Beelzebub 2,508 Posted December 18, 2020 Share Posted December 18, 2020 Bet Trump will destroy something important in his final hours in the office. Like the kid who bursts the ball before he next one gets to play Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Stan 18,378 Posted January 3, 2021 Administrator Share Posted January 3, 2021 I know nothing much looks good for Trump, but this really doesn't... Still he'll get utter bellends still backing and hanging on his every word as if he can do no wrong. Pure corruption and trying to corrupt others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry 1,437 Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 Yep. This is a bad one. Almost certainly criminal. And horribly immoral. Probably one of dozens of these calls he's made since the election... You really need to listen to the whole 60 minutes or a portion of it to see how delusional trump is at this point. He's fully incapable of accepting his defeat and knows he's likely to face criminal charges when he leaves office. He's unhinged and has nothing to lose. Agree it's not good for him or for the GOP ahead of tomorrow's Georgia runoffs. And coming in same morning as a profound Op Ed co-written by all ten living former secretaries of defence (including the two who served under trump) cautioning the military they may need to resist Trump if he tries to give orders inconsistent with a peaceful transfer of power. The fact these ten would feel the need to do something so unprecedented should sound alarm bells. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Inverted 1,776 Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 (edited) Any functioning legal system should have a way of publicly executing, or at least exiling and seizing the assets from, somebody behaving like Trump right now. Edited January 4, 2021 by Inverted 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry 1,437 Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 Closing argument on the impeachment hearing. Powerful, and relevant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber RandoEFC+ 7,661 Posted January 4, 2021 Subscriber Share Posted January 4, 2021 So seems that the Democrats have a chance of sneaking these two Senate seats. Surely the Republicans still bumming Trump the loser will have to realise that allowing him to throw his tantrums may have ended up costing them control of the Senate as well as the White House? Or are we not yet at a point where logic applies to anything in American politics again yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Stan 18,378 Posted January 5, 2021 Administrator Share Posted January 5, 2021 Trump barred from Scotland Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Gonzo 8,184 Posted January 6, 2021 Share Posted January 6, 2021 I hope these 2 Georgia senate seats go to the democrats, otherwise not a whole lot changes even without Trump Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry 1,437 Posted January 6, 2021 Share Posted January 6, 2021 Promising so far for the democrats. On 05/01/2021 at 06:51, RandoEFC said: So seems that the Democrats have a chance of sneaking these two Senate seats. Surely the Republicans still bumming Trump the loser will have to realise that allowing him to throw his tantrums may have ended up costing them control of the Senate as well as the White House? Or are we not yet at a point where logic applies to anything in American politics again yet? Georgia has been red so long that the GOP still have a strong chance to win. But it can't be understated how much Trump has created chaos in the Georgia Republican party since November. He has smashed a popular Republican governor and secretary of state that were strongly pro trump, over their refusal to commit election fraud in his name. This caused the two senators to come out and call for the resignation of those two. Loeffler has even sunken to challenging the election result tomorrow to try to motivate Trump's fanatics to vote. But ultimately the GOP would want to turn out all its voters and he created a massive split within the group. He also field conspiracy theory behaviour of the election being rigged which would always reduce turnout amongst his base. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry 1,437 Posted January 6, 2021 Share Posted January 6, 2021 The prospect of Mitch McConnell being out of the role of senate majority leader is huge. Huge just for America but also big for the world. He has been the grim reaper of legislation. Blocking votes from being held on things like Covid relief spending that would get enough Republican senators to side with the Dems to be implemented... