SirBalon

That's how desperate and how un-British the whole thing is right now. So little has been made of what occurred over the past week and how easy it all was due to Spain saying they'd boycott the summit and veto the agreement (coupled with France, although with France they've been the main culprits of the difficulties in any agreement over the past year).

Considering the three largest constituency majorities in the UK that voted for leave (from what I'm to believe), they had the lowest amount of immigrants residing within their council but yet when quizzed recently on the reasons as to why they voted in the way they did, the residing factor was immigration and then sovereignty. One of those constituencies only had one foreign family living there that owned a local mini supermarket. Both immigration and sovereignty have been proved to not to enter into any of the real issues that have ever affected this country... Infact the stats show that we've had more immigration coming in from outside the EU in the past 25 years and where government benefit handouts are concerned immigrants from either the EU or outside the EU territory are extremely low, much lower than native benefit users. We could go on and on and on with all the false propaganda fed to us over the years. Even the low wages have nothing to do with immigrants being prepared to take less because the lack of pay rises compared to inflation goes further back than the EU accord and actually has more to do with the death of unions (syndicates). All of this and more, much much more is the bullshit that was fed to us. We can start by going back the the lady that actually started it all with an ideal based on a future EU which was fully supported and part of the creation of it all... Mrs Thatcher and what then subsequently ruined the working classes by privatising and selling it all. blah blah blah blah sovereignty, dirty immigrants, we don't want to be ruled, they're gonna bend our bananas. Blah blah meeeeh, meeeeeh, maaaah, drivel drivel drivel I'm proud to be Brithsh... Get outa here and DON'T HAVE CHILDREN PLEEEEASE!

It has shifted, but not enough (if the prediction polls are to be believed, they've got it wrong so many times in recent future) to make it a resounding massive shift although there apparently is a shift into the remain camp, a decent one to win with a larger (not massive) difference to the original referendum. But let me ask you something where shifting opinions are concerned... Do Christians, Jews, Muslims etc... believe in a God? How do you shift an opinion on THAT for the real believers? Do you get where I've gone with that question? This sort of opinion can only shift so much mate.

Immigration was one of the major weapons used by the leave campaign with sovereignty legitimising and surrounding like a comfort blanket the global picture for those that were pasting propaganda to divorce the EU. Like with everything that's marketed in a consumerist world, the mechanics envolving the Brexit referendum was managed in the same manner. Bulletpoint issues were served to an ignorant public (I repeat, the government and politicians ranging day and wide from all spectrums were in the same ignorant camp) to condition those that had already been conditioned for quite some time. Add to the equation those that were extremely unsure (myself in that group) of what was going on and without the time or the tools to research something so detrimental, then we have a wide enough picture of what occurred. The whole campaign was rotten from the start in both camps but we are now also seeing that the leave campaign was even illegally funded with dirty tricks being used as with the Aaron Banks funding of the leave campaign with £8m that is under investigation. Infact it was brought to the attention of the government during the campaigning for Brexit pre-referendum day that there were dodgy shenanigans going on but the then Home Secretary Theresa May cancelled any investigation at the time. https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/nov/02/arron-banks-inquiry-why-is-8m-leaveeu-funding-under-review https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/nov/01/arron-banks-referred-to-agency-over-suspected-offences-in-brexit-campaign People can paint seemingly pretty patterns using complexed arguments that leave others dizzy with conjecture and confusion which in effect are like revolving doors with no info or argument at all and explain nothing just simply masking an underlying protection of an ideal they would rather unconformingly go to bed with rather than be part of a public outrage at years of total and utter corruption of people's thought process. It's like when people say "I'm proud to be British" like that's something to take into account on any wider scope of rational argument. What the hell does that mean? How is that a personal achievement and are you in some way saying that this statement is superior to (for example) someone saying "I'm proud to be French" across a patch of water called the English Channel. What have you achieved and what is that based on to use that as a valid statement on a finalisation of an ignorant argument. It's that type of populism, that type of sentiment, that type of nationalism that has been used by those in the media to condition the underdeveloped and uneducated minds of those that were already bred as bigots.. I want to add that they are all innocent! All of those that think in that manner aren't to blame for everything that's occurred and has resulted in this utter stupidity.

