Subscriber RandoEFC+ 7,661 Posted January 6, 2022 Subscriber Share Posted January 6, 2022 On 30/12/2021 at 22:23, Smiley Culture said: Maybe instead of tossers moaning about people daring to have the propensity to schedule football games these blokes should be looking closer to home. Six of their bosses wanted to set up their own competition where there was going to be EIGHTEEN group games per season, a 200% increase from what they do now. The faux anger lasted a week and it was brushed under the carpet much like the actual changes to the Champions League that were ushered in through the back door, four more teams to qualify for the Champions League and there to be ten group games. Why isn’t Tuchel and angry, angry Jürgen moaning about that and not Burnley, for daring to not be quite as good as Liverpool? Pre-covid all these sides would jump on a plane and hammer Asia, Africa and North America to sell shirts, this was never a problem mentioned in November by the managers but a bloody League Cup game where they weren’t even going to play a strong team and instead having squad numbers that add up to about 700, that’s the devil. We’ve just had a third European club competition added, it’s not even registered on manager’s radar. Dyche has it right, we’re not asking a lot from Premier League footballers to play twice in two or three days, they suddenly fucking do it if a few million pound for appearing in Europe is on the cards but god forbid we ask them at Christmas. If this is the future of football, shove it. All of this is what I think every time the cry-arsing about fixture congestion comes up. And I know it's been acknowledged that Premier League managers involved spoke out against the Super League but even then it was about the lack of relegation more than anything, they didn't raise concerns about the scheduling. Maybe it's harsh to expect them to when it was such a hypothetical. Still, it pisses me right off the likes of Tuchel being here for five minutes suggesting we should scrap stuff like FA Cup replays or the entire League Cup. The only thing I'll add to what has already been said a thousand times is that I still think the Champions League should be streamlined. The majority of groups it's pretty obvious which two teams are going to qualify and having six sets of midweek fixtures to resolve what's often inevitable just seems daft. If the genuine concern was fixture congestion, it would be just as legitimate to suggest that the Champions League knockouts should be a single legged affair and tough luck if you get drawn away, or that they should only play each other once in the Group Stage, which would even offer up the option for them to play one home game, one away game, and then one neutral venue game out in the US or Abu Dhabi which we all know they've been gagging for for years. Yet it's never the Champions League that needs streamlining is it? It's perfectly reasonable for teams that reach the Final of a tournament which is realistically between about eight teams to play thirteen midweek games. And they want to make it bigger don't they? The casual ignorance and acceptance of the hypocrisy in the media really is an embarrassment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Gonzo 8,184 Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 Apparently we can’t field a full XI with our senior squad OR our academy currently New training facility with the academy and first team under the same roof backfiring almost immediately Fuck covid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFCMike 3,009 Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 32 minutes ago, Dr. Gonzo said: Apparently we can’t field a full XI with our senior squad OR our academy currently New training facility with the academy and first team under the same roof backfiring almost immediately Fuck covid Has that been confirmed to be the case? When the training ground closed the other day they only mentioned the first team facility being closed. Then when I saw the under 18s Youth Cup match get called off it had to be either they'd be playing on Sunday v Shrewsbury or they can't train themselves. Anyway, Liverpool have 50odd professional footballers, surely they can put a side together to play one match without being able to train all week? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Gonzo 8,184 Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 36 minutes ago, LFCMike said: Has that been confirmed to be the case? When the training ground closed the other day they only mentioned the first team facility being closed. Then when I saw the under 18s Youth Cup match get called off it had to be either they'd be playing on Sunday v Shrewsbury or they can't train themselves. Anyway, Liverpool have 50odd professional footballers, surely they can put a side together to play one match without being able to train all week? I've seen an estimate from one of the journos on twitter saying around 90% of the people who work in the facility are infected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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The Palace Fan 3,402 Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 Thats incredibly noble of Liverpool to reopen the training ground ahead of this weekends fixture. I'm sure it has absolutely nothing to do with the fact that the FA cannot reschedule another League game in the time frame that Salah and Mane are at AFCON because of the League Cup postponement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFCMadLad 2,080 Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 Excellent work by the club! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 @Devil-Dick Willie you know a bit about this stuff. How long would players need to recover at the intensity the premier league is played at? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Stan 18,380 Posted January 7, 2022 Administrator Share Posted January 7, 2022 Reckon our game vs Everton gets canned again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber Dan+ 1,918 Posted January 7, 2022 Subscriber Share Posted January 7, 2022 We're trying but not sure we'll manage. Our injury situation simply the worst I've ever seen. It's just laughable at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFCMike 3,009 Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 3 hours ago, The Palace Fan said: Thats incredibly noble of Liverpool to reopen the training ground ahead of this weekends fixture. I'm sure it has absolutely nothing to do with the fact that the FA cannot reschedule another League game in the time frame that Salah and Mane are at AFCON because of the League Cup postponement. What? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cicero 5,267 Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 How many players do LIverpool even have out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Gonzo 8,184 Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 Southampton asking the league to not allow players to play if they were registered after the original date of a postponed match is legitimately pathetic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Gonzo 8,184 Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 10 minutes ago, Cicero said: How many players do LIverpool even have out? Most of the starting squad and a lot of the academy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFCMike 3,009 Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 25 minutes ago, Cicero said: How many players do LIverpool even have out? They've not said. That Athletic article just said 'heavily depleted'. We had 11 out I think before the AFCON players went and the Covid outbreak. I suppose we'll find out more when Krawietz takes the press conference tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Stan 18,380 Posted January 7, 2022 Administrator Share Posted January 7, 2022 48 minutes ago, Dr. Gonzo said: Southampton asking the league to not allow players to play if they were registered after the original date of a postponed match is legitimately pathetic. Why? I think it's quite reasonable. Same applies for FA Cup replays (when they're played). New signings who weren't registered for the original tie aren't allowed to play. Same should apply here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Palace Fan 3,402 Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 1 hour ago, LFCMike said: What? Having the Arsenal League Cup game rearranged to the 20th ensured you cannot have a league fixture without your African players scheduled in to that week like many Premier League clubs are doing. Your outstanding fixture with Leeds is very likely to take place from Gameweek 30 onwards when you now have a full squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Palace Fan 3,402 Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 28 minutes ago, Stan said: Why? I think it's quite reasonable. Same applies for FA Cup replays (when they're played). New signings who weren't registered for the original tie aren't allowed to play. Same should apply here. Newcastle will have egg on there face if that happens given there fixture was conveiniently cancelled after there only two players of Premier League quality got injured. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFCMike 3,009 Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 People have actually lost their heads over Liverpool having a game postponed haven't they? The carry on this week you'd think they were the only team to request that a game be postponed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honey Honey 3,767 Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 I thought it was fair for new signings to be banned from rearranged games. Until someone pointed out that it means clubs won't or can't sell players. Once you consider that it's a bit more grey. Southampton are complaining because they are rattled to fuck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devil-Dick Willie 3,253 Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 5 hours ago, Gunnersauraus said: @Devil-Dick Willie you know a bit about this stuff. How long would players need to recover at the intensity the premier league is played at? Without suffering greatly increased chance of injury, or diminishing intensity? I think 2 football games per week most weeks is the most you could reasonably do, but having those weeks of 6 days off is a necessary blessing too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber Dan+ 1,918 Posted January 7, 2022 Subscriber Share Posted January 7, 2022 Southampton's request is fair in my eyes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devil-Dick Willie 3,253 Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 On 07/01/2022 at 02:32, RondónEFC said: All of this is what I think every time the cry-arsing about fixture congestion comes up. And I know it's been acknowledged that Premier League managers involved spoke out against the Super League but even then it was about the lack of relegation more than anything, they didn't raise concerns about the scheduling. Maybe it's harsh to expect them to when it was such a hypothetical. Still, it pisses me right off the likes of Tuchel being here for five minutes suggesting we should scrap stuff like FA Cup replays or the entire League Cup. The only thing I'll add to what has already been said a thousand times is that I still think the Champions League should be streamlined. The majority of groups it's pretty obvious which two teams are going to qualify and having six sets of midweek fixtures to resolve what's often inevitable just seems daft. If the genuine concern was fixture congestion, it would be just as legitimate to suggest that the Champions League knockouts should be a single legged affair and tough luck if you get drawn away, or that they should only play each other once in the Group Stage, which would even offer up the option for them to play one home game, one away game, and then one neutral venue game out in the US or Abu Dhabi which we all know they've been gagging for for years. Yet it's never the Champions League that needs streamlining is it? It's perfectly reasonable for teams that reach the Final of a tournament which is realistically between about eight teams to play thirteen midweek games. And they want to make it bigger don't they? The casual ignorance and acceptance of the hypocrisy in the media really is an embarrassment. You should scrap the entire league cup. It's been pointless for well over a decade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber RandoEFC+ 7,661 Posted January 7, 2022 Subscriber Share Posted January 7, 2022 7 minutes ago, Devil-Dick Willie said: You should scrap the entire league cup. It's been pointless for well over a decade. Pointless to who? It isn't pointless to the bottom 14 teams in the Premier League. In fact even Man City and possibly some of the rest of the Super League Six don't seem to think it's pointless and try to win it every season. The teams outside the Premier League wouldn't say this either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honey Honey 3,767 Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 If we sell Sean Longstaff to Everton, then in February we play our postponed game with them, will Longstaff be allowed to come back and play for us against Everton for that 1 game only, since we can't play a signed replacement? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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