El Profesor 1,457 Posted July 7, 2021 Share Posted July 7, 2021 I'll be honest, I don't really care about the Copa América title, but man the thought of the argies winning it at Maracanã makes me sick. I really hope we don't lose. , Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eco 3,008 Posted July 7, 2021 Share Posted July 7, 2021 1 minute ago, El Profesor said: I'll be honest, I don't really care about the Copa América title, but man the thought of the argies winning it at Maracanã makes me sick. I really hope we don't lose. , And Messi not winning anything at the International level is somewhat humorous. And yes, I know they won the Olympics, but that is very far down the totem pole of importance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beelzebub 2,508 Posted July 7, 2021 Share Posted July 7, 2021 If they don't win this AFA should organise a Coca Cola challenge cup ( his favourite drink) invite some beatable teams and give him a good farewell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6666 1,310 Posted July 7, 2021 Share Posted July 7, 2021 These two teams combined have won 50% of all Copa Americas. Argentina with 14 and Brazil with 9. Surprisingly, Uruguay have more than both with 15. Argentina also haven't won anything since 93. Like England but 3 years longer... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cicero 5,265 Posted July 7, 2021 Share Posted July 7, 2021 Want Argentina to win but Brasil for me just a superior team, particularly in defence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeadLinesman 5,938 Posted July 7, 2021 Share Posted July 7, 2021 Just want to see Messi crying again. All hail Brasil! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eco 3,008 Posted July 10, 2021 Share Posted July 10, 2021 Colombia scores in the 94th minute to defeat Peru. Sorry @Mpache Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeadLinesman 5,938 Posted July 10, 2021 Share Posted July 10, 2021 Tapia own goal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Palace Fan 3,400 Posted July 10, 2021 Share Posted July 10, 2021 What's a Tapia? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
internationalsfan 28 Posted July 10, 2021 Share Posted July 10, 2021 Will be staying up to watch this. Copa America some times leaves me underwhelmed, and it clashing with the Euros (and 1am kick offs) hasn't helped, but a final between these two teams will always be worth watching. Interestingly FIFA are exploring the possibility of a Euros winner v Copa America winner cup match, to be introduced in 2025, it's a shame they're going to wait that long especially when playing it this winter as a test in Qatar could potentially see Argentina play England for the first time since 2005, and first competitive match since 2002. Would hope that opportunity makes them get on with it. https://www.marca.com/en/football/international-football/2021/07/04/60e219cae2704e37998b4644.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cicero 5,265 Posted July 10, 2021 Share Posted July 10, 2021 Argentina not starting Papu is a disgrace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
internationalsfan 28 Posted July 10, 2021 Share Posted July 10, 2021 Getting ready for this is with a can of red bull, cup of coffee and two bananas. Thank the god the next World Cup has no 1am kick offs. Think that applies to 2026 as well. More annoying that this blatantly could have been earlier being a Saturday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eco 3,008 Posted July 10, 2021 Share Posted July 10, 2021 2 minutes ago, internationalsfan said: Getting ready for this is with a can of red bull, cup of coffee and two bananas. Thank the god the next World Cup has no 1am kick offs. Think that applies to 2026 as well. More annoying that this blatantly could have been earlier being a Saturday. But it's not for you...it's for people on our side of the world. Same reason EPL matches start at 8am in the morning for us, and why the Euro is in the middle of the day for us tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eco 3,008 Posted July 10, 2021 Share Posted July 10, 2021 Univision has Javier Zanetti on. Christ I just got a boner biggest than the San Siro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Profesor 1,457 Posted July 10, 2021 Share Posted July 10, 2021 12 minutes ago, internationalsfan said: Getting ready for this is with a can of red bull, cup of coffee and two bananas. Thank the god the next World Cup has no 1am kick offs. Think that applies to 2026 as well. More annoying that this blatantly could have been earlier being a Saturday. It´s probably due to television ratings in Brazil, SBT and not Globo as traditionally happens has the broadcasting rights, and the primetime for TV matches here is 9 o´clock. And also because of the asian market. Asia is probably a more important market than Europe at this rate due to its larger population. But I agree a bit earlier would be better. lol Apparently AFA already knew that there would public tonight, while CBF was totally caught by suprise. Therefore, there are lot more argentinians at Maracanã. I find hilarious that fanboys who know nothing about South America think that Conmebol always favors Brazil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eco 3,008 Posted July 10, 2021 Share Posted July 10, 2021 Just now, El Profesor said: It´s probably due to television ratings in Brazil, SBT and not Globo