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry 1,437 Posted January 6, 2021 Share Posted January 6, 2021 Ok wow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Subscriber RandoEFC+ 7,661 Posted January 6, 2021 Subscriber Share Posted January 6, 2021 Good shit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inverted 1,776 Posted January 6, 2021 Share Posted January 6, 2021 Let's hope the democrats have the balls to make good of this. There are no more excuses now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry 1,437 Posted January 6, 2021 Share Posted January 6, 2021 4 minutes ago, Inverted said: Let's hope the democrats have the balls to make good of this. There are no more excuses now. What needs to be remembered is the median senators home state and the median state in the electoral college is 4-6% more conservative than the country as a whole. The small state skew of electoral college and senate really hurts democrats, and therefore hurts the majority of voting Americans. Addressing this imbalance would be my number one priority... Statehood (and 4 new likely D senate positions) for Washington DC and Puerto Rico. Abolish the electoral college. Those two reforms sets you up to be able to move the median political centre position back towards the line with the median voter, and force the GOP to need to win a bigger coalition to win power... I'd hope that would pull them out of crazytown and back towards centre right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber RandoEFC+ 7,661 Posted January 6, 2021 Subscriber Share Posted January 6, 2021 It's funny. I've heard a lot over the last 2 months or so about how Donald Trump was actually successful and how his vote share in the presidential election was evidence that populism actually works. I'm also reading a lot about how the Republican strategy going forward could very well be a continuity Trump strategy, that he might try to be selected again for 2024, etc. I'm sorry, but just no. Corbynites in the UK were slated for grasping at straws with the "Jeremy won the argument" line and trying to make out Trump as any sort of success story as a President is just as bad. First off, he never even won the popular vote when he was elected. Then the Republicans lost control of Congress while he was in office. Then he became one of a small minority of sitting Presidents not to win a second term when standing for re-election. And now, even as a lame duck President, he has been a significant, probably decisive factor in allowing the Democrats to flip the Senate too. Yes, it was a huge shock when he threaded the needle to become President in the first place. That was his one win, putting together an improbable cohort without the popular vote on his side but with the help of an outdated electoral college and the fact that too many Americans couldn't face electing a first woman President straight after the first black one. And yes, it's pretty depressing how many people still turned out to vote for him in 2020, but here are the facts. Donald Trump LOST the House of Representatives. Donald Trump LOST the Presidency. Donald Trump LOST the Senate. Donald Trump is a serial loser who got one unlikely win. If it was anyone else, and if people weren't so scarred by that one improbable victory that would call him what he is. A loser. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Stan 18,378 Posted January 6, 2021 Administrator Share Posted January 6, 2021 Liking this news this morning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeadLinesman 5,938 Posted January 6, 2021 Share Posted January 6, 2021 Imagine going mental that the democrats have won some counties by 75% when the republicans have won others by 90% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inverted 1,776 Posted January 6, 2021 Share Posted January 6, 2021 1 hour ago, DeadLinesman said: Imagine going mental that the democrats have won some counties by 75% when the republicans have won others by 90% It's unfair - if they want to win big majorities they should at least have to go through the same effort of gerrymandering like the Republicans had to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber RandoEFC+ 7,661 Posted January 6, 2021 Subscriber Share Posted January 6, 2021 Biden and the Democrats better not fuck this up now. It shouldn't be a big deal but it is a big deal for the UK to see how much better life can be when you elect an "uninspiring" "establishment" but intelligent and vaguely competent leader and government to replace a "celebrity" who pretends to be a man of the people but is actually an elitist billionaire with no interest in making life better for the majority of the electorate, no leadership skills and no brain cells to rub together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cicero 5,267 Posted January 6, 2021 Share Posted January 6, 2021 (edited) Riots at the capitol from Trump Supporters. Bit ironic isn't it. Pence also stepping away and accepting victory for Biden. Edited January 6, 2021 by Cicero Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cicero 5,267 Posted January 6, 2021 Share Posted January 6, 2021 20 minutes ago, Cicero said: Riots at the capitol from Trump Supporters. Bit ironic isn't it. Pence also stepping away and accepting victory for Biden. Trump Protestors have now broke into the first floor in the capitol.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber RandoEFC+ 7,661 Posted January 6, 2021 Subscriber Share Posted January 6, 2021 Imagine what the same people would say if this was a Black Lives Matter protest. Trump should be jailed for life the day he leaves office. What higher order of treason is there above inciting a riot against the actual Capitol building? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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