...Dan 758 Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber Viva la FCB+ 2,547 Posted March 24, 2021 Subscriber Share Posted March 24, 2021 Shocker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber Mel81x+ 3,612 Posted March 25, 2021 Subscriber Share Posted March 25, 2021 How odd and also absurd. The whole reason football is in the mess its in is because of the uncontrolled spending. Wonder what brought this on? Let me rephrase that, I wonder who threatened to stop funding XYZ if this wasnt taken away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Batard 2,534 Posted March 25, 2021 Administrator Share Posted March 25, 2021 About time. It only encouraged shady dealings and effectively maintained the status quo by stopping clubs from speculating to accumulating, within reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devil-Dick Willie 3,253 Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 Big clubs wanted FFP to stop Malaga, PSG, Man City, Anzi scenarios happening again, to stop the peasants revolting. After a few years and realizing it was in fact the Madrids, Chelseas, Barcelonas of the world who were cooking the books season after season, they've changed their minds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cicero 5,265 Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 All about amortization Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whiskey 1,187 Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 This is great news, FFP should have been fantastic but if anything it has just made things worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Gonzo 8,177 Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 FFP was already dead after they basically said "if you don't show us the evidence of violating FFP until after our statute of limitations for when we can consider such evidence doesn't exist, then FFP doesn't really matter." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beelzebub 2,508 Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 There is nothing financially fair in this world Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScoRoss 799 Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Batard 2,534 Posted August 12, 2021 Administrator Share Posted August 12, 2021 35 minutes ago, ScoRoss said: Good luck with applying luxury taxes. Not every country has reciprocal tax agreements with each other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Gonzo 8,177 Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 28 minutes ago, Batard said: Good luck with applying luxury taxes. Not every country has reciprocal tax agreements with each other. I don't think it'd be a "true tax" in that a government is collecting the tax - I think it's just a different way of saying "fines" But the thing is, to these clubs where money appears to be no object... is fining these clubs going to be effective? Or is it going to be a slap on the wrist that these clubs that throw money around can just laugh off? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Batard 2,534 Posted August 12, 2021 Administrator Share Posted August 12, 2021 2 minutes ago, Dr. Gonzo said: I don't think it'd be a "true tax" in that a government is collecting the tax - I think it's just a different way of saying "fines" But the thing is, to these clubs where money appears to be no object... is fining these clubs going to be effective? Or is it going to be a slap on the wrist that these clubs that throw money around can just laugh off? There's no way it could be a true tax and any UEFA fines would have to be agreed as part of entry into the Champions League. They're being a bit myopic here, after losing the battle with Juve, Barca and Real Madrid, they should be focussing on other routes to quell financial calamities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 13, 2021 Share Posted August 13, 2021 @DeadLinesman you're a rugby man. Anything football could learn from it? They have a salary cap in rugby dont they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeadLinesman 5,938 Posted August 13, 2021 Share Posted August 13, 2021 3 hours ago, Gunnersauraus said: @DeadLinesman you're a rugby man. Anything football could learn from it? They have a salary cap in rugby dont they? They do but it’s easy to get around. I support Warrington and it’s laughable how we can sign so many ‘superstars’ on obvious big wages. We’re financed by Simon Moran (owns SMG and runs all the biggest concerns around the world). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cicero 5,265 Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 cClubs will be limited to spending 70% of their revenue on player wages, transfers and agent fees Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coma 1,763 Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 1 hour ago, Cicero said: cClubs will be limited to spending 70% of their revenue on player wages, transfers and agent fees Sauce? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cicero 5,265 Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 51 minutes ago, Coma said: Sauce? The Athletic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coma 1,763 Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 56 minutes ago, Cicero said: The Athletic I looked there after you posted this but I didn't see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cicero 5,265 Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 5 minutes ago, Coma said: I looked there after you posted this but I didn't see it. Sorry. Meant the Times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devil-Dick Willie 3,253 Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 It's always been so odd to me. Europe, which is more economically left wing and far happier for it than the US, has such a grossly capitalist financial system in place for football, that leaves your typical capitalist top 1% in the money and everyone else in the shitter. You'd think they'd learn from their individual economic situations and convert that over. However the US for the NFL has a MUCH more fair and reasonable system that allocates resources to those most in need so that things don't get too stale. Yes, the richest clubs can always pay the salary cap, and keep more of their top players more often, but it's SO much fairer and still requires some actual brain power from the teams staff, rather than Manchester United finishing top 4 because they have a shit manager, players who can't be arsed and a vague system, but lots of money. Again, you'd think they'd learn from NFL that that's transferable to the population but again, nup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 @Devil-Dick Willie I've always thought it was a bit weird that America has better systems to make things more even than europe as well. Dont you get an earlier pick in the draft in the NFL or something if you finish lower ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devil-Dick Willie 3,253 Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 Just now, Gunnersauraus said: @Devil-Dick Willie I've always thought it was a bit weird that America has better systems to make things more even than europe as well. Dont you get an earlier pick in the draft in the NFL or something if you finish lower ? Yes. And there is salary caps, and you can swap draft picks for established players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 6 minutes ago, Devil-Dick Willie said: Yes. And there is salary caps, and you can swap draft picks for established players. I don't mind clubs being able to spend more when they make good financial decisions. But I dont like the way the system is set up to make the rich richer and the poor poorer. I think one day certain clubs may break away and form a rival organisation to fifa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber Dan+ 1,915 Posted March 24, 2022 Subscriber Share Posted March 24, 2022 6 hours ago, Devil-Dick Willie said: It's always been so odd to me. Europe, which is more economically left wing and far happier for it than the US, has such a grossly capitalist financial system in place for football, that leaves your typical capitalist top 1% in the money and everyone else in the shitter. You'd think they'd learn from their individual economic situations and convert that over. However the US for the NFL has a MUCH more fair and reasonable system that allocates resources to those most in need so that things don't get too stale. Yes, the richest clubs can always pay the salary cap, and keep more of their top players more often, but it's SO much fairer and still requires some actual brain power from the teams staff, rather than Manchester United finishing top 4 because they have a shit manager, players who can't be arsed and a vague system, but lots of money. Again, you'd think they'd learn from NFL that that's transferable to the population but again, nup. It's all about a gradual process so that people just reluctantly accept the super league. Damage the pyramid as much as possible, make the current 'product' as shit, boring and predictable as possible so that people want change, offered by the super league. This is just another version of FFP - preservation for the status quo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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