Guest Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 2 hours ago, Danny said: The things that Sian Massey goes through just trying to do her job People always do that with female referees. They do it with female pundits as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Stan 18,378 Posted October 17, 2020 Author Administrator Share Posted October 17, 2020 Really not understanding what Aguero has done wrong there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 1 minute ago, Stan said: Really not understanding what Aguero has done wrong there. It does seem harsh. At the same time it can be seen as inappropriate for a male to touch a female like that in a normal job. Unless she makes a complaint I dont think anything should come of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny 2,203 Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 1 hour ago, Lucas said: I've seen this blow up on social media having missed the incident myself. I've watched it and I don't really see it as a massive issue. I can see why people find it condescending given the culture we live in now, but same time, I genuinely don't think he meant it to come across that way. The only person whose opinion should matter is Sian Massey and if it bothered her, fair enough, if not, people shouldn't make mountains out of molehills IMO. No it was adjust an example of something that wouldn’t have happened in that moment to a male counterpart. Doesn’t have to be massive to be unacceptable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber Dan+ 1,917 Posted October 17, 2020 Subscriber Share Posted October 17, 2020 3 hours ago, Lucas said: I've seen this blow up on social media having missed the incident myself. I've watched it and I don't really see it as a massive issue. I can see why people find it condescending given the culture we live in now, but same time, I genuinely don't think he meant it to come across that way. The only person whose opinion should matter is Sian Massey and if it bothered her, fair enough, if not, people shouldn't make mountains out of molehills IMO. Then to me there is where the problem lies. It's honestly a nothing incident at all. That said I don't really think players should really be putting their hands on any official. I highly doubt she's bothered. Plenty will be patronising to her about it though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber RandoEFC+ 7,660 Posted October 18, 2020 Subscriber Share Posted October 18, 2020 3 hours ago, Danny said: No it was adjust an example of something that wouldn’t have happened in that moment to a male counterpart. Doesn’t have to be massive to be unacceptable Really? Because I'm of the mind that actually the people who are acting outraged by it are the ones who are being sexist. I might be wrong, but surely this isn't the first time a player has put their hands on an official in a not really aggressive manner. I feel like I'm being a devil's advocate here, but I'm not sure - if Aguero did that to a male linesman, I don't think anyone would have commented on it, but if he does it to a female linesman, people comment on it. Is it not the people commenting on it that are reacting differently to the gender of the linesperson? I don't know to be honest. None of us know whether Aguero did that because she's a woman. If I'm just unaware that touching a linesman even as casually as that is unacceptable then I'll stand corrected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Gonzo 8,183 Posted October 18, 2020 Share Posted October 18, 2020 Pepe for £70m was such highway robbery it should be investigated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Stan 18,378 Posted October 18, 2020 Author Administrator Share Posted October 18, 2020 7 hours ago, RandoEFC said: I might be wrong, but surely this isn't the first time a player has put their hands on an official in a not really aggressive manner. I feel like I'm being a devil's advocate here, but I'm not sure - if Aguero did that to a male linesman, I don't think anyone would have commented on it, but if he does it to a female linesman, people comment on it. Is it not the people commenting on it that are reacting differently to the gender of the linesperson? From another forum. Ironically Aguero is here as well Not one comment of outrage from my memory... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluewolf 7,161 Posted October 18, 2020 Share Posted October 18, 2020 12 hours ago, Lucas said: I've seen this blow up on social media having missed the incident myself. I've watched it and I don't really see it as a massive issue. I can see why people find it condescending given the culture we live in now, but same time, I genuinely don't think he meant it to come across that way. The only person whose opinion should matter is Sian Massey and if it bothered her, fair enough, if not, people shouldn't make mountains out of molehills IMO. Apparently she didn't take kindly to it and pushed his hand away... just reading about it this morning, She didn't take the matter further and just remained professional, When you watch it in real time though he certainly wouldn't have done that if it had been a male official... I think he should get a 6 game ban for that.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beelzebub 2,508 Posted October 18, 2020 Share Posted October 18, 2020 If it was Rugby or Cricket i would agree it's a big thing but football no Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFCMadLad 2,080 Posted October 18, 2020 Share Posted October 18, 2020 1 hour ago, shut up said: Liverpool fans trying to deflect away from the Keita signing Keita has been better than Pepe to be fair and cost about £20m less. Keita has been excellent in certain periods, good in others and average in others. Its unfortunate injuries that have held him back Its only really you that thinks he's a dud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Gonzo 8,183 Posted October 18, 2020 Share Posted October 18, 2020 Arsenal fans and their “hot takes” belong on that one silly YouTube channel, and there alone lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber RandoEFC+ 7,660 Posted October 18, 2020 Subscriber Share Posted October 18, 2020 Keita hasn't really justified his fee but Pepe cost more and has done less, that much should he clear to anyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber Storts+ 2,424 Posted October 18, 2020 Subscriber Share Posted October 18, 2020 This is the worst Man City team I can remember for a while and Arsenal couldn't lay a glove on them. Pepe is obviously shite and a massive waste of money. Keita hasn't been good either really considering the hype when you signed him. I feel that honestly big money signings flatter to deceive more often than not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber Dan+ 1,917 Posted October 18, 2020 Subscriber Share Posted October 18, 2020 2 minutes ago, Storts said: This is the worst Man City team I can remember for a while and Arsenal couldn't lay a glove on them. Pepe is obviously shite and a massive waste of money. Keita hasn't been good either really considering the hype when you signed him. I feel that honestly big money signings flatter to deceive more often than not The vast majority do, certainly in recent years. Ndombele's been a bit disappointing as well really although there's still time. Pogba, Maguire, Kepa, Sigurdsson some other examples and there are no doubt more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFCMadLad 2,080 Posted October 18, 2020 Share Posted October 18, 2020 Keita has never really done anything wrong in games that have cost us but he has had quite games im not going to lie. He has however been excellent in periods before injury stopped him in his tracks... rinse and repeat. Im adamant that when he gets a good run in the team injury free he will be excellent consistently for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber Storts+ 2,424 Posted October 18, 2020 Subscriber Share Posted October 18, 2020 29 minutes ago, shut up said: Pepe hasn't been great, but he hasn't been any worse than Ndombele and Lo celso either. Although he cost £20m more ofc Not sure why you lump Lo Celso in - he was our best player for periods last year. Really good player But this was largely my point. I feel like generally big money signings don’t seem to work in this league. Obviously exceptions but a lot seem to flop or fail to live up to expectations Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Blue 1,898 Posted October 18, 2020 Share Posted October 18, 2020 I do that to women all the time, if they look at me funny i just tell them i bet i can run faster than you horny than you can scared! it's a good ice breaker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 18, 2020 Share Posted October 18, 2020 It does happen a lot to referees. Whether a man should do it to a women is a different matter though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cicero 5,267 Posted October 18, 2020 Share Posted October 18, 2020 Male or female, you can’t be doing that to an official. Should’ve been carded at the very most though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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