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The player in question was the only Arsenal player to get a yellow card against Leeds. He got away without a yellow card for a ridiculous stamp on Raphinha's ankle and then later spent about 20 seconds dithering over a free kick in Arsenals half.

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Firstly, who the fuck time wastes in the 86th minute when 4-1 up against a team ravaged by injuries and kids playing?

Secondly, I remember at the time thinking how the fuck did he get away with the Raphinha challenge because it was vintage Xhaka, reckless. There was uproar when Joe Gelhardt got booked for dishing some back later in the half.

Thirdly, at a time when they have cowardly backed out the North London derby, this negativity really doesn't look good for Arsenal and needs explaining.

It's important at this stage not to overreact till the proof comes out but if this turns out to be true and Xhaka is in on this, he needs to be given a serious ban. This is no better for me than drug taking. The square root is still cheating.

P.S Ban Andre Marriner. Xhaka was trying to get booked by taking out Raphinha and he still missed giving him a yellow xD

Oh, and give us our 3pts, you cheating postponing bastards.

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4 hours ago, Lucas said:

It's important at this stage not to overreact till the proof comes out but if this turns out to be true and Xhaka is in on this, he needs to be given a serious ban. This is no better for me than drug taking. The square root is still cheating.

That's not true at all though is it? It might be cheating to get money from gambling but it doesn't affect the game at all whereas taking sports enhancing drugs would. Should be punished if he was in on something dodgy but let's not pretend he did anything to gain an advantage in the game. If anything, it'd be a case of making it more difficult for Arsenal going forward with an extra booking to his name.

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3 hours ago, ...Dan said:

Maybe Xhaka is actually a great player and all the stupid things he's done to lose us matches over the years were done on purpose to win money...

He's a great player either way and has been a key part of a lot more wins than losses but maybe this isn't a time to mention that...

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11 minutes ago, shut up said:

Yeah, when Juventus were one of the best teams in the world, not when they're battling for europa league spots

Football doesn't really work like that - a player on a team is just one individual part of a collection of players that make up the whole of the team. There can be good players on bad teams and bad players on good teams (although there'll be less bad players on good teams generally, as good players usually make up good sides). Henry (and Bergkamp) were shit in Italy and brilliant at Arsenal.

And for what it's worth, Juve are only 1 point off CL places in 5th place. Arsenal are 2 points off 4th place in 6th place.

You never really know how a player will do after a move until after they've moved and started to play. I wouldn't write off a player just because they're coming from a side that's not a top side in that league (and Juve's period of being substandard is substantially shorter than your own period of being substandard).

38 minutes ago, Stan said:

What's wrong with Kulusevski? 

Dunno, we're not too far removed from him looking brilliant at Atalanta. But the man who was excited about Willian reinforcing his attack thinks that

27 minutes ago, shut up said:

He's shite

But either way, the BBC make it sound like he's on his way to Spurs and not Arsenal.

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12 minutes ago, shut up said:

No idea why you keep bringing Willian up. He had a good last season at Chelsea, and was literally their best player statistically. They offered him a new two year deal for a reason

Kuluveski was voted Juventus worst signing of the decade by a Juve supporters group. He's a spurs type of signing tbf. About his level

I haven't brought Willian up for a while until just now?

But I don't think Chelsea fans like @Ciceroor @Bluewolfwould agree that he was their best player that season, regardless of statistics. Chelsea offered him a 2 year deal, but they also didn't offer him what he wanted in terms of wages because they didn't think he was worth what was being offered.

Just saying it seems a bit strange to be excited about a rival's castoff, despite being a fan of the same league and probably having a lot more opportunities to watch him/them play rather than just rely purely on statistics... but be less excited about signing a player from a big club in Italy. I definitely think there's a more clear upside to this signing than Willian. Whereas with Willian, best case scenario, you'd be getting that inconsistent player from Chelsea that left their fans frustrated more often than not.

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17 minutes ago, shut up said:

Willian was never a world class player, and could be frustrating at times, but he was still a regular starter for one of the best teams in the country, and *think* he had his best ever season in a Chelsea shirt, hence why they offered him a two year deal. Not sure you know what cast off means. In hindsight, him going to Arsenal saved Chelsea £££ & they're probably grateful he did leave

Kuluveski can't get a game for a side that's fighting for 5th place, and Juve are offering him out to anybody that will listen (apparently). When he does gets minutes, he looks terrible. If you rate him so much, then better hope he's Salah's replacement 

Salah plays on the other side typically, but okay xD. And it's so much that I rate Kuleveski as a world class talent - it's more me not rating your hot takes on players.

Gini Wijnaldum and Andy Robertson both joined us after getting relegated, Ramsdale was being relegated twice before joining Arsenal. Henry at Juve looked more shite than Pepe does with you now, despite Juve being one of the best sides in the world at the time. Are those players flops? Nah.

There's more to judging a player's individual qualities than looking at the side they play for, it's not exactly rocket science.

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I’m done talking about Willian. A player we should’ve fucked off years ago. That’s all I say on the matter. 
 

Edu has set Arsenal back enormously and looks like he’s at it again. 
 

 

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I don’t know who this Juve midfielder is but what is clear is that Arsenal need a starting centre mid with Partey and will need to replace Xhaka in the Summer, maybe Elneny too. Getting a squad CM in a window early isn’t bad business at all.

I’m fact the last two transfer windows have been very successful for Edu and Arteta, don’t know how you can skate what they’ve done here.

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On the topic of Arthur he’s been jumped between two clubs who are in turmoil trying to balance the books. I don’t think his current form is a good representation of his ability 

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