Administrator Stan 18,378 Posted June 22, 2021 Author Administrator Share Posted June 22, 2021 Pickford Walker - Maguire - Stones - Shaw Henderson Sancho - Grealish - Foden - Sterling Kane I'd be happy with that but I can't see it happening in the slightest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cicero 5,267 Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 1 minute ago, Stan said: Pickford Walker - Maguire - Stones - Shaw Henderson Sancho - Grealish - Foden Kane I'd be happy with that but I can't see it happening in the slightest. 10 players? Me neither. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redcanuck 175 Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 If Kane doesn't perform well today, I would bench him for the next game. He's either carrying an injury or he has a transfer on his mind. Doesn't seem sharpe at all. Hopefully Grealish does start and Sancho gets a decent run in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Stan 18,378 Posted June 22, 2021 Author Administrator Share Posted June 22, 2021 30 minutes ago, Cicero said: 10 players? Me neither. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MUFC 1,501 Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 I think England will win easily and it'll be like the Croatia game. Cechs won't play like Scotland did, which was to fight for every first and second ball all around the pitch. Cechs will stand off more and let England play, this should suit England more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Käiser 99 Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 21 hours ago, Dr. Gonzo said: Yeah but trying to finish second in a group for a potentially easier ride is just such a losers mentality. If you want to win an international tournament, you've got to be ready to go toe to toe with the big nations that have the expectation to progress. If a manager goes out and tries to get second, it sends a pretty shitty mental message to the players tbh - that they should be scared of good sides because they aren't good enough. I know you don't agree with the idea that we should go out of our way to end up in second place and that you think we should try to go out and win every game... so I'm really making a point against a viewpoint that I don't think anyone's really arguing here But I think with all of the question marks around Southgate's competence and the "quality" we've seen on display from this England side, I just would not be surprised if that Scotland game has made them all shit their pants a bit and think "maybe we do want to come second place in this group." And I think that's the exact wrong mentality for this squad of players to have... ...but I also think the display we saw against Scotland also demonstrated the exact sort of mentality we don't want the players to have either. My expectations are really fucking low for this one - which is probably for the best, because it'll mean that it's unlikely Southgate can find a way to disappoint me here. In euro 2016 Germany had the opportunity to win the group or finish second. They won the group which led to the bracket that included Italy Spain France and england. had they finished second, that side of the bracket included Portugal Croatia Wales Swiss. which route would you rather take? I understand that you want to have the winning mentality but at the same time you want to have a long deep tournament cuz that’s how the team will be judged for success. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Käiser 99 Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 On 21/06/2021 at 05:06, Stan said: If we finish top we get France/Portugal/Germany. So don't think it's easier. Perhaps more own goals will be scored in this match Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny 2,204 Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 1 hour ago, Stan said: Pickford Walker - Maguire - Stones - Shaw Henderson Sancho - Grealish - Foden - Sterling Kane I'd be happy with that but I can't see it happening in the slightest. Grealish on the right? Looks unbalanced between the attacking midfielders and Henderson. If you're going attacking and we don't have Mount then either Rice/Phillips plays DM and Henderson plays more advanced or Henderson plays deeper and Bellingham plays one of the attacking centre mid roles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber Pyfish+ 2,773 Posted June 22, 2021 Subscriber Share Posted June 22, 2021 Sancho should at least get some minutes if he doesn't start. Bring him on if we're looking like we need an extra something which let's be honest, we've looked like that for the majority of the 180 minutes we've played so far. Annoying that Kane looks like he'll be starting as he's been non existent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cicero 5,267 Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 Pickford Trippier---Stones---Mings---Shaw Bellingham---Rice Sancho-----Foden----Grealish Kane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Stan 18,378 Posted June 22, 2021 Author Administrator Share Posted June 22, 2021 21 minutes ago, Danny said: Grealish on the right? Looks unbalanced between the attacking midfielders and Henderson. If you're going attacking and we don't have Mount then either Rice/Phillips plays DM and Henderson plays more advanced or Henderson plays deeper and Bellingham plays one of the attacking centre mid roles Yeah when I added Sterling I should have said I mean it to be a fluid formation. I think Foden and Sterling swapped around against Scotland a couple of times. So Grealish could go more towards the left and Sterling could even play as a secondary striker to Kane if needed. Or you have Sterling and Sancho both pushed further up with Kane and then Grealish and Foden as part of a 3-man midfield with Henderson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cicero 5,267 Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 @Stan thinking Henderson is prime Makelele. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick 2,271 Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 I really don’t understand how Chilwell & Mount have to Isolate, how the whole Scotland team doesn’t? They share a dressing room, bus and fucking hotel with the lad. Absolute joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Stan 18,378 Posted June 22, 2021 Author Administrator Share Posted June 22, 2021 17 minutes ago, Cicero said: @Stan thinking Henderson is prime Makelele. I'm thinking 'fuck it let's win by scoring some goals'. Score one more than the opposition and the jobs a good'un Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inverted 1,776 Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 7 minutes ago, Rick said: I really don’t understand how Chilwell & Mount have to Isolate, how the whole Scotland team doesn’t? They share a dressing room, bus and fucking hotel with the lad. Absolute joke. I mean, if we were going to actually do the medically logical thing, the entire Scottish and English teams would need to be isolating, I think. Close exposure to a contact makes you a contact as well. So if Gilmour is a confirmed case, and Mount, for example, is a confirmed contact, then everyone exposed to Mount is also a contact. The England team would be in that sense as exposed to Gilmour as the Scottish team. But instead of doing the medically rigorous thing, or doing the common sense thing, it seems they've settled on a bizarre halfway position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber Viva la FCB+ 2,553 Posted June 22, 2021 Subscriber Share Posted June 22, 2021 11 minutes ago, Rick said: I really don’t understand how Chilwell & Mount have to Isolate, how the whole Scotland team doesn’t? They share a dressing room, bus and fucking hotel with the lad. Absolute joke. This is what gets me. They both had negative tests as well and that was their justification for the entire Scotland team not having to isolate, so wtf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cicero 5,267 Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 12 minutes ago, Rick said: I really don’t understand how Chilwell & Mount have to Isolate, how the whole Scotland team doesn’t? They share a dressing room, bus and fucking hotel with the lad. Absolute joke. Chilwell isn't a miss but you'll feel Mount's absence against France/Germany. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beelzebub 2,508 Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 Feels like a dead rubber WC Qualifier where England has already qualified Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny 2,204 Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 34 minutes ago, Stan said: Yeah when I added Sterling I should have said I mean it to be a fluid formation. I think Foden and Sterling swapped around against Scotland a couple of times. So Grealish could go more towards the left and Sterling could even play as a secondary striker to Kane if needed. Or you have Sterling and Sancho both pushed further up with Kane and then Grealish and Foden as part of a 3-man midfield with Henderson. If you're playing Henderson it either needs to be a 2 man midfield or he needs to play ahead of a holding mid, so whatever happens either him/Bellingham or Phillips/Rice and then him. Personally: Pickford Trippier - Stones - Maguire - Shaw Phillips Foden - Henderson Sancho - Calvert-Lewin - Grealish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cicero 5,267 Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 Has Mings put a foot wrong? Why are people suddenly throwing Maguire in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny 2,204 Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 Just now, Cicero said: Has Mings put a foot wrong? Why are people suddenly throwing Maguire in? Cos Southgate is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Stan 18,378 Posted June 22, 2021 Author Administrator Share Posted June 22, 2021 6 minutes ago, Cicero said: Has Mings put a foot wrong? Why are people suddenly throwing Maguire in? I think Southgate has confirmed he will be playing, along with Kane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Gonzo 8,184 Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 1 hour ago, The Käiser said: In euro 2016 Germany had the opportunity to win the group or finish second. They won the group which led to the bracket that included Italy Spain France and england. had they finished second, that side of the bracket included Portugal Croatia Wales Swiss. which route would you rather take? I understand that you want to have the winning mentality but at the same time you want to have a long deep tournament cuz that’s how the team will be judged for success. Idk tbh I've got no faith in England winning anything, at least anytime soon. I'd rather they'd have a good attitude about being able to take on anyone, rather than getting scared about playing Scotland though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Stan 18,378 Posted June 22, 2021 Author Administrator Share Posted June 22, 2021 4-2-3-1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Stan 18,378 Posted June 22, 2021 Author Administrator Share Posted June 22, 2021 Sancho should just leave the camp now. Shit all over Southgate's waistcoats on the way out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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