Honey Honey 3,767 Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 The only leverage the breakaway lot have is if they can credibly threaten to leave entirely. If they can do that then the revenues of the rest of the Premier League collapse and all the shittier billionaires down the bottom half of the league will panic and accept the initial proposal. If they can't credibly threaten that, which they probably won't because it's financially best for them to have both the league and the super shite league then this whole thing falls away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaaay AFC 357 Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 18 minutes ago, Harry said: Except that by rolling over to them they doom themselves more. Their global tv rights goes up the shutter. The global audience now has a new Premier competition to be obsessed with. A very good point, but their global tv rights go up the shitter without those 6 teams. The wheels are already in motion I don't see how they stop this, so they're just going to let them continue to play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Stan 18,365 Posted April 19, 2021 Administrator Share Posted April 19, 2021 35 minutes ago, SkyBruce Championship said: Some journo said Newcastle have been earmarked as the next English club to be invited by the current 6 so maybe Arsenal will be 2nd bottom You can just imagine Bruce being up in arms about it, bemoaning the sanctity of what football used to be, then as soon as they're in, he's happy as Larry loving all the money he now has to spend... 37 minutes ago, Harry said: I can understand the club's dominating their domestic leagues being a part in it (PSG, Bayern, Juve), and clubs from lesser leagues who've struggled to compete in the Champions league (Porto, Ajax) but I don't see why the premier league clubs would do it. They are already the dominant league, and joining this league basically just puts rival clubs on a better financial footing relative to them. The money. Their owners don't have fans interests at heart. They care about their business. Their investments. Their little big vanity projects. This benefits the owners and their foreign companies. They want more. And more. And more. This satisfies their cravings to keep their bank balances as high as possible. Look at the amounts they're due to receive by being in this league compared to what they already get in the PL or CL. I read last night that just by being in this ESL, their sheer presence alone nets them 4x as much as they would get for being in the Champions League right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber RandoEFC+ 7,644 Posted April 19, 2021 Author Subscriber Share Posted April 19, 2021 35 minutes ago, SkyBruce Championship said: Some journo said Newcastle have been earmarked as the next English club to be invited by the current 6 so maybe Arsenal will be 2nd bottom This was a rumour started by an Everton fan account who likes changing his Twitter tag to be a pretend journalist and tweeting fake news in the style of a pretentious football writer. He literally did a poll on his Twitter feed on whether he should do it 30 minutes before and people still don't go to his profile to see if he's a reliable source. He managed to hook a load of Newcastle fans on rumours of Saint-Maximin moving to Everton a few months back. He routinely gets dozens of Everton fans on his hook as well. On a good day, he ends up being retweeted by a few unfortunate local journalists or those clickbait social media pages like "Indy Kaila" or whatever they're called who are so desperate to beat the real news outlets to a scoop that they just retweet everything that sounds believable without checking it. It's really top notch work, look for "thechicoazul" on Twitter. But yeah, all those conspiracy theories you read last night about the Saudi buyout being behind Newcastle's move to the European Super League and this being why Mike Ashley pushed the sale back for so long were just from this. Sorry/you're welcome . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber RandoEFC+ 7,644 Posted April 19, 2021 Author Subscriber Share Posted April 19, 2021 This has become a lose-lose situation for almost everyone involved with the exception of the "ESL" owners and those fans in Dubai and Denver that actually chat in those boxes next to your stream, who it will effectively make no difference to. If it ends up not happening at all, the fans of those big six clubs will still know how much contempt they're held in by their own football clubs. If it happens and they get to stay in the Premier League then the absurd amount of money they receive each year will increase the already huge financial disparity that allows a club to be as incompetent as Arsenal still win the odd trophy and finish in the top half by orders of magnitude and turn it into even more of a two-tier league. If it happens and they break away completely, then the Premier League will effectively cease to exist as we know it and pretty much every other top flight club will face a threat to its existence from the financial shock. As a fan, a blank slate like that for English football actually holds some appeal. I wonder if the PFA are preparing a response of some kind and that's why we've had so few players speak out about this so far. I know a lot of them aren't shy about making extra money either and that they're often perceived as out of touch but not so much that they don't know how wrong this all is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honey Honey 3,767 Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 42 minutes ago, The Palace Fan said: Got the mental image of Ant and Dec on a set saying: "If you want a team from Holland in the European Super League text AJAX to 63555!'. close Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beelzebub 2,508 Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 Will they have half time shows in the SL? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Stan 18,365 Posted April 19, 2021 Administrator Share Posted April 19, 2021 47 minutes ago, The Palace Fan said: On a positive note at least nobody is here to turn this in to a thread about Peru. 27 minutes ago, Whiskey said: You have to fear that Peruvian football will go the same way, we must do all we can to stop this. ENTER WHISKEY Think we could all do with some whiskey right now anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honey Honey 3,767 Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 5 minutes ago, McAzeem said: Will they have half time shows in the SL? Yes. Brighton will play Alaves for 10 minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Blue 1,897 Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 15 minutes ago, SkyBruce Championship said: close The number doesn't work! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ScoRoss 799 Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 1 minute ago, Happy Blue said: The number doesn't work! It's Radio X's text number Annoyingly heard it enough times in my life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smiley Culture 1,651 Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 Let’s be honest, the Premier League club chairmen aren’t going to vote to remove these six from the Premier League. As fans, we may think it’s right but the remaining fourteen chairmen, on the whole, aren’t going to differ dramatically from the six who are in the “Super League”, they’d rip your arm off for a place in this now or in the future, they’re simply not going to cut their nose off to spite their face, unfortunately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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The Palace Fan 3,400 Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 All those who mocked the Palace Brighton rivalry will now have to respect the biggest rivalry in the Premier League. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Blue 1,897 Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 United & Juventus officials have just resigned from there UEFA roles! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Stan 18,365 Posted April 19, 2021 Administrator Share Posted April 19, 2021 2 minutes ago, Happy Blue said: United & Juventus officials have just resigned from there UEFA roles! That happened as soon as this was announced last night. All 12 clubs/members/representatives resigned from their involvement in ECA as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Blue 1,897 Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 2 minutes ago, Stan said: That happened as soon as this was announced last night. All 12 clubs/members/representatives resigned from their involvement in ECA as well. Still playing catch up! ..and Outriders lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ccrriiss 0 Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 These clubs should be booted out NOW. Show them that they cannot survive without the fans and the National competitions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Palace Fan 3,400 Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 Dumbfounded by that legacy fans comment. They're literally killing everything that makes football great. What happens when people are bored of seeing the same teams play each other regularly year upon year and two thirds of the league have nothing to play for after the first six games? Top tier football will just be as dead as most major sports. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Stan 18,365 Posted April 19, 2021 Administrator Share Posted April 19, 2021 'legacy fans'. What a slap in the face that is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Honey Honey 3,767 Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 Legacy fans makes sense though. Except for Tottenham where they're just fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smiley Culture 1,651 Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 1 minute ago, The Palace Fan said: Dumbfounded by that legacy fans comment. They're literally killing everything that makes football great. What happens when people are bored of seeing the same teams play each other regularly year upon year and two thirds of the league have nothing to play for after the first six games? Top tier football will just be as dead as most major sports. This was always the case. It’s aimed at a new wave of fans, not those match attending fans here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inverted 1,776 Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 Always seemed fairly obvious. The population of Merseyside or Greater Manchester is a drop in the ocean compared to India, China, Nigeria, Indonesia or the USA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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