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True Blue    193

High chances of us getting an English team since we can get all of them (i think). Hope we miss them as i already see them enough in the league.

Think Chelsea will get:

Pot 2: Barcelona or PSG

Pot 3: Napoli or Roma

Pot 4: Leipzig or Sporting Lisbon

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Stan    1,000
1 minute ago, True Blue said:

High chances of us getting an English team since we can get all of them (i think). Hope we miss them as i already see them enough in the league.

Think Chelsea will get:

Pot 2: Barcelona or PSG

Pot 3: Napoli or Roma

Pot 4: Leipzig or Sporting Lisbon

Teams from same nation can't be drawn against each other. Who do you mean by 'us'? 

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True Blue    193
4 minutes ago, Stan said:

Teams from same nation can't be drawn against each other. Who do you mean by 'us'? 

Never mind it slipped my mind that we played Liverpool in the group stage years ago, but it was because they won it a year before.

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SirBalon    717

What pot are Arsenal in? :ph34r:

Sick joking aside...  This year's draw looks very strong and very interesting.  There's gonna be some serious groups out there...  And then there'll be Real Madrid's of course.

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Mel81x    76
Just now, SirBalon said:

What pot are Arsenal in? :ph34r:

Sick joking aside...  This year's draw looks very strong and very interesting.  There's gonna be some serious groups out there...  And then there'll be Real Madrid's of course.

I think we're going to have a very entertaining group stage and not just because Liverpool are in but you're right it looks well balanced across the board.

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SirBalon    717

I want to try and do Real Madrid's group, give it a go! ;)

  • Real Madrid
  • Borussia Dortmund
  • Olympiakos
  • Quebec

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El_Loco    120

Trying to think of a group of the death, it´d be like this: 

Real Madrid               

Man City/ Man United 

Napoli 

Sporting 

 

or 

Real Madrid 

PSG 

Liverpool/Tottenham 

Feyenoord

 

18 minutes ago, SirBalon said:

I want to try and do Real Madrid's group, give it a go! ;)

  • Real Madrid
  • Borussia Dortmund
  • Olympiakos
  • Quebec

Come on, we all know they always get the toughest draws! :4_joy:

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SirBalon    717
2 minutes ago, El_Loco said:

Trying to think of a group of the death, it´d be like this: 

Real Madrid               

Man City/ Man United 

Napoli 

Sporting 

 

or 

Real Madrid 

PSG 

Liverpool/Tottenham 

Feyenoord

 

Come on, we all know they always get the toughest draws! :4_joy:

They're even gonna get a Canadian side by the looks of things! :o

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Stan    1,000
2 minutes ago, El_Loco said:

Trying to think of a group of the death, it´d be like this: 

Real Madrid 

PSG 

Napoli/Spurs 

Celtic

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El_Loco    120
3 minutes ago, Stan said:

Real Madrid 

PSG 

Napoli/Spurs 

Celtic

That´d be an insane group. One must wonder for whom our beloved friend Antoñito would cheer in a match between PSG and Madrid. xD

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SirBalon    717
1 minute ago, El_Loco said:

That´d be an insane group. One must wonder for whom our beloved friend Antoñito would cheer in a match between PSG and Madrid. xD

I'd need a spitting bucket for that game! xD

But traditions must never die...  I'd be rooting for QSI FC :ph34r:;)

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El_Loco    120
1 minute ago, SirBalon said:

I'd need a spitting bucket for that game! xD

But traditions must never die...  I'd be rooting for QSI FC :ph34r:;)

El efecto Neymar, hasta El Cid hincha para el equipo de los moros! xD Qué grande eres, Neymito! :4_joy:

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SirBalon    717
1 minute ago, El_Loco said:

El efecto Neymar, hasta El Cid hincha para el equipo de los moros! xD Qué grande eres, Neymito! :4_joy:

Dicen que en Toledo vivían Judios, Cristianos y Musulmanes en paz!

Mi casa será una versión de Toledo ese día si sucede o también una mini Jerusalén. ;)

Pero vestido de Templario! xD

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RandoEFC    406

Am I being retarded or are those pots telling me that Shakhtar and Spartak have better coefficients than Barcelona and co?

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5 minutes ago, RandoEFC said:

Am I being retarded or are those pots telling me that Shakhtar and Spartak have better coefficients than Barcelona and co?

They go in Pot 1 because they won their league. I can see the argument behind rewarding them for that, but I don't think it's a good system because you can get uneven groups and end up with shit teams in the knockout round while good sides get knocked out early.

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RandoEFC    406
Just now, Burning Gold said:

They go in Pot 1 because they won their league. I can see the argument behind rewarding them for that, but I don't think it's a good system because you can get uneven groups and end up with shit teams in the knockout round while good sides get knocked out early.

Bollocks that. Nothing wrong with the old system. Football has clearly never heard the term "if it ain't broke don't fix it".

