Subscriber RandoEFC+ 7,640 Posted July 27, 2021 Subscriber Share Posted July 27, 2021 If someone is struggling with their mental health so badly that they pull out in circumstances like this then they should receive only sympathy. It sucks for her team mates and it sucks for their first reserve who could otherwise have competed at the Olympics in her place, these are valid points to make, but I draw the line at the "mentally weak" and "true champions battle through" shouts. We've seen this with Naomi Osaka and now Simone Biles. Goodness knows how many other elite athletes have been vaguely reported as "injured" or "medical reasons" when they've found themselves unable to compete due to extreme anxiety, and we'll see more over the years to come. These athletes are the first generation to come through who haven't really known a world without social media. This isn't just a sport thing, I've been teaching teenagers for 6-7 years now and this sort of thing really doesn't surprise me at all. Even in your regular joe teenagers, mental health problems are absolutely fucking rampant now compared to even when I was in school just over a decade ago. It's becoming a cliche to shout "it's social media" nowadays, but it is social media. There are other factors such as increased prevalence of kids coming from one parent families or split parent families but really, it pretty much all comes back to social media. The generation of people reaching adulthood now have gone through a completely different experience in their social and emotional development to any of us. The constant access to social media and phones makes it pretty much impossible to shut negativity and pressure out of your life for a precious few hours. This has fucked enough adults up and now we're seeing a generation of young adults who have been raised on a diet of having about 10 apps on a device they carry around 24/7 that exists to tell them how good or bad they are, or the pictures they've taken, or the things they say. It's all fucked up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eco 3,008 Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 2 minutes ago, Dr. Gonzo said: But I think Biles may have felt some extra pressure to perform after seeing the media/social media reactions to the US losses in womens football and basketball. This is fair actually. ESPN was blowing up about USA failing at the Olympics because of our Bball team, Women's football team, and the quali part in Gymnastics. Just more unneeded pressure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Gonzo 8,174 Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 Tbh, I don't think there was much wrong with what @internationalsfanfan actually said - it's just a different opinion. The only thing I'd really take issue with is the whole "woke brigade" shite which maybe seems a bit offputting. But like... it was just an opinion and I don't think there's anything wrong with having that opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
internationalsfan 28 Posted July 27, 2021 Author Share Posted July 27, 2021 3 minutes ago, Dr. Gonzo said: Tbh, I don't think there was much wrong with what @internationalsfanfan actually said - it's just a different opinion. The only thing I'd really take issue with is the whole "woke brigade" shite which maybe seems a bit offputting. But like... it was just an opinion and I don't think there's anything wrong with having that opinion. If you can't see the issue with the fucking woke brigade, and how that's exactly what's led to this point where supposed professional athletes are crying off with mental health issues left right and centre, and nothing's ever my fault culture endemic in western society (which a lot of people use mental health as a excuse for increasingly - note that isn't aimed at Biles) then you're out of touch with the reality of the decline of western civilisation driven by a generation of softies that begat another a generation of softies. Oh how the hardy men and woman of the 1940s who gave us all the opportunity to live this life now without Hitler would be wishing they'd packed their bags and fucked off to the Bahamas for 5 years instead with what a remnants of complete self-absorbed, narcissistic and lazy twats we now have left if they'd lived long enough to see it.. Thank God Boris and Priti are about to start challenging the scumbags properly. Next bring back national service, scrap benefits and make the NHS paid out of wages - if you aren't working then you don't get health care. And if it's cos your a fat bastard, you can pay for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Stan 18,363 Posted July 27, 2021 Administrator Share Posted July 27, 2021 1 minute ago, internationalsfan said: If you can't see the issue with the fucking woke brigade, and how that's exactly what's led to this point where supposed professional athletes are crying off with mental health issues left right and centre, and nothing's ever my fault culture endemic in western society (which a lot of people use mental health as a excuse for increasingly - note that isn't aimed at Biles) then you're out of touch with the reality of the decline of western civilisation driven by a generation of softies that begat another a generation of softies. Oh how the hardy men and woman of the 1940s who gave us all the opportunity to live this life now without Hitler would be wishing they'd packed their bags and fucked off to the Bahamas for 5 years instead with what a remnants of complete self-absorbed, narcissistic and lazy twats we now have left if they'd lived long enough to see it.. who is it aimed at, then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
