Should Buffon Win The Ballon D'or

[The Premier Steve's]

 

 

[SirBalon]

I think you meant Gianluigi Buffon mate and not Jenson Button 

In my opinion no because I already complained about how Cristiano Ronaldo won it last year and if I said yes then all the reasons I put would be for nothing and biassed.

There is only one winner for the next Ballon d'Or which is an individual award for the best individual throughout the year...  Right now there is only one player head and shoulders above every other.  You can't award this for what the collective have achieved and when you've been good (sort of) for three games all year.

[The Premier Steve's]

Lol did it say button? That's auto correct for you it is the burden of my life, constantly calling people by the wrong name 

[Mel81x]

Just get the man a Champions League trophy and even he will go Ballon De What?

[Cure]

There's no doubt Buffon is one of the best goalkeeper to have played the beautiful game. He's been so strong this season in the league and in the Champions League we've been treated to some equally outstanding performances. For a man fast approaching a milestone in his life he's shining far above the rest and proving that age is just a number.

Lev Yashin is the only keeper to have won the award. I feel it's time for Buffon to get it.

I feel it'll be closely contested with Messi. He's had a brilliant season too and D'or tends to favour goalscorers. Fingers crossed he'll be beaten just this once.

Edited May 14, 2017 by Cure

[SirBalon]

Juve have been totally a collective success this season and nobody's stood out as the all inspiring individual.  If anything the in quarters and the semis of the Champions League the star man was Dani Alves who seems to have rejuvenated himself.  But you can't win an award that consists of 12 months on the fact you were very good in three or four games when a season with a club playing in all competitions can reach anything upto 70 odd games.

Edited May 14, 2017 by SirBalon

[Eco]

Give it to him, he should already have one and it's crazy to think he hasn't gotten one yet. He's the GOAT. 

[SirBalon]

7 hours ago, ATL said:

Give it to him, he should already have one

Really?

When?

Why?

[Eco]

4 hours ago, SirBalon said:

Really?

When?

Why?

2006 for one. Cannavaro won based on his outstanding WC performance, whereas Buffon was legend in the WC and in League Play that year.

He probably won't though, as it seems only Ronaldo or Messi can win it anymore. If it were up to me, I'd switch it up this year and give it to someone else, and someone like Buffon (especially if they do the treble), is beyond deserving of this award. Just because he doesn't score goals doesn't mean he's not the greatest player.

[Harry]

Give it to Buffon. Sure.

Fuck. Give it to Joey Barton or Lee Cattermole for all i care. Just not Messi and Ronaldo. 

[SirBalon]

2 hours ago, ATL said:

2006 for one. Cannavaro won based on his outstanding WC performance, whereas Buffon was legend in the WC and in League Play that year.

He probably won't though, as it seems only Ronaldo or Messi can win it anymore. If it were up to me, I'd switch it up this year and give it to someone else, and someone like Buffon (especially if they do the treble), is beyond deserving of this award. Just because he doesn't score goals doesn't mean he's not the greatest player.

Mate, I have no problem whatsoever in Buffon getting the award for all the reasons stated and the fact he's also a model character within the sport which for me is also important. But he hasn't done anything to merit it this year above others that can be named. I don't see the collective victories as a reason to award someone an individual award. 

[Cicero]

If they win the treble Buffon should most definitely be a shoe in. 

Considering if Juve do win the Champions League, the entire limelight will be around Gigi

[Eco]

1 hour ago, Cicero said:

If they win the treble Buffon should most definitely be a shoe in. 

Considering if Juve do win the Champions League, the entire limelight will be around Gigi

This. If Juve when the treble, you have to give it to their captain and leader.

[Guest]

1 hour ago, Cicero said:

If they win the treble Buffon should most definitely be a shoe in. 

Considering if Juve do win the Champions League, the entire limelight will be around Gigi

Or Ronaldo will win it for scoring more goals. Just like Neuer should have been in 2014.