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Looking at a best possible scenario for English sides. 

Surely United and City want Juve from Pot One, if they don't get Moscow or Benfica? It then rules out Napoli, Roma and obviously Liverpool and Tottenham from Pot Three meaning you're left with Basel, Olympiakos, Anderlecht and Besiktas. 

From a Chelsea point of view, I can't see much which guarantees them a much easier route to the knockout stage. I'd say that avoiding Napoli and Roma is their greatest challenge as then whoever they get from Pot Two and themselves should be progressing. 

For Tottenham and Liverpool, I think the best case is Benfica, Moscow or Donetsk. That does leave a tough draw from Pot Two but barring Leipzig and maybe Feyenoord, it shouldn't be too bad for them. 

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5 minutes ago, The Artful Dodger said:

Joke that Man Utd are in such a high pot.

They won the Europa League, they won an actual trophy, in fact they won two trophies. It's a joke that England has so many teams and the reward for doing nothing is a Champions League place. 

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12 minutes ago, Smiley Culture said:

They won the Europa League, they won an actual trophy, in fact they won two trophies. It's a joke that England has so many teams and the reward for doing nothing is a Champions League place. 

I agree but winning a sub par competition should not give you preference in the premier one.

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4 minutes ago, The Artful Dodger said:

I agree but winning a sub par competition should not give you preference in the premier one.

But finishing 17 points behind the league winners should? Isn't that rewarding failure over rewarding winners, no matter the trophies relevance?

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HK85    151
10 hours ago, RandoEFC said:

Bollocks that. Nothing wrong with the old system. Football has clearly never heard the term "if it ain't broke don't fix it".

The old system was Champions only. 

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53 minutes ago, Smiley Culture said:

But finishing 17 points behind the league winners should? Isn't that rewarding failure over rewarding winners, no matter the trophies relevance?

As I said, I agree but one doesn't contradict the other. Winning a subpar cup, espeically with the easiest run i've ever seen to the final, shouldn't be rewarded like that. They should be in the bottom pot/

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9 minutes ago, HoneyNUFC said:

Could be a group of Spartak Moscow, Manchester United, Basel and Carrier Bag

phwoahhhh :445_lifter:

carrier bag? xD if they end up playing in the same group as Qarabag, Henrikh M. would probably not play the away match due to the armenian ban. 

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Stan    1,000

no idea if this is possible because of all the weird and wonderful ramifications that UEFA like to chuck in, but here's my guess:

Real Madrid
Man City
Napoli
APOEL

Chelsea
Atletico
Anderlecht
Celtic

Benfica
Barcelona
Roma
Leipzig

Monaco
Dortmund
Tottenham
Sporting Lisbon

Bayern Munich
Man Utd
Basel
Maribor

Spartak Moscow
PSG
Liverpool
Feyenoord

Juventus
Porto
Olympiakos
CSKA Moscow

Shakhtar
Sevilla
Besiktas
Qarabaq

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Cannabis    1,156
14 hours ago, SirBalon said:

I want to try and do Real Madrid's group, give it a go! ;)

  • Real Madrid
  • Borussia Dortmund
  • Olympiakos
  • Quebec

Real Madrid

Quarabag

Bristol Rovers

Real Madrid Castilla 

 

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LFCMike    95

Are Man Utd neutral (no country protection) because they qualified via the Europa League or can they still not draw an English team?

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SirBalon    717
5 minutes ago, LFCMike said:

Are Man Utd neutral (no country protection) because they qualified via the Europa League or can they still not draw an English team?

Is that a real question mate?

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LFCMike    95
14 minutes ago, SirBalon said:

Is that a real question mate?

Yeah? In 05/06 when England had 5 teams (Everton didn't make it to the groups) Liverpool had no country protection and drew Chelsea in the group stages. I know the situation is slightly different but didn't know whether the rule applied to those who only qualified via their league position and not via other means

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14 hours ago, Cicero said:

Hope we get a tough group. Want our players to be ready off the getco

im sure kante is ready to play his first european cup (s). His impressive stamina is finally going to be tested with the heavy schedule. he has benefited from only playing league games and domestic cups and i wonder if he will it slow it down a bit due to the heavy amount of games. the problem with that is that he lacks the attributes of a complete midfielder and if he slows down how effective will he be? i would say conte should rotate him but they just don't  have the depth. 

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SirBalon    717
1 hour ago, LFCMike said:

Yeah? In 05/06 when England had 5 teams (Everton didn't make it to the groups) Liverpool had no country protection and drew Chelsea in the group stages. I know the situation is slightly different but didn't know whether the rule applied to those who only qualified via their league position and not via other means

Yeah mate... Clubs from the same country can't be drawn in the same group. 

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Stan    1,000
47 minutes ago, HoneyNUFC said:

As far as I am aware Man Utd can't draw any other teams from Thailand

their fans in Thailand will be devastated

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