Nothing will happen because nothing happened last time they messed around with the Ukraine. Nothing happened to the American journalist that was massacred by the Saudi Arabian royal family with Trump even letting them off. Don't worry... The status quo will remain with some governments pretending to be shocked and astounded at Russia's anarchism.

And for anyone that has finally understood the mess we will be putting our country in with Brexit, then of course another referendum is required and of course you won't need a deciding one because the facts are now clearer (except for those that still believe in unicorns and continue to prefer to drive their car into the fire) and a more valid decision can be respected now. Plus, if remaining wins, then we all (all as in normal people) know the right decision has won and we can carry on living in our imperfect world.

The politicians are to blame because they didn't have a clue on what Brexit meant. That much is clear and we've even had shocking comments coming from MPs and Cabinet Ministers stating this exact thing in the past months. Wasn't it bumbling Boris Johnson who said "we can have our cake and eat it" with that excruciatingly annoying voice he has? Really? FOOL! As for the public having to make themselves aware of what they were voting for... Bloody hell! Think about it... There are just over 66 million people in the UK (I hope I've got that right) and the GOVERNMENT gave the vote to all of them (of course they did, there was no other way, it's a democracy and EVERYONE is entitled to vote "except for those in prison")... Shall I or shan't I go into the probable validation of the capabilities for the whole of the U.K. to vote on something as detrimental as this? I won't because all sorts of connotations could be construed and drawn up on my ramblings. This isn't even all of it, but a fair bit and possibly the most important parts regarding divorcing the EU, but the FT (Financial Times) printed a lot of it not too long ago and if anyone says that they expected every UK citizen to read through it, understand it, associate a separation and its consequences to it before making a valid decision on where to scribble an 'X' on poling day... Hmmmm... https://ig.ft.com/brexit-treaty-database/

People have to appreciate that nobody knew what they were voting for in the referendum and that is the basis for a call for a second referendum. It can have various options like whether or not they accept Mrs May's agreement with the EU,, whether or not to go for total and utter death in the shape of leaving with no deal or whether or not we should scrap everything now that we are all more aware of what this was all about and that NOTHING absolutely NOTHING is going to be better than being in the EU. How can a vote (the referendum) be valid on the basis of a lack of knowledge of what people were voting for? The politicians themselves didn't know as has been seen.

Mate... You're never going to win! People still think you can drive a car into the fire while being doused in petrol. You can tell them all you like that they should stop believing he who is telling them you can and that you came to your senses in the end, but they will still believe that Fairyland lies in and beyond that viscous fire you're driving straight for.

It's nothing to do about sovereignty mate because we always had sovereignty. But I get it due to the fact there's still a load of gammons believing in unicorns. Trust me, Corbyn isn't getting in unless this deal is voted through. If it isn't voted through then there are two options... One option is for a no deal Brexit and destroy the country and the second one is a substantial movement to get another referendum which would be more likely than ever even thought still iffy... But all the same with much better odds than beforehand.

If the deal isn’t accepted by the commons, you’ll find many Labour voters (those that don’t treat politics like football support) will vote conservative.

Do you have a passport or ID card from an EU member state? I say this with the belief that you were born in the UK, have a UK passport and have no claim to origins from outside the UK. Because if you have any of the former, then you will be free to move where you like within the EU and also enjoy the freedom to enter your country of birth if it is indeed within the UK.

May had Brexiteers in her cabinet and they stabbed her in the back. Looking out for their future careers, so I’m not surprised she’s trying a different method. They’re all incompetent anyhow.

That can actually be used as an analogy mate... You told your grandson that fairies exist and that they would leave a gift in exchange for his tooth. But it was yourselves that done this because fairies don't exist. I wasn't clued up at all on voting and done what every citizen tends to do which is to use the campaigning to make a choice as those that campaign have the responsibility to offer us the information so as to make the decision that best befits our reasoning. They lied! They lied on a large scale and what's left over (partition that as you will) was because they had as much knowledge of the situation they were leading their country into as you or I did. Dont believe the rhetoric mate! The truth, the real facts are that we made a terrible mistake. There were no enemies, they were fabricated! Check the ridiculous newspaper headlines for over 20 years on supposed EU rules they wanted to impose on us (not even included are the anti-immigration headlines which have been excluded and were many) which were all lies!

