are connected to an ongoing investigation into former Fifa secretary generalJerome Valcke, and relate to the sale of World Cup TV rights to BeInSports, of which Al-Khelaifi is chief executive.

Last year, The Office of the Attorney General of Switzerland (OAG) said it was investigating Valcke for "various acts of criminal mismanagement".

In a statement on Thursday, the OAG said the new proceedings involving Al-Khelaifi had been "opened on the basis" of its findings.

It said it was "suspected that Jerome Valcke accepted undue advantages from a businessman in the sports rights sector in connection with the award of media rights for certain countries at the FIFA World Cups in 2018, 2022, 2026 and 2030 and from Nasser Al-Khelaifi in connection with the award of media rights for certain countries at the FIFA World Cups in 2026 and 2030".

The new investigation - that which relates to Al-Khelaifi - is being conducted in partnership with authorities in France, Greece, Italy and Spain, and was opened in March 2017, the OAG said.

It added that its representatives had interviewed Valcke in Switzerland as a suspect on Thursday.

Valcke was banned by Fifa for 10 years - although he has appealed against that ruling.

BBC

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On 8/31/2017 at 11:38 AM, bozziovai said:

http://www.goal.com/en/news/nme-will-rock-football-neymar-mbappe-edinson-the-best/1l9sbmugtywql1utvgkp74o7t6

 

just an example of a whole lot of bullocks from the press.    How can this trio be of importance when they're playing in the french league.   No offense to any french here, but Ligue 1 isn't considered to be in the top 4 in europe.    And that win against Barcelona on the first leg of the UCL quarters last year was clearly a fluke.     But only time will tell whether this money-team will perform well in the UCL.

Mate, do you really think that 4-0 drubbing of Barca was a fluke? That was a comprehensively thorough beat down of the highest order.

That would mean that the 2013 Bayern 4-0 and 3-0 Champions League wins over Barca, the Juventus 3-0 this year, etc. etc. were flukes too?

Let's give credit where credit is due: PSG would win Ligue 1 in their sleep. Emery's challenge is to keep his superstars focused on Ligue 1, whilst giving their all in the CL.

FC Barcelona was never ever known for defensive prowess (it can be said that defensive frailties are endemic to Barca's very way of playing, such is the emphasis on passing and pressing), but the defensive shortcomings have become more pronounced in recent seasons, due to the over-reliance on Messi.

Barca were seconds away from being knocked out in last season's CL by PSG (Unai Emery got his tactics all wrong in the 2nd leg, should take attacked from the get-go like in Paris: a lone goal early in the proceedings really would have knocked us out that juncture in the game). Here's a stat for those that love stats: in the past 12 seasons (probably beyond then too, can't be arsed to look it up now) that Barca don't win the CL, whomever knocks them out have progressed to the Champions League Final, at the very least. Barca's like: "Wanna get to the CL Final? Gotta get thru us!!"

That would suggest that PSG would have played Real Madrid in last season's Final.

I fully expect the new and improved iteration of PSG (with Dani Alves, Mbappe and Neymar) to make the CL semis this season, at the very least. They're genuine challengers for the Champions League this season: don't let the much bandied about mantra of the "inferiority of the French league" fool you. Neymar and his Brazilian counterparts are honing and perfecting their cohesiveness, chemistry and preparations for the 2018 World Cup whilst in PSG gear. Don't think for one second that they won't make the most of it.

Oh, and back to the topic at hand? Remains to be seen whether this will affect their campaign. If I were a betting man, I'd say no, not with the retinue of lawyers Al-Khelaifi has on retainer.

http://www.sport-english.com/en/news/futbol-internacional/psg-president-al-khelaifi-investigated-for-corruption-6349037

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16 hours ago, 11Neymar Ousmane Dembélé11 said:

Mate, do you really think that 4-0 drubbing of Barca was a fluke? That was a comprehensively thorough beat down of the highest order.

That would mean that the 2013 Bayern 4-0 and 3-0 Champions League wins over Barca, the Juventus 3-0 this year, etc. etc. were flukes too?

Let's give credit where credit is due: PSG would win Ligue 1 in their sleep. Emery's challenge is to keep his superstars focused on Ligue 1, whilst giving their all in the CL.

FC Barcelona was never ever known for defensive prowess (it can be said that defensive frailties are endemic to Barca's very way of playing, such is the emphasis on passing and pressing), but the defensive shortcomings have become more pronounced in recent seasons, due to the over-reliance on Messi.

Barca were seconds away from being knocked out in last season's CL by PSG (Unai Emery got his tactics all wrong in the 2nd leg, should take attacked from the get-go like in Paris: a lone goal early in the proceedings really would have knocked us out that juncture in the game). Here's a stat for those that love stats: in the past 12 seasons (probably beyond then too, can't be arsed to look it up now) that Barca don't win the CL, whomever knocks them out have progressed to the Champions League Final, at the very least. Barca's like: "Wanna get to the CL Final? Gotta get thru us!!"

That would suggest that PSG would have played Real Madrid in last season's Final.

I fully expect the new and improved iteration of PSG (with Dani Alves, Mbappe and Neymar) to make the CL semis this season, at the very least. They're genuine challengers for the Champions League this season: don't let the much bandied about mantra of the "inferiority of the French league" fool you. Neymar and his Brazilian counterparts are honing and perfecting their cohesiveness, chemistry and preparations for the 2018 World Cup whilst in PSG gear. Don't think for one second that they won't make the most of it.

Oh, and back to the topic at hand? Remains to be seen whether this will affect their campaign. If I were a betting man, I'd say no, not with the retinue of lawyers Al-Khelaifi has on retainer.

http://www.sport-english.com/en/news/futbol-internacional/psg-president-al-khelaifi-investigated-for-corruption-6349037

Fine-tuning their play with each other whilst at PSG in preparation for the 2018 World Cup. I think only the 2006 World Cup winning squad of Italy has as many instrumental players from one team (Juventus). Then again, Juventus has always supplied loads of players to the Italian national team.

Bodes well for Brasil??

The 2018 World Cup Final will hopefully and probably feature any combination of Brasil, Germany and Argentina. France the dark horse.

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