as traditionally happens has the broadcasting rights, and the primetime for TV matches here is 9 o´clock. And also because of the asian market. Asia is probably a more important market than Europe at this rate due to its larger population. But I agree a bit earlier would be better. lol Apparently AFA already knew that there would public tonight, while CBF was totally caught by suprise. Therefore, there are lot more argentinians at Maracanã. I find hilarious that fanboys who knows nothing about South America think that Conmebol always favors Brazil. Imagine how livid fans would be if they moved the match to say....noon in order to cater to the European market. People would lose their shit and rightfully so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eco 3,008 Posted July 10, 2021 Share Posted July 10, 2021 Went for a hike this morning, and saw probably...4 Brazil jerseys and another 3-4 Argentina ones. I love this tournament and people here go absolutely nuts for it. Hoping Brazil win it. I'll go with 2-1 Brazil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eco 3,008 Posted July 10, 2021 Share Posted July 10, 2021 @El Profesor - is there a natural preference in Latin and South America for Argentina over Brazil due to the language? Watching Mexico's Univision and it's all Argentina and when one guy had the gall to say he predicted Brazil to win, he was literally booed on live TV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
internationalsfan 28 Posted July 10, 2021 Share Posted July 10, 2021 19 minutes ago, Eco said: But it's not for you...it's for people on our side of the world. Same reason EPL matches start at 8am in the morning for us, and why the Euro is in the middle of the day for us tomorrow. Tbf the Euros being in the middle of the day on a Sunday seems okay. That's a normal kick off time here... Take your point 8am matches though. Sure the 2019 Copa America kicked off 9/10pm UK time / 5pm Brazil which seems reasonable on a Saturday. Although that's 4am in Bangladesh so probably not good for conmenbol to do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eco 3,008 Posted July 10, 2021 Share Posted July 10, 2021 1 minute ago, internationalsfan said: Tbf the Euros being in the middle of the day on a Sunday seems okay. That's a normal kick off time here... Take your point 8am matches though. Sure the 2019 Copa America kicked off 9/10pm UK time / 5pm Brazil which seems reasonable on a Saturday. Yeah - because of where we are located in the globe. Matches are catered to the local market first as it should be. 8/9pm is normal for us and prime time TV. Having a match in the middle of day sucks (especially with a kid) as you can't really do anything too lengthy otherwise you'd miss the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Profesor 1,457 Posted July 10, 2021 Share Posted July 10, 2021 1 minute ago, Eco said: @El Profesor - is there a natural preference in Latin and South America for Argentina over Brazil due to the language? Watching Mexico's Univision and it's all Argentina and when one guy had the gall to say he predicted Brazil to win, he was literally booed on live TV. I´d say there is generally more of a preference for Brazil. Argentinians are considered arrogant. Recently, for example, argentinian president, Alberto Fernández, said that argentinians came from Europe, while mexicans are natives and brazilians came from the jungle. And he´s supposed to be a more progressive, leftist politician. haha This illustrates well the traditional attitude of argentinians regarding their neighbors. But I´d say in the specific case, most latin americans want Argentina to win becase of Messi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
internationalsfan 28 Posted July 10, 2021 Share Posted July 10, 2021 5 minutes ago, Eco said: Yeah - because of where we are located in the globe. Matches are catered to the local market first as it should be. 8/9pm is normal for us and prime time TV. Having a match in the middle of day sucks (especially with a kid) as you can't really do anything too lengthy otherwise you'd miss the game. I mean midday kick offs here a generally so the PL. Matches can be milked for telly both here and in Europe and Asia but let's not go there. Fans aren't particularly keen on them here, due to away travel. But yeah, good that they've put this on at 9pm local time. Must be great for all the children who care most about football, an 11.30pm possible finish. Similar argument being had here about tomorrow's Euros. An 11pm start in far Eastern Europe.... Anyway mainly watching in the hopes Brazil beat the Argentinians obviously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
internationalsfan 28 Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 Europe should take a leaf from South America here. Minutes silence a more appropriate action than some recent traditions kick off traditions over here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Profesor 1,457 Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 Paquetá's work rate is immense. Love him. Complete midfielder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eco 3,008 Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 3 minutes ago, El Profesor said: Paquetá's work rate is immense. Love him. Complete midfielder. I'm just glad he didn't work out at Milan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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