Another one that believes in unicorns or is unfortunately led down the garden path... Did you read my post mate? That bit I quoted from myself is Mr (bumbling fool) Boris Johnson. The conditioning and making people believe lies is why we're in this mess.

Not every European thinks Brexit is the problem with the UK. Message in there...

Well the deal Mrs May has created and had accepted is exactly that, your BINO. The EU stays in practically total control of the UK but we maintain some of the important things we need so as to not totally collapse as a nation... She's actually done pretty well although the press will roast her and of course, it doesn't really make anyone happy for obvious reasons, neither Remainers and of course Leavers. But, as I said further up, this deal she's mustered does actually represent the result of the Brexit Referendum which finished 51.9% for Leave and 48.1% for Remain... The Leavers consistently go on about things like a Hard Brexit with No Deal by displaying their total hatred of the EU (I really do want to take it further than just calling it hatred of the EU with many leavers) and trying to dictate a pathway for Britain into the abyss by severing all ties with the EU. But of course as one can see, the result chops the country almost in half because there was no whitewash for this dream of "Britain is an island and we don't want anybody unless we want somebody"... Plus many that voted Leave like myself didn't want that sort of Brexit and didn't base it solely on wanting out of Freedom of Movement.. In other words not every Brexiter was anti emigration or had some hatred of people that spoke a different language, because the Brown People coming over scenario must surely be untrue as they do know that Brown People come from elsewhere and not Europe. As you can imagine mate, it's a very complexed situation and no matter what happens, nobody is going to be happy. Nobody except for those that love to observe chaos and self inflicting disaster. I have to say that I should have myself checked out psychologically because I've thoroughly enjoyed the Donald Trump victory and tenure in the US so far because of how ridiculous it all is... Mostly finding it comical than shocking. So maybe my Brexit vote didn't have any weird conditions and it was a secret side of my sorry brain that loves to observe chaotic moments that are self inflicted.