internationalsfan 28 Posted July 27, 2021 Author Share Posted July 27, 2021 6 minutes ago, Stan said: who is it aimed at, then? Other athletes in other sports have also pulled the 'worries me' card recently, we've literally talked about one of them in the thread above. I blame the generation sob story crap that we got with 2012 olympics and the X Factor etc, where people's problems were used to try and negate poor performance or conversely as inspiration porn, it's only logical that the next generation would go from that to using their problems as excuses. You saw that with the triathletes last night and her silver with the other woman going 'if you only knew what she'd been through' - one of the other athletes high finishing had lost a parent a few months ago and was remarkable enough for her start but no no the woman who was born into a high profile sporting family and studied sports and exercise at uni is the one with the problems that make her performance oh so special. Just fuck off with this crap and show us the events. The 2028 olympics will just be whoevers left having not pulled out with the worries me card winning eveything. At least the woke fuckers will all fall asleep soon and the sane can resurrect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScoRoss 799 Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 10 minutes ago, Dr. Gonzo said: Tbh, I don't think there was much wrong with what @internationalsfanfan actually said - it's just a different opinion. The only thing I'd really take issue with is the whole "woke brigade" shite which maybe seems a bit offputting. But like... it was just an opinion and I don't think there's anything wrong with having that opinion. https://twitter.com/amandamull/status/1420005472925532164?s=19 Far bigger reasons than sport for her to compete at these Olympics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Gonzo 8,174 Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 6 minutes ago, internationalsfan said: If you can't see the issue with the fucking woke brigade, and how that's exactly what's led to this point where supposed professional athletes are crying off with mental health issues left right and centre, and nothing's ever my fault culture endemic in western society (which a lot of people use mental health as a excuse for increasingly - note that isn't aimed at Biles) then you're out of touch with the reality of the decline of western civilisation driven by a generation of softies that begat another a generation of softies. Oh how the hardy men and woman of the 1940s who gave us all the opportunity to live this life now without Hitler would be wishing they'd packed their bags and fucked off to the Bahamas for 5 years instead with what a remnants of complete self-absorbed, narcissistic and lazy twats we now have left if they'd lived long enough to see it.. Thank God Boris and Priti are about to start challenging the scumbags properly. Next bring back national service, scrap benefits and make the NHS paid out of wages - if you aren't working then you don't get health care. And if it's cos your a fat bastard, you can pay for it. Tbf it's not the woke brigade that's brought about the decline of western civilisation. It was people who grew up without social media that got soft and cozy in the 80s that led society to the path we've been on for decades. Then social media came out and gave every idiot a megaphone and taught them their opinions are as good as everyone's facts. Now we've got a society of noisy morons who think they know best, left wing and right wing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber RandoEFC+ 7,640 Posted July 27, 2021 Subscriber Share Posted July 27, 2021 Just now, internationalsfan said: If you can't see the issue with the fucking woke brigade, and how that's exactly what's led to this point where supposed professional athletes are crying off with mental health issues left right and centre, and nothing's ever my fault culture endemic in western society (which a lot of people use mental health as a excuse for increasingly - note that isn't aimed at Biles) then you're out of touch with the reality of the decline of western civilisation driven by a generation of softies that begat another a generation of softies. Oh how the hardy men and woman of the 1940s who gave us all the opportunity to live this life now without Hitler would be wishing they'd packed their bags and fucked off to the Bahamas for 5 years instead with what a remnants of complete self-absorbed, narcissistic and lazy twats we now have left if they'd lived long enough to see it.. It always comes back to Hitler or the Nazis doesn't it? It's amazing how many people seem to have great memories of the good old days when you'd have to be well into your eighties at least to have the first memory of what things and people were actually like at the time. Good grief, Western civilisation really has declined since that time it was all at war with itself and each other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
internationalsfan 28 Posted July 27, 2021 Author Share Posted July 27, 2021 1 minute ago, Dr. Gonzo said: Tbf it's not the woke brigade that's brought about the decline of western civilisation. It was people who grew up without social media that got soft and cozy in the 80s that led society to the path we've been on for decades. Then social media came out and gave every idiot a megaphone and taught them their opinions are as good as everyone's facts. Now we've got a society of noisy morons who think they know best, left wing and right wing. Sorry, but excuse me if I don't take any heed of someone from a Iran moaning about the decline of western civilisation You wouldn't know what it was like in the first place Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Gonzo 8,174 Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 Just now, internationalsfan said: Sorry, but excuse me if I don't take any heed of someone from a Iran moaning about the decline of western civilisation You wouldn't know what it was like in the first place Bet I'm more civilised than you tbh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeadLinesman 5,938 Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 2 minutes ago, internationalsfan said: Sorry, but excuse me if I don't take any heed of someone from a Iran moaning about the decline of western civilisation You wouldn't know what it was like in the first place The Wirral does look like Iran in parts tbf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
