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Patrick Ewing hospitalised with COVID.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/hcp/planning-scenarios.html Extensive model released by the CDC. Key takeaways.... their best guess infection mortality rate is 0.4%, with a worst case value of 1%, and best case of 0.2%. A person aged 50-64 is 4 times more likely to die than someone aged 0-49. A person aged 65+ is 26 times more likely to die than someone aged 0-49.

Is it possible trump doesn't actually understand what per capita actually means?

But on the plus side there's a chance it's true, in which case bleach injections could be just around the corner!

Honestly I don't think he's smart enough to make that move. My thought was he was just trying to be in control of the news cycle by dictating the terms.

Donald Trump reveals he's taking hydroxychloroquine preemptively, to ward off the coronavirus.

In working from home I'd have to say: I've never been busier or more productive. I've never been less physically active I interact with a much smaller circle of employees than in the office. I love being able to take my kids out for a bike ride in my lunch break The high point that comes at the end of the week, with Friday being a social lunch at work, and talk of beers after, and generally being psyched about the weekend has all disappeared.

I manage 9 people in this situation. 2 of my team are struggling with the lack of social contract. One lives alone, the other with a partner. Another 4 of them are parents going insane with young kids out of childcare or school completely disrupting their day, and with them needing to take leave or work till midnight to make up the lost time.

I'd imagine it comes down to how confident you can be of the timing of that vaccine.... Apparently the previous record for vaccine development was polio, in the 1960 's in 4 years.

Even if you subscribe to the theory that they hugely underreported the initial deaths, which has 33k dead not 3k. And using a death rate of 1% that makes 3.3m cases, but is that the lie we are talking about? Or are we suggesting the lie is happening now? Surely will be hard to keep a lid on such a lie as outbreaks trends to become noticeable

Seriously how in the fuck did China go from having 100k cases to having zero when everyone else is not even coming close to replicating that level of success?

Shit just got real

I am starting to feel the Sweden approach is where we will all end up in trying to limit the spread.

I'm a jumble of thoughts on this subject. For sure I'm grateful to Sweden for doing what they've done, as one way or another we will all learn alot from the outlier approaches like sweden and new Zealand. However Sweden has become such a controversial topic you struggle to get fair representation on how things are going there, not only in Covid stats but in terms of their levels of economic performance, and what the reality is on the ground floor... You could have the impression Sweden is just carrying on with business as usual however I'm willing to bet their retail businesses which are shuttered in other nations will likely be suffering significantly, and that whilst things may not be officially banned I'll bet people have still radically changed their behaviour. With regard to chicken pox parties I think that absolutely that becomes the way to go. Infect as many people who are young, healthy and highly likely to survive... You've gotta introduce that bias otherwise reaching herd immunity seems pointless... If everyone needs to catch it to get herd immunity who is left to benefit from the protection of forget spread?

That would be consistent with an infection mortality rate of 0.8 to 1.1%, which from recollection was similar to the antibody test in New York. You wonder though, if thats a reasonable ball park mortality figure for a first world country with a non collapsed healthcare system, what could that death rate be if ten times more people were infected at once and there just weren't nearly enough ventilators... Does it double?

Its not gonna be a conspiracy where healthcare workers are conspiring to gerrymander the cause of deaths to Covid18. That is not reality. Healthcare workers are just normal people with hard jobs. Nobody can refute your friend of a friend's account without more info, but there's a few things possible... 1. COVID is a severe respiratory infection, which hospitalizes many and is particularly lethal for people with preexisting conditions. High blood pressure, diabetes, asthma etc. If you have high blood pressure, get a severe case of COVID, are hospitalised, on a ventilator and ultimately your heart gives out first, is that complete fabrication and bullshit if that death is recorded as a COVID death? I'd suggest not. Because ultimately what the health services are trying to get a handle on and build an accurate data set is how many people are dying because of COVID, that wouldn't otherwise have died. Recording that data accurately will give accurate data to then be able to gauge the potential impact if the virus ripped through the community en masse. 2. Possibly there is a two tier system for moving bodies out through the hospital system due to the temporary arrangements in place to manage the Covid situation. It may actually be that a COVID body gets out faster. If someone said the only way to get the body out quicker is if they died of COVID that could be a true statement said with grim humour, or an outrageously dumb serious suggestion. Or its evidence of a global conspiracy which a fuck ton of good honest healthcare workers would need to be in on. Your Sweden issue. It's about an eighth the size of the UK. It's biggest city a tenth the size of London. It's one of the least densely populated countries in Europe (see first image). Those things determine the rate of spread along with the usual factors like level of lockdown etc. Bottom line the best basis for comparison to Sweden is with other Scandinavian countries which have adopted lockdown arrangements more aligned with the rest of Europe. See image 2 for that.

