Dr. Gonzo 8,177 Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 1 hour ago, Azeem said: I like Putin, he's not an idiot unlike his counterparts Trump, Borris etc He’s still a bad guy. But tbf to him, pretty much all world leaders are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Artful Dodger 1,831 Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 Russia saving the world, it's all so 1943. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honey Honey 3,767 Posted August 12, 2020 Share Posted August 12, 2020 Apparently the only difference between this vaccine and others in development is they haven't bothered with full testing and seemingly they're not going to bother. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry 1,437 Posted August 12, 2020 Share Posted August 12, 2020 I suspect trump will copy him. He'll be ropeable not to have been the first to do this, but for certain help be going to the polls in November claiming to have have cured coronavirus. 17 hours ago, Dr. Gonzo said: I remain skeptical as fuck Me too. As sceptical as I have been about their mortality rate being way better than Germany, or China's months of near zero Covid cases. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Artful Dodger 1,831 Posted August 12, 2020 Share Posted August 12, 2020 25 minutes ago, Harvsky said: Apparently the only difference between this vaccine and others in development is they haven't bothered with full testing and seemingly they're not going to bother. I'm sure there are issues but it is quite funny, in a dark sort of way, how desperately the West are hoping for this vaccine to fail. Rather a raging pandemic than any sort of prestige for Russia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator Tommy 12,606 Posted August 12, 2020 Moderator Share Posted August 12, 2020 I love German satire. https://dietagespresse.com/zehn-minuten-nach-impfung-tochter-von-putin-stemmt-240-kilogramm/?fbclid=IwAR3yUXfbufOfc-TOgqTW0qMHg3s6gcrSsFmXenD8rxeoZ16xI22kuxWAc3w "The vaccine was tested extensively. Either you had no corona, or you went into the woods and shot yourself in the head, twice. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry 1,437 Posted August 12, 2020 Share Posted August 12, 2020 57 minutes ago, The Artful Dodger said: I'm sure there are issues but it is quite funny, in a dark sort of way, how desperately the West are hoping for this vaccine to fail. Rather a raging pandemic than any sort of prestige for Russia. They aren't though mate they're just not impressed that they are following the process, with multiple candidate vaccines in stage 3 trials, whilst Russia bypass the processes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber nudge+ 15,325 Posted August 12, 2020 Author Subscriber Share Posted August 12, 2020 2 hours ago, Harvsky said: Apparently the only difference between this vaccine and others in development is they haven't bothered with full testing and seemingly they're not going to bother. That's not true though. The Phase 3 trials are starting today with thousands of volunteers in numerous countries, as usual. They simply registered the vaccine early in order to be able to fast-track its distribution to key workers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber nudge+ 15,325 Posted August 12, 2020 Author Subscriber Share Posted August 12, 2020 52 minutes ago, Harry said: They aren't though mate they're just not impressed that they are following the process, with multiple candidate vaccines in stage 3 trials, whilst Russia bypass the processes. As above - phase 3 trials start today. UAE, Saudi Arabia, Philippines and likely Brazil among countries that participate in them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Stan 18,366 Posted August 12, 2020 Administrator Share Posted August 12, 2020 1 minute ago, nudge said: As above - phase 3 trials start today. UAE, Saudi Arabia, Philippines and likely Brazil among countries that participate in them. what results from these phase 3 trials would be good news? As in, what percentage would be enough to take it forward even more? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber nudge+ 15,325 Posted August 12, 2020 Author Subscriber Share Posted August 12, 2020 5 minutes ago, Stan said: what results from these phase 3 trials would be good news? As in, what percentage would be enough to take it forward even more? I believe in this particular case, the vaccine is supposed to protect at least 50% of trial participants in order to be deemed effective. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honey Honey 3,767 Posted August 12, 2020 Share Posted August 12, 2020 58 minutes ago, nudge said: That's not true though. The Phase 3 trials are starting today with thousands of volunteers in numerous countries, as usual. They simply registered the vaccine early in order to be able to fast-track its distribution to key workers. Basically at the same phase many others companies have already reached? Just with the added Trumpism. Some analyst somewhere (lol) said the risk is that they dish this out outside of trials and it backfires then the anti-vaxxer cause will grow in numbers and resistance to all other covid vaccines. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber nudge+ 15,325 Posted August 12, 2020 Author Subscriber Share Posted August 12, 2020 4 minutes ago, Harvsky said: Basically at the same phase many others companies have already reached? Just with the added Trumpism. Some analyst somewhere (lol) said the risk is that they dish this out outside of trials and it backfires then the anti-vaxxer cause will grow in numbers and resistance to all other covid vaccines. Yes, exactly - the same phase as many others, just with added publicity stunt. The second point might be reasonable, but then again, the procedure is not really that different from the approach that other countries are taking. Fast tracking vaccines or drugs always poses certain risks. The Russians expect to be able to distribute the vaccine to the general public in January, that's over 4 months time to conduct Phase 3 trials, and about the same timeline that other vaccine manufacturers are following. I'm looking forward to the phase 1 & 2 trial data they are supposed to publish this month. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Gonzo 8,177 Posted August 12, 2020 Share Posted August 12, 2020 7 hours ago, Harry said: I suspect trump will copy him. He'll be ropeable not to have been the first to do this, but for certain help be going to the polls in November claiming to have have cured coronavirus. Me too. As sceptical as I have been about their mortality rate being way better than Germany, or China's months of near zero Covid cases. I’m sure he will try that. And probably so will Modi and Bolsonero. Weird how so many countries hit so badly by this disease are the ones led by shitty populists. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beelzebub 2,508 Posted August 12, 2020 Share Posted August 12, 2020 Lock down has been lifted completely here, some things like schools will open in the first week of September. Hope we don't fuck it up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry 1,437 Posted August 12, 2020 Share Posted August 12, 2020 8 hours ago, Dr. Gonzo said: I’m sure he will try that. And probably so will Modi and Bolsonero. Weird how so many countries hit so badly by this disease are the ones led by shitty populists. I don't even trust the data from those countries tbh. Since shifting the reporting from the CDC America's death curve has flattened, and rate of testing has reduced, positivity rate has increased. Would not surprise me if the excess deaths in states like Florida are much higher than their reported Covid deaths now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carnivore Chris 2,606 Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 The Netherlands will now be added to the list of countries that require quarantine when arriving back to the UK. You could see it coming when I was there 2 week ago as they were having a rise in cases then and there weren't any social distancing being followed as such. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honey Honey 3,767 Posted August 14, 2020 Share Posted August 14, 2020 10 hours ago, Carnivore Chris said: The Netherlands will now be added to the list of countries that require quarantine when arriving back to the UK. You could see it coming when I was there 2 week ago as they were having a rise in cases then and there weren't any social distancing being followed as such. France has been added as well and they're going to put the UK on their list in retaliation I love how bitter French culture is. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carnivore Chris 2,606 Posted August 14, 2020 Share Posted August 14, 2020 55 minutes ago, Harvsky said: France has been added as well and they're going to put the UK on their list in retaliation I love how bitter French culture is. My mate was supposed to be going carp fishing there in 3 weeks aswell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Artful Dodger 1,831 Posted August 14, 2020 Share Posted August 14, 2020 I'm surpsrised we're not already banned from France. France is just a better place than England, better food, better language, better girls, better cities. London is a dog compared to Paris. And what's next Birmingham or Manchester compared to Lyon? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honey Honey 3,767 Posted August 14, 2020 Share Posted August 14, 2020 17 minutes ago, The Artful Dodger said: I'm surpsrised we're not already banned from France. France is just a better place than England, better food, better language, better girls, better cities. London is a dog compared to Paris. And what's next Birmingham or Manchester compared to Lyon? London is the 2nd biggest French city in Europe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Artful Dodger 1,831 Posted August 14, 2020 Share Posted August 14, 2020 Just now, Harvsky said: London is the 2nd biggest French city in Europe I like London but it's full of Toffs and it's ugly compared to Paris. France is just a lot nicer than England, even the way they speak sounds nice and that is very rare. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Artful Dodger 1,831 Posted August 14, 2020 Share Posted August 14, 2020 Is there anyone more loathsome than Michael Gove? Why can't the provos come back and do some good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluewolf 7,161 Posted August 14, 2020 Share Posted August 14, 2020 2 hours ago, Harvsky said: France has been added as well and they're going to put the UK on their list in retaliation I love how bitter French culture is. I see the Netherlands have joined in as well now.. siding with the French and doing the same thing... Gather your pitchforks peasants it's war!!! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Stan 18,366 Posted August 16, 2020 Administrator Share Posted August 16, 2020 The UK everyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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