internationalsfan 28 Posted July 27, 2021 Author Share Posted July 27, 2021 Just now, Dr. Gonzo said: Bet I'm more civilised than you tbh You might be, your country is hardly a bastion of modern Western civilisation though let's be honest. Been to any stoning's recently? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
internationalsfan 28 Posted July 27, 2021 Author Share Posted July 27, 2021 1 minute ago, DeadLinesman said: The Wirral does look like Iran in parts tbf Oh from Liebourpool then!!! The last bastion of British communism and a woke fiefdom. Iran would be an improvement on that, at least it doesn't have feral coked up kids running around stabbing eachother on the waterfront. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Stan 18,363 Posted July 27, 2021 Administrator Share Posted July 27, 2021 16 minutes ago, internationalsfan said: Thank God Boris and Priti are about to start challenging the scumbags properly. Next bring back national service, scrap benefits and make the NHS paid out of wages - if you aren't working then you don't get health care. And if it's cos your a fat bastard, you can pay for it. Wow. I thought this was not the place for such a conversation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Gonzo 8,174 Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 Just now, internationalsfan said: You might be, your country is hardly a bastion of modern Western civilisation though let's be honest. Been to any stoning's recently? Haven't seen any of those in Birkenhead yet, but maybe once your lot fully take the UK down we'll start seeing them too. It'll probably just be my family and other non-white people you'll be chucking the stones at though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber RandoEFC+ 7,640 Posted July 27, 2021 Subscriber Share Posted July 27, 2021 Hurry up and start calling people snowflakes despite you being the one having a meltdown. That's usually where things go a few posts after "woke brigade" and "fucking wokies" start rearing their heads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
internationalsfan 28 Posted July 27, 2021 Author Share Posted July 27, 2021 Just now, Stan said: Wow. I thought this was not the place for such a conversation A conversation about an individual athlete who's suffered genuine horrors in her life, the rest of society's ever declining standards are up for a shout. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Stan 18,363 Posted July 27, 2021 Administrator Share Posted July 27, 2021 Just now, internationalsfan said: A conversation about an individual athlete who's suffered genuine horrors in her life, the rest of society's ever declining standards are up for a shout. Hello ToonArmy. Liebourpool gave it away, just to let you know. The mask slipped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
internationalsfan 28 Posted July 27, 2021 Author Share Posted July 27, 2021 Just now, Stan said: Hello ToonArmy. Liebourpool gave it away, just to let you know. The mask slipped. I mean I'd have thought you'd have clocked me a week ago tbh. The same birthdate on my profile and supporting the same team would have been enough for a competent admin.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Gonzo 8,174 Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 1 minute ago, RandoEFC said: Hurry up and start calling people snowflakes despite you being the one having a meltdown. That's usually where things go a few posts after "woke brigade" and "fucking wokies" start rearing their heads. He fucking attacked my ethnicity after I fucking defended his initial comments Seriously, what the fuck is that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
internationalsfan 28 Posted July 27, 2021 Author Share Posted July 27, 2021 1 minute ago, Dr. Gonzo said: He fucking attacked my ethnicity after I fucking defended his initial comments Seriously, what the fuck is that? I didn't attack your ethnicity, I attacked a country and it's government. Learn to read. I'm many things, but I'm not a racist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Stan 18,363 Posted July 27, 2021 Administrator Share Posted July 27, 2021 1 minute ago, internationalsfan said: I mean I'd have thought you'd have clocked me a week ago tbh. The same birthdate on my profile and supporting the same team would have been enough for a competent admin.... I don't really check for everyone's birthday ffs . God forbid someone support the same team on a football forum. Bloody hell. Anyway, bye. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
internationalsfan 28 Posted July 27, 2021 Author Share Posted July 27, 2021 Just now, Stan said: I don't really check for everyone's birthday ffs . God forbid someone support the same team on a football forum. Bloody hell. Anyway, bye. Fuck you too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Gonzo 8,174 Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 1 minute ago, internationalsfan said: I didn't attack your ethnicity, I attacked a country and it's government. Learn to read. I'm many things, but I'm not a racist. You attacked my opinion based off where I'm from. I'm not a country and I'm not a government - especially not Iran's government. Learn to read, you're many things... but you're not not a racist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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