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I've always been interested in this but never convinced by any of the conspiracy theories:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyatlov_Pass_incident

A group of hikers are found scattered around, some hundreds of metres from their tent, some almost naked, having slashed their way out of their tent in the middle of the night. Some had sustained massive injuries and one had their eyes and tongue removed. 

Some have said it was a yeti attack, some that it was aliens, others that it was top  secret Soviet testing.

To me it the most convincing explanation is that somehow they woke up and got themselves into a panic, probably thinking there was an avalanche, and scrambled out of their tent.

But it's still a very curious incident. 

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2 hours ago, Inverted said:

I've always been interested in this but never convinced by any of the conspiracy theories:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyatlov_Pass_incident

A group of hikers are found scattered around, some hundreds of metres from their tent, some almost naked, having slashed their way out of their tent in the middle of the night. Some had sustained massive injuries and one had their eyes and tongue removed. 

Some have said it was a yeti attack, some that it was aliens, others that it was top  secret Soviet testing.

To me it the most convincing explanation is that somehow they woke up and got themselves into a panic, probably thinking there was an avalanche, and scrambled out of their tent.

But it's still a very curious incident. 

That explanation doesn’t really account for the tongue and eyeball removal though?

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On 15/03/2019 at 17:25, Azeem said:

The Third World War must be fomented by taking advantage of the differences caused by the “agentur” of the “Illuminati” between the political Zionists and the leaders of Islamic World. The war must be conducted in such a way that Islam and political Zionism mutually destroy each other. Meanwhile the other nations, once more divided on this issue will be constrained to fight to the point of complete physical, moral, spiritual and economical exhaustion…

Albert Pike's letter from 1871 which was at display in the British Museum Library in London until 1977 allegedly. 

https://safenetforum.org/t/albert-pikes-three-world-war-letter-1871/22051

This so ver this happening around us... 

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@Devil-Dick Willie one for you, a long read though :o

 

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But we really can't afford to do this anymore, nor can we afford to defend science simply by talking about its successes. Climate change "skeptics" already know about the marvels of chemotherapy...but what does that have to do with the spike in global temperatures in 1998? And philosophers of science have spent the last hundred years looking in vain for some definitive logical "criterion of demarcation" between science and non-science.

A better way to respond is to stop talking about proof, certainty, and logic, and start talking more about scientific "values." In my book The Scientific Attitude: Defending Science From Denial, Fraud, And Pseudosience, I defend the idea that what is most distinctive about science is not its method but its "attitude": the idea that scientists care about evidence and are willing to change their views based on new evidence. This is what truly separates scientists from their deniers and imitators.

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On 27/03/2019 at 11:42, Inverted said:

I've always been interested in this but never convinced by any of the conspiracy theories:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyatlov_Pass_incident

A group of hikers are found scattered around, some hundreds of metres from their tent, some almost naked, having slashed their way out of their tent in the middle of the night. Some had sustained massive injuries and one had their eyes and tongue removed. 

Some have said it was a yeti attack, some that it was aliens, others that it was top  secret Soviet testing.

To me it the most convincing explanation is that somehow they woke up and got themselves into a panic, probably thinking there was an avalanche, and scrambled out of their tent.

But it's still a very curious incident. 

 

This one's a classic, but easy solved. Russian airbursting shells drives them suddenly from the tent and kills some, the cold kills the rest. Animals eat some bits.

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On 21/08/2017 at 23:42, Smiley Culture said:

Randomly read a load of conspiracy stuff on Madeline McCann the other week. How true some of the "statements" were is something to look into but there was some damning stuff in there. 

How dogs can find cadaver scent in a car they rented days after the murder/'kidnapping' is simply not explainable.  Also, she washed that fucking cuddle cat.  There is not a mother on earth who would wash their kids cuddly toy if the kid vanished, not 1.  They are 2 very dodgy characters with very dodgy connections in the kiddiefiddling area.  

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https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8053063/amp/Did-1981-Dean-Koontz-thriller-Eyes-Darkness-predict-coronavirus-outbreak.html

Koontz novel The Eyes Of Darkness describes a killer virus named 'Wuhan-400'

The fictional virus was developed as a bioweapon in Wuhan research lab

Coronavirus first emerged from the same Chinese city in December 2019

However there are several big differences between the novel and real life 

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17 hours ago, Azeem said:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8053063/amp/Did-1981-Dean-Koontz-thriller-Eyes-Darkness-predict-coronavirus-outbreak.html

Koontz novel The Eyes Of Darkness describes a killer virus named 'Wuhan-400'

The fictional virus was developed as a bioweapon in Wuhan research lab

Coronavirus first emerged from the same Chinese city in December 2019

However there are several big differences between the novel and real life 

That's more of a coincidence theory then, than a conspiracy theory.

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So after ample research into the topic. I'm convinced Hitler's official death story is not true. A person with such cult following having no photographic, eyewitness or forensic evidence doesn't add up. 

There were legit operations to find him until the 50s. I don't believe the he lived quite long theories. He probably died in some secret bunker after a few weeks/months. 

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47 minutes ago, Beelzebub said:

So after ample research into the topic. I'm convinced Hitler's official death story is not true. A person with such cult following having no photographic, eyewitness or forensic evidence doesn't add up. 

There were legit operations to find him until the 50s. I don't believe the he lived quite long theories. He probably died in some secret bunker after a few weeks/months. 

I suspect the same too and also suspect the Russians were sceptical.

I have seen a photo of an aged Hitler allegedly alive  with a family in Argentina, it looked realistic and if the site publish it again I will try and post. 

They could have prepared something as knew the end was coming like faking the dental records.

Yet if this was so doubt Himmler was aware of it.

I do recall reading about Leon Degrelle the Belgian that fought for the SS on the Russian front who offered to take senior Nazis away in an last minute flight which crash landed. He lived out his life in Spain who refused to hand him over to the US. He was wanted probably for his different views on the Holocaust.

Another was Otto Skorzeny who avoided the hangman's noose as a British officer broke ranks and also alleged British troops had dressed in German uniforms on occasion. Skorzeny authorised this in the Battle of the Bulge as a SS Panzer commander to fool the Americans.

 

 

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The problem with a lot of conspiracy theories is they are less likely than the other option. 

E.g if climate change was a hoax it would mean between 20000 and 400 000 people would be lying. It's very unlikely it wouldn't be uncovered. So it's just more likely climate change is happening. So it's not really rational to believe it's not happening 

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In the West many people do not speak out because of the perceived consequences.

Some break ranks later here is one -

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2022/jul/27/bbc-presenter-nicky-campbell-says-he-was-victim-of-abuse-at-school-in-1970s

In normal schools the risk is of bullying, I fought my way through school and it was voilent.

In boarding schools the risk is of sexual abuse. The problem there is even the police are reluctant to get involved as difficult to prove and a schools reputation can be seriously damaged. 

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