Personally I think Bonucci should win it but that's just me.

[Cure]

5 minutes ago, LaSambadeStGermain said:

Or Ronaldo will win it for scoring more goals. Just like Neuer should have been in 2014.

Personally I think Bonucci should win it but that's just me.

Edited May 15, 2017 by Cure

[Asura]

Scrap the Balon D'or totally, no single player deserves it

[Spike]

How many saves does he have to make a game? Not that many, because Juve's defence is beyond ridiculous. He may be the best GK in the world but the way Juve is set up Gigi is not an irreplaceable option. The Balon d'Or should be given to the individual that brings their team to the next level. 

Look at Barcelona and Juventus. Barca consistently look far more lost without Andres Iniesta than Juve does without Buffon. Their roles are incomparable but the fact remains that Barcelona is crippled without Iniesta but the same isn't the same for Juve. Who is the better player? That cannot be decided as one is a midfielder and one is a goalkeeper, it's the same for any playesr that occupy entirely different roles. What can be decided is which player is more instrumental to the team's success.

[Guest]

4 minutes ago, Spike said:

How many saves does he have to make a game? Not that many, because Juve's defence is beyond ridiculous. He may be the best GK in the world but the way Juve is set up Gigi is not an irreplaceable option. The Balon d'Or should be given to the individual that brings their team to the next level. 

Look at Barcelona and Juventus. Barca consistently look far more lost without Andres Iniesta than Juve does without Buffon. Their roles are incomparable but the fact remains that Barcelona is crippled without Iniesta but the same isn't the same for Juve. Who is the better player? That cannot be decided as one is a midfielder and one is a goalkeeper, it's the same for any playesr that occupy entirely different roles. What can be decided is which player is more instrumental to the team's success.

This. Not only that but Buffon has been more prone to howlers in the league. As I said I think Bonucci deserves it if anyone on Juve. The whole backline has been important but the stand out has been Bonucci to me.

Edited May 15, 2017 by Guest

[Cicero]

2 minutes ago, Spike said:

How many saves does he have to make a game? Not that many, because Juve's defence is beyond ridiculous. He may be the best GK in the world but the way Juve is set up Gigi is not an irreplaceable option. The Balon d'Or should be given to the individual that brings their team to the next level. 

Look at Barcelona and Juventus. Barca consistently look far more lost without Andres Iniesta than Juve does without Buffon. Their roles are incomparable but the fact remains that Barcelona is crippled without Iniesta but the same isn't the same for Juve. Who is the better player? That cannot be decided as one is a midfielder and one is a goalkeeper, it's the same for any playesr that occupy entirely different roles. What can be decided is which player is more instrumental to the team's success.

It's great,, but not impenetrable.

Barca and Monaco both created enough chances where they could of gotten something out of each tie, The Iniesta chance springs instantly into mind as well as Falcao's missed chances both legs. 

[Spike]

Just now, Cicero said:

It's great,, but not impenetrable.

Barca and Monaco both created enough chances where they could of gotten something out of each tie, The Iniesta chance springs instantly into mind as well as Falcao's missed chances both legs. 

A miss isn't a save! 

[Cicero]

2 minutes ago, Spike said:

A miss isn't a save! 

The Iniesta chance and Falcao chances were both denied by incredible saves

[Machado]

Buffon is the best GK in the world.

I'm now an hipster.

[Spike]

7 minutes ago, Cicero said:

The Iniesta chance and Falcao chances were both denied by incredible saves

Two incredible saves aren't enough for the best player in the world. 

[True Blue]

Courtois easy

[Cicero]

1 minute ago, Spike said:

Two incredible saves aren't enough for the best player in the world. 

*three, and those were just off the top of my head. This idea that Juve has some brick wall of a defence holds some truth but any top quality side will create chances, which both Barca and Monaco did plenty of and were both shut out by Buffon. 