That's why I J-walk frequently when in the city.

I find those crazy spiels intriguing. The mindset of the conspiracy theorist, looking for neat ways to connect every dot, but using such flawed logic. Some conspiracies are actually plausible, or at least cloaked in supporting information to the point of appearing reasonable. But they are still held together by fundamental flaws such as the overall plot of the plotters being literally the most overly elaborate and obscure way of achieving their aims. And the fact the inferred schemes would imply such huge networks of people who would need to be in on it. A guy I used to work with, highly experienced senior structural engineer, is an avid believer in a 9/11 conspiracy, and promotes his cause, "architects and engineers for 9/11 truth", where a group of professionals in the field of structural engineering or architecture are completely convinced, from detailed study of the structures and the footage of the towers coming down, that the planes on their own would not have been able to cause the towers, and that additional explosives would have been required to produce such a precision drop.

What's he done now?

Imagine being Bill Gates right now. You spend 30 years of your life and $50 billion of your own dollars supporting humanitarian causes. You directly save hundreds of thousands of lives in South East Asia by providing anti malaria netting to half of a continent, you drop infant mortality rates throughout the entire developing world by funding vaccine programs including vaccinating 40,000,000 children for polio, and, amongst a plethora of philanthropic endeavors, you fund free educational platforms like Khan Academy so people can have free access to high quality education. Then after donating half of your wealth to charity and pledging 90% of the remainder to charity in your will.. Arguably doing more to better life on earth for humanity than any other human being to ever live. You then hop on the internet only to find a million scientifically illiterate fucking imbeciles that are using the very computers you pretty much invented in the first place to call you a child murdering arch villian antichrist because they watched a YouTube video made by some other yokel with the comprehension of a fucking potato. And the Reply Event 201 = Gates ID2020 = Gates Coronavirus patent = Gates Covid vaccine = Gates WHO/NIAID/CDC/UN funding = Gates Fauci/Birx/Tedros funding = Gates New Economy based on Human Activity (060606) = Gates Hypothesize a simulated global outbreak, required steps, various phases, overall timeline and expected outcomes (Rockefeller - Lock Step, 2010). -Create a very contagious but super low mortality rate virus to fit the needed plan (SARS/HIV hybrid research strain created at Fort Detrick class 4 lab from 2008-2013 as part of a research project to find out why coronavirus's spread like wildfire in bats but have an extremely hard time infecting humans (hence the 4 HIV inserts, aka the missing key to infect the human ACE-2 receptor) -Create a weaponized version of the virus with a much higher mortality rate as a "BACKUP plan" ready to be released in phase 3 BUT ONLY IF NEEDED (SARS/HIV/MERS weaponized tribrid strain created at Fort Detrick class 4 lab in 2015) -Transport the research strain to a different class 4 lab (National Microbiology Lab in Winnipeg Canada) and have it stolen and smuggled out by China (Shi Zhengli) on purpose and taken to China's only class 4 lab (Wuhan Institute of Virology in Wuhan China) for added plausible deniability and to help cement the wanted BACKUP public script as something to fall back on IF needed (primary script being its natural, backup script being that China created it and released it by accident) -Fund all the talking heads (Fauci/Birx/Tedros...) and agencies (WHO/NIAID/CDC/UN...) that would be involved with pandemic response prior to the planned release of the research strain to control the wanted script throughout the operation. -Create and fund the vaccination development and roll-out plan so its capable of being rolled out on a global scale (Gates - Decade of Vaccines: Global Vaccine Action Plan, 2010-2020) -Create and fund the vaccination verification/certification protocols (Digital ID) to enforce/confirm the vaccination program after the mandatory roll-out is enacted (Gates - ID2020) -Simulate the Lock Step hypothesis just prior to the planned research strain release using a real-world exercise as a final wargame to determine expected response/timelines/outcomes (Gates - Event 201, Oct 2019) -Release the research strain at the Wuhan Institute of Virology itself and then blame it's released on a natural scapegoat as the wanted primary script (the Wuhan wet market, Nov 2019) -Downplay the human-to-human transmission for as long as possible to allow the research strain to spread on a global scale before any country can lockdown/respond to avoid initial infection -Once a country has seed infection in place, lockdown incoming/outgoing travel but keep the transmission within the