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Champions League Changes Set to be Confirmed from 2024


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39 minutes ago, ScoRoss said:

How is qualification, based on a clubs previous performance guaranteed? Unless you are deliberately missing the entire point?

Seems like you want guaranteed qualification, no matter what...

I'm the one saying the name of the club doesn't matter. Do you think the rules should be changed because West Ham are doing well? xD You can't say certain leagues can have a certain number of spots based on what clubs are taking up what spots. You can't decide the format after the leagues have finished.

People qualify through the league and finishing 4th in the Premier League is a bigger indication of quality than winning the Eredivisie because there aren't many good teams in that league. Of course a team that wins a shit league can prove that they're better than the reputation of their league and that's great but them being in shit league still decides their route into the competition. It's also not a fixed system.

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10 minutes ago, 6666 said:

I'm the one saying the name of the club doesn't matter. Do you think the rules should be changed because West Ham are doing well? xD You can't say certain leagues can have a certain number of spots based on what clubs are taking up what spots. You can't decide the format after the leagues have finished.

People qualify through the league and finishing 4th in the Premier League is a bigger indication of quality than winning the Eredivisie because there aren't many good teams in that league. Of course a team that wins a shit league can prove that they're better than the reputation of their league and that's great but them being in shit league still decides their route into the competition. It's also not a fixed system.

I'm using West Ham as an example. People have wanted this changed for years, the major leagues have just had an awakening in the last week to what the rest of us have known for a long time.

I'm saying that guaranteeing spots for non Champions over other clubs is a good way to guarantee a monopoly by the larger leagues and then wondering why others can't compete.

Copenhagen have proposed a system which would seed clubs based on their own merits rather than based on their leagues. So it's not impossible as suggested.

https://onefootball.com/en/news/champions-league-revamp-could-harm-teams-from-europes-top-leagues-29258259?variable=20200225

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5 hours ago, 6666 said:

The best performing clubs in Europe getting the most money is how competition works.

Yes and that is what has created a monopoly for a select group of clubs in the Champions League, it is why in t  he last 20 years there have been 9 different winners and in the 20 before that were was 15.

Winning silverware shouldn’t guarantee you a shit tonne of money to take into the competition the season after, consistently competing in the Champions League should create a wealth gap in your domestic league, that is how you stifle competition.

The current model has literally created the need for a Super League, the current model is the inspiration for the Super League, it is simply one rung below a super league.

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2 hours ago, Danny said:

I don’t get this at all. Just 2 spots? Or two extra spots on top of 2 spots already?

2 extra spots.

For example, if it was applied this season, England would get an extra spot (So 5th would qualify) and the Netherlands would also (So 3rd qualifies) as those are the countries with the highest coefficients in this campaign.

It's just getting worse and worse. The new format is made primarily with the aim of having the biggest 16 teams constantly through, lessening the chances of your Ajax's, Villarreal's etc making the runs they have in recent years.

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After the dismiss of the Super League, now was the time for UEFA to take back some spots from the bigger leagues. Or at least take back some automatic places from them.

Instead, they do this shite and give what would be 5 automatic places to one country. Horrific.

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With the latest restructuring of the CL, once again I am angry that the CL Isn’t just for league champions.I know it will never return to this format but I think it should given the existence of the Europa and the Conference or whatever it is called.

https://www.espn.com/soccer/uefa-champions-league/story/4663021/champions-league-revamp-how-the-competition-will-work-from-2024-25

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Well apparently fixture congestion is a real concern for the big clubs so I presume without reading the article they've replaced the Group Stage with an extra Knockout Round to streamline the process of reducing 32 teams to 16 over two legs instead of six group games. No? Another year of "let's abolish the League Cup at the expense of the bottom 86 teams in the Football League just so a few Man City players get a bit less tired around February" it is then.

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Clubs keen to explore Champions League games outside Europe

This week brings the latest meeting of UEFA’s executive committee on the Croatian island of Hvar, before the general assembly of the European Club Association (ECA) in Istanbul later in the week, writes Adam Crafton.

The ECA represents the interests of clubs that regularly compete in European football’s major competitions, such as UEFA’s Champions League. At these conferences, executives come together to explore ways in which they can grow the sport and drive revenues.

The Athletic has learnt that one option favoured by some of the most powerful club executives in European football involves taking Champions League games outside of the continent to make meaningful games more accessible to the clubs’ global fanbases.

The Paris Saint-Germain president Nasser Al-Khelaifi, who also chairs the ECA and is a member of UEFA’s executive committee, is among those supportive of such discussions, with leading club executives open to fixtures taking place in major markets such as the US, China or the Middle East.

It remains only an idea rather than policy, and any moves to take the competition abroad would likely be met with opposition from fans in Europe. However, sources close to the discussions said initial steps would surround early group games rather than high-stakes knockout matches.

Another option to take outside of Europe may be the Super Cup — the meeting between the previous season’s Champions League and Europa League winners. UEFA is already considering the introduction of a four-team mini-tournament at the start of each season, which would include the previous season’s Champions League winners and three other leading teams in what would be referred to as the “Opening Tournament”.

Following the failure of the Super League project last year, UEFA conceded more power to clubs when it embarked on a joint venture with the ECA to identify marketing partners to sell commercial rights for European club competitions in the 2024-27 cycle.

In February this year, UEFA and the ECA appointed Team Marketing and Relevent Sports Group as sales partners for the men’s club competitions.

In March, Al-Khelaifi said they had seen an “amazing 39 per cent increase in the forecasted commercial value of the men’s UEFA club competitions for the post-2024 cycle”. The first three markets that have gone to tender have produced significant revenue growth — an increase of 20 per cent in the UK, 25 per cent in France and 150 per cent in the US (excluding Spanish-language rights, which are still to be sold).

The case for taking matches abroad was underlined when the ECA last week released research on the changing nature of football fandom. It demonstrated survey results that claimed 34 per cent of football fans in China and 28 per cent in the US were influenced by a major competition or event to start following football.

The report added: “This highlights that there are opportunities for European clubs and competitions to build on this interest and influence; to increase the availability of European club football to these audiences and allow exposure to these events to continue building further and deeper interest and engagement.”

Sources close to discussions insisted there is no harm in ideas being debated and say the UEFA and ECA joint venture is the type of environment in which new ideas on the commercial side should be discussed at a time when clubs are looking for new revenue sources post-COVID-19.

This week’s ECA summit will also host Stefano Domenicali, the CEO of Formula 1, as European football seeks to learn lessons and hear expertise from sports that have grown their audiences substantially in the US in recent times. Previous recent summits have featured talks from experts from the Harvard Business School, as well as the former Liverpool chief executive Peter Moore delivering a session on opportunities relating to the metaverse.

The Super League is dead. These clubs aren't going to quit the Champions League, but why are they still caving to them? It's horrendous.

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