The award hasn't held it's value for a long time now. If Juve do win the title I still believe the limelight will be shifted towards Buffon, and that would be a breath of fresh air. 

[SirBalon]

1 hour ago, ATL said:

This. If Juve when the treble, you have to give it to their captain and leader.

No...  The Ballon d'Or is for the best player in the world during 12 months.  That's what it says on the tin and that's the way it should be.  The fact you want him to get it (as I even do), it doesn't make it right.  But then again this has happened in the past (a number of times) and I wouldn't say it can't happen again.  He hasn't even been the best Juventus player this season let alone the best player in the world.

[The Artful Dodger]

Do you think Messi should win it? I think is quiet performances in the knockout rounds of the Champions League work against him.

[Eco]

1 hour ago, SirBalon said:

No...  The Ballon d'Or is for the best player in the world during 12 months.  That's what it says on the tin and that's the way it should be.  The fact you want him to get it (as I even do), it doesn't make it right.  But then again this has happened in the past (a number of times) and I wouldn't say it can't happen again.  He hasn't even been the best Juventus player this season let alone the best player in the world.

But who else wins it? Surely not Messi or Ronaldo. If you go for Juventus, you really just have a hand full of people, but all have dings against them. If you have watched Juventus all year, I think it's very acceptable to give it to the heart and soul of arguably the best team in the world.

[SirBalon]

1 hour ago, The Artful Dodger said:

Do you think Messi should win it? I think is quiet performances in the knockout rounds of the Champions League work against him.

I think Messi does deserve it overall on what I've been subjected to  during the year so far (remember there's still a long way to go in this). But that's by the by in the context of the best player in the world for 2017. This is a collective team sport and you can't punish an individual for collective deficiencies...

Aside from that, what I'm most against is a footballer having three or four good games in a season and getting awarded for it. For example where Juventus is concerned if we want to go down that route, tell me why Buffon has been more important than Gonzalo Higuaín this season? Remember that they're also playing their domestic competition where he's been fundamental to that cause. But then again some are calling for goals to be ignored in a sense which I'm all for... Dani Alves? Well France Football (the awarders of the Ballon d'Or have called last week Cristiano Ronaldo as the optimum candidate because of three games in said tournament), he's as good a candidate under that type of judgement.  

35 minutes ago, ATL said:

But who else wins it? Surely not Messi or Ronaldo. If you go for Juventus, you really just have a hand full of people, but all have dings against them. If you have watched Juventus all year, I think it's very acceptable to give it to the heart and soul of arguably the best team in the world.

Buffon hasn't been the best player in the world this year (so far... remember there are 7 months remaining for the judging on 12 months). This is the typical rubbish fans get drawn into these days and I get the hunger for a character such as Gianluigi Buffon to be named as the Ballon d'Or winner because of the monopoly of the other two. Believe me I want to see an end to that stuff too, but it hasn't ended and for me Cristiano Ronaldo has actually had his worst season in over a decade whereas Messi has been tremendous this year (so far) and actually carried his side most of the way.

But forget Messi and Cristiano... Is Buffon really the best player this year in the whole world? Come on!  Give me a break. Although as far as I'm concerned I won't complain if he gets it because he's a brilliant character in the world of football but nowhere near the best and most fundamental footballer for his club and country this year so far. 

Edited May 15, 2017 by SirBalon

[SirBalon]

38 minutes ago, ATL said:

But who else wins it? Surely not Messi or Ronaldo. If you go for Juventus, you really just have a hand full of people, but all have dings against them. If you have watched Juventus all year, I think it's very acceptable to give it to the heart and soul of arguably the best team in the world.

Also take this into consideration... Right now Juve have only won Serie 'A' and they could lose against both Lazio and Real in each respective competition.

Forgetting that... I don't subscribe to the fact the best player has to have played in the winning team. The Ballon d'Or is an individual award, not a collective one. 

Edited May 15, 2017 by SirBalon