country spreading for as long as possible -Once enough people in a country/region are infected, enact forced quarantines/isolation for that area and expand the lockdown regions slowly over time. -Over-hype the mortality rate by tying the research strain to deaths that have little to nothing to do with the actual virus to keep the fear and compliance at a maximum (if anyone dies for ANY reason and is found they have COVID consider it a COVID death & if anyone is thought to of MAYBE had symptoms of COVID to assume they have COVID and consider it a COVID death). -Keep the public quarantined for as long as possible to destroy the regions economy, create civil unrest, breakdown the supply chain, and cause the start of mass food shortages, as well as cause peoples immune system to weaken due to lack of interaction with other people/bacteria (the outside world... aka the things that keeps our immune system alert and active). -Downplay and attack any potential "treatments" and continue to echo that only a "cure" is viable to fight this virus (aka a vaccine) -Continue to drag out the quarantine over and over and over again (in 2 week intervals) causing more and more people to eventually stand up and protest/defy them. -Eventually end the phase 1 quarantine once they get enough public push-back (~June 2020), and publicly state that they still think it's "too early" to end the isolation but are going to do it anyways. -Once the public go "back to normal" wait a few weeks and then continue to over-hype the research strain mortality rate (~Aug-Sept 2020), and combine it with the increase in deaths due to people dying from standard illnesses at a higher rate then normal due to having highly weakened immune systems from months of being in isolation, to help further "pad" the mortality rate and hype the upcoming phase 2 lockdown. -Eventually enact phase 2 quarantines (~Oct-Nov 2020) on a even more extreme level and blame the protesters (mostly people who don't trust their government already) for the cause of the "larger" 2nd wave (we told you so, it was too early, this is all your fault cause you needed a hair cut, your freedoms have consequences...). -Enforce the phase 2 quarantines at a much more extreme level, increasing the penalty for defiance (replace fines with jail time), deem ALL travel as non-essential, increase checkpoints (including military assistance), increase tracking/tracing of the population (mandatory apps), take over control of food/gas (large scale shortages) so that people can only get access to essential products/services if they are FIRST given permission. -Keep the phase 2 lockdown in place for a much longer period of time then the phase 1 lockdown, continuing to destroy the global economy, further degrade the supply chain, and further amplify the food shortages, and alike. -Quell any public outrage using extreme actions/force and make anyone who defy's them appear as public enemy #1 to those who are willing to submit. -After a rather long phase 2 lockdown (6+ months), roll-out the vaccination program + vaccine certification and make it mandatory for everyone (giving priority access to those that submitted from the start), and have those that are for it attack those that are against it saying they are a threat and the cause of all the problems (we can't go back to normal until EVERYONE takes the vaccine... people defying them are hurting our way of life and therefore are the enemy). -If the majority of people go along with the agenda then let those people enter the new system (new normal) while limiting the minority that defy the agenda's ability to work/travel/live. -If the majority of people go against the agenda then release the weaponized SARS/HIV/MERS tribrid strain as phase 3, a virus with a 30%+ mortality rate as a final scare to push the minority to quickly become the majority and give a final "we told you so" to those that didn't listen. -Enact the new economy model (Microsoft patent 060606 - Cryptocurrency System Using Body Activity Data) which is based on human behavior and willingness to submit (tweaked version of Black Mirror's "Fifteen Million Merits") using food/water/shelter and other essentials as a weapon of enforcement of the new economic system. Basically do what we want and get rewarded (gain credits/score and gain more access to things you need to survive) or go against what we want and get penalized (lose credits/score and lose access to things you need to survive). ...Welcome to the New World Order.. And I would like to add that if anyone thinks that this isn't true then check out parts of China, they already have the cryptocurrency system in place in certain areas.."

There's been a couple of decent articles in the Washington Post analysing the excess mortality rate. That being a measure of total deaths within the population above any typical/average pattern for the time of year. This would pick up that type of additional cause of death. https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/2020/05/02/excess-deaths-during-covid-19/?arc404=true