6666 1,080 Posted April 24, 2021 Share Posted April 24, 2021 39 minutes ago, ScoRoss said: How is qualification, based on a clubs previous performance guaranteed? Unless you are deliberately missing the entire point? Seems like you want guaranteed qualification, no matter what... I'm the one saying the name of the club doesn't matter. Do you think the rules should be changed because West Ham are doing well? You can't say certain leagues can have a certain number of spots based on what clubs are taking up what spots. You can't decide the format after the leagues have finished. People qualify through the league and finishing 4th in the Premier League is a bigger indication of quality than winning the Eredivisie because there aren't many good teams in that league. Of course a team that wins a shit league can prove that they're better than the reputation of their league and that's great but them being in shit league still decides their route into the competition. It's also not a fixed system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScoRoss 729 Posted April 24, 2021 Share Posted April 24, 2021 10 minutes ago, 6666 said: I'm the one saying the name of the club doesn't matter. Do you think the rules should be changed because West Ham are doing well? You can't say certain leagues can have a certain number of spots based on what clubs are taking up what spots. You can't decide the format after the leagues have finished. People qualify through the league and finishing 4th in the Premier League is a bigger indication of quality than winning the Eredivisie because there aren't many good teams in that league. Of course a team that wins a shit league can prove that they're better than the reputation of their league and that's great but them being in shit league still decides their route into the competition. It's also not a fixed system. I'm using West Ham as an example. People have wanted this changed for years, the major leagues have just had an awakening in the last week to what the rest of us have known for a long time. I'm saying that guaranteeing spots for non Champions over other clubs is a good way to guarantee a monopoly by the larger leagues and then wondering why others can't compete. Copenhagen have proposed a system which would seed clubs based on their own merits rather than based on their leagues. So it's not impossible as suggested. https://onefootball.com/en/news/champions-league-revamp-could-harm-teams-from-europes-top-leagues-29258259?variable=20200225 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny 1,772 Posted April 24, 2021 Share Posted April 24, 2021 5 hours ago, 6666 said: The best performing clubs in Europe getting the most money is how competition works. Yes and that is what has created a monopoly for a select group of clubs in the Champions League, it is why in t he last 20 years there have been 9 different winners and in the 20 before that were was 15. Winning silverware shouldn’t guarantee you a shit tonne of money to take into the competition the season after, consistently competing in the Champions League should create a wealth gap in your domestic league, that is how you stifle competition. The current model has literally created the need for a Super League, the current model is the inspiration for the Super League, it is simply one rung below a super league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Käiser 98 Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 A league system containing 36 teams but clubs only play 10 other teams. how will this be determined and how will this be fair? comparing clubs based on their records against different opponents/schedules? Doesn’t seem right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan 15,198 Posted May 10 Share Posted May 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny 1,772 Posted May 10 Share Posted May 10 28 minutes ago, Stan said: I don’t get this at all. Just 2 spots? Or two extra spots on top of 2 spots already? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucas 3,186 Posted May 10 Share Posted May 10 (edited) 2 hours ago, Danny said: I don’t get this at all. Just 2 spots? Or two extra spots on top of 2 spots already? 2 extra spots. For example, if it was applied this season, England would get an extra spot (So 5th would qualify) and the Netherlands would also (So 3rd qualifies) as those are the countries with the highest coefficients in this campaign. It's just getting worse and worse. The new format is made primarily with the aim of having the biggest 16 teams constantly through, lessening the chances of your Ajax's, Villarreal's etc making the runs they have in recent years. Edited May 10 by Lucas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Palace Fan 2,934 Posted May 12 Share Posted May 12 That method sounds far better than what was previously touted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScoRoss 729 Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 After the dismiss of the Super League, now was the time for UEFA to take back some spots from the bigger leagues. Or at least take back some automatic places from them. Instead, they do this shite and give what would be 5 automatic places to one country. Horrific. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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