These are 20 years worth of newspaper headlines drawn up on the front pages of Britain's newspapers. A blogger called Tom Pride done the hard work of drawing them up and here we see just a decent proportion of the lies and myths fed to many innocent people everyday and in some cases fed to people that just need an enemy to exist. I've copied and pasted from his blog... I have to say that most of the headlines are hilarious and it beggars belief how anyone could even begin to believe them. Just a a few words from myself before I paste the headlines... All this out there for so long trying to persuade us that somehow the Europeans, the EU were and are our enemies. It's sad really because away from the conditioning or just the blatant search for a method to sell more newspapers, this is in actual fact a failure of journalism, a failure of British journalism in this case (not saying journalism isn't bad elsewhere, but this is serious). I'd like to believe that the reason behind the front pages for all of two decades wasn't some evil form of conditioning for any particular reason much less a possible referendum 18 years later... I doubt there are real soothsayers in Fleet Street... Just a method to sell newspapers because unfortunately there is a fair share of the populous on this island that want to believe these things and pay to consume those lies. But then you have someone like Boris Johnson, a politician, a man that has been part of the cabinet of the UK's government, a mayor of one of the most important cities on the planet and with the responsibility given to him by the people of this country to at least not lie, be honest and offer the best for the country... You have this disgusting excuse for a man (I still have reservations on whether or not he is in actual fact of the same species as me) also acting part time as a journalist, having the opportunity to write his columns on one of Britain's most established newspapers. Read this next bit, it's important because here is a man that resigned from his job leaving his Prime Minister in limbo and undermining her best efforts to provide an impossible task... In the middle of June 2016 this man wrote TWO COLUMNS (not one, but two) for that particular day's edition. One column for why he was going for remain and one why he was going to opt for the leave the EU option. Then he sat there thinking "What's best for my career?" And he decided to tell everyone why he would and we should all vote to leave. This is the type of deceptive man he is and he isn't alone in that party (we can all muster the names). He has spent 30 years using these same methods to rise within politics and within his party. This type of conjuring trick, this deception and this deceit... With this he's seen himself grow fat on it (there not speaking about his obvious repulsive physical appearance and I'm not talking size)... While we the people were being denied knowledge and understanding on all these important issues. A personal gain for a selfish self serving individual. This is why we've ended up in such a mess and with this final statement I'm not just placing the blame at the feet of such a ridiculous individual because our politics have been full of them and we can all cite lies and falsehoods from both sides of the spectrum in British politics over the years in all different spheres and terrible decisions. Here I leave you the method in which conditioning is sort via the all powerful media... Over to Tom Pride's hard work publishing other's curious and questionable work revolving lies. Forget about Russian meddling or US companies pushing fake and ‘dark’ news on the internet to influence the Brexit vote. Fake news to influence the UK public to vote for Brexit has mostly come from our very own so-called professional journalists right here in the UK. Here’s a list of fake news by the UK press over the last 20 years. Every single story here has been debunked as fake news. It’s hard to pick just one but my personal favourites are ‘Euronotes cause impotence‘ by the Daily Mail and ‘EU puts speed limit on children’s roundabouts‘ from the always entertaining Daily Express. Read through the list and vote for your own ‘favourite’ in the comments section below – the most popular will win a ‘prize’for ‘Most Ridiculous EU Fake News’. Enjoy (or maybe despair): EC regulations to ban playgrounds – Daily Express Rolling acres outlawed by Brussels – The Telegraph EU to scrap British exams – Sunday Express Obscure EU law halting the sale of English oak seeds – Mail on Sunday EU may try to ban sweet and toy ads – The Times EU to tell British farmers what they can grow – Daily Mail EU ‘Bans Boozing’ – Daily Star Light ale to be forced to change its name by Eurocrats – Daily Mail EU fanatics to be forced to sing dire anthem about EU ‘Motherland’ – The Sun British apple trees facing chop by EU – The Times EC plan to ban noisy toys – Sunday People EU to ban bagpipes and trapeze artists – The Sun Children to be banned from blowing up balloons, under EU safety rules – Daily Telegraph Straight cucumbers – The Sun Curved bananas banned by Brussels bureaucrats – The Sun, Daily Mail, Daily Express Brussels bans barmaids from showing cleavage – The Sun, Daily Telegraph Rumpole’s wig to scrapped by EU – Mail on Sunday Church bells silenced by fear of EU law – Daily Telegraph Motorists to be charged to drive in city centres under EU plans – Daily Telegraph EU to stop binge drinking by slapping extra tax on our booze – The Sun Brandy butter to be renamed ‘brandy spreadable fat’ – The European British loaf of bread under threat from EU – Daily Mail Truckers face EU ban on fry-ups – The Sun EU to ban Union Flag from British meat packs – Daily Express EU seeks to outlaw 60 dog breeds – Europa News Agency Double-decker buses to be banned – Daily Telegraph EU bans eating competition cakes – Timesonline Now EU officials want control of your CANDLES – Daily Express 21-gun salutes are just too loud, Brussels tells the Royal Artillery – Mail on Sunday Brussels threatens charity shops and car boot sales – Daily Mail Plot to axe British number plates for standardised EU design – Daily Express Women to be asked intimate details about sex lives in planned EU census – Daily Express British cheese faces extinction under EU rules – PA News EU meddlers ban kids on milk rounds – The Sun, The Telegraph British chocolate to be renamed ‘vegelate’ under EU rules – Daily Mail EU to ban church bells – Daily Telegraph British film producers warn of new EU threat to industry – The Independent Kilts to be branded womenswear by EU – Daily Record EU to ban double decker buses – Daily Mail Cod to be renamed ‘Gadus’ thanks to EU – Daily Mail Brussels to restrict drinking habits of Britain’s coffee lovers – Daily Express EU responsible for your hay fever – Daily Mail, The Times Condom dimensions to be harmonised – Independent on Sunday EU wants to BAN your photos of the London Eye – Daily Express Corgis to be banned by EU – Daily Mail EU forcing cows to wear nappies – Daily Mail Eurocrats to ban crayons and colouring pencils – The Sun Smoky bacon crisps face EU ban – Sunday Times EU outlaws teeth whitening products – Daily Mail Domain names – ‘.uk’ to be replaced by ‘.eu’ – Daily Mail Brussels to ban HGV drivers from wearing glasses – The Times New eggs cannot be called eggs – Daily Mail EU to ban selling eggs by the dozen – Daily Mail UK to be forced to adopt continental two pin plug – Daily Star, Daily Mail EU targets traditional Sunday roast – Sun on Sunday English Channel to be re-named ‘Anglo-French Pond’ – Daily Mail Brussels to force EU flag on England shirts – Daily Mail EU orders farmers to give toys to pigs – The Times Firemen’s poles outlawed by EU – Daily Mail Euro ban on food waste means swans cannot be fed – The Observer Noise regulations to force football goers to wear earplugs – The Sun Traditional Irish funeral under threat from EU – Daily Telegraph, The Times EU to ban high-heel shoes for hairdressers – Daily Express Commission to force fishermen to wear hairnets – Daily Telegraph Brussels to ban herbal cures – Daily Express Bureaucrats declare Britain is “not an island”– the Guardian EU bid to ban life sentences for murderers – Daily Express New EU map makes Kent part of France – Sunday Telegraph EU tells Welsh how to grow their leeks – The Times EU to ban lollipop ladies’ sticks – News of the World EU plot to rename Trafalgar Square & Waterloo station – Daily Express UK milk ‘pinta’ threatened by Brussels – The Sun EU bans ‘mince’ pies – Daily Mail Eurocrats say Santa must be a woman – The Sun Now EU crackpots demand gypsy MPs – Daily Express Brussels to outlaw mushy peas – The Sun, Daily Mail, Telegraph, Times Brussels says shellfish must be given rest breaks on journeys – The Times Pets must be pressure cooked after death – Sunday Telegraph EU puts speed limit on children’s roundabouts – Daily Express 2-for-1 bargains to be scrapped by EU – Daily Mirror EU madness: chat up bar girl and pub will be fined – Daily Star Queen to be forced to get her own tea by EU – The Sun EU tells women to hand in worn-out sex toys – The Sun British rhubarb to be straight – The Sun EU to ban rocking horses – The Sun Scotch whisky rebranded a dangerous chemical by EU – Daily Telegraph Brussels ban on pints of shandy – The Times “High up” signs to be put on mountains – BBC Euronotes cause impotence – Daily Mail EU to ban under 16-year-olds from using Facebook – Daily Mail Strawberries must be oval – The Sun EU orders swings to be pulled down – Daily Express Tea bags banned from being recycled – BBC British lav to be replaced with Euro-loo – The Sun Unwanted Valentine’s cards to be defined as sexual harrasment – Daily Telegraph Bosses to be told what colour carpets to buy by EU – Daily Star EU says British yoghurt to be renamed ‘Fermented Milk Pudding’ – Sunday Mirror EU to ban zipper trousers – The Sun

The way I see it, Theresa May’s Chequers deal which has apparently been aproved by the EU shows the referendum vote’s partioned result of almost half half. There’s a bit for everyone but without the best deal which was to be in the EU itself and have power to have a say.

People continue to believe in the existence of unicorns and that part will never change. We were all lied to but many of those lies weren't even proper ones because nobody knew what the implications of leaving were until now and even now it's not all that clear because as strange as it may seem it's actually worse than the worse case scenario. I laugh at the fact Farage has made sure his sons have freedom of movement within Europe for their future. My child and possible future children will also have this with dual and triple nationality. I have a British and Spanish Passport which means swapping at arrivals wherever I go... But that's just the mere movement part with my and my family's legal Reigate to work and move within this continent. My lament is how people have voted to be poorer because they were told unicorns exist.

Esther de Lange (Dutch MEP) putting Nigel Farage (Plonker) to rights! Is there any way we can ship in some Dutch Politicians to take over our own before freedom of movement is banned in the UK?

So it was a stab at the government and the general state of British politics? If that's the case then the sarcastic ironic quirk is understandable but anything else is believing in unicorns.

What's strong and stable?