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21 minutes ago, The Palace Fan said:


If you want to binge on a good series that gets you invested in the characters and has good swerves that you do not see coming on Netflix then watch Clickbait.

Oh please.  😂

You can't post all that criticism on Squid Game only to direct the reader to bloody Clickbait. A show that notoriously has one of the most unearned plot twists in existence.

 

Having scenes of that bloke piping his mistress only to find out he never actual met her and she was texting an old lady instead? Fuck off show and your "reveal". 😂

By the way, any show that starts with characters telling each other their relation to each other (“Why thanks big brother”/“I know it’s your birthday, you’re my mum”) then 9 times out of 10 it's going to be absolute dross.

 

 

 

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17 minutes ago, The Palace Fan said:

I saw the trailer and was left confused as to why everybody seems excited over baddies that look like they're trying to sell you PlayStations at a convention and voice overs that look terrible but I thought I would give it a try anyway.

It didnt start too well as about two minutes in you quickly establish that the main character is a penis you cannot relate too. To evoke any sort of character emotion this episode they had to have a guy beat up a woman yet the main character still somehow managed to come across as more irritating when he had a confrontion with him. Then it turns out once they revealed why they're all there everybody is as stupid as the main character. That said the actual game was fun, so I might just fast forward all the back story with these idiots and just watch them get obliterated.

If you want to binge on a good series that gets you invested in the characters and has good swerves that you do not see coming on Netflix then watch Clickbait.

Clickbait in next on my list after squids.

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On 03/10/2021 at 01:18, Machado said:

The VIP pricks made me skip a few seconds when they got screen time.

I still have one episode left to watch. I don't think this is a spoiler for those who haven't watched it yet but what I'm about to say might cross the line so.

I found the VIP scenes in the episode I just watched, when they first arrived, really badly jarring. The dialogue was like a dodgy caricature of a decadent Western/American bad guy billionaire stereotype.

Like you say, it really threatened my immersion in the human drama. I can't describe it any better than that. The way they spoke was so far away from how any real person would speak that I just couldn't take it seriously and wanted those scenes over with.

I'm guessing it was written by the Korean writers. It makes me wonder whether films written in Hollywood or Europe are as painfully bad at writing Asian or Russian or foreign dialogue in general in English films. I'd expect more of them probably have the budget to get people who understand the language and the culture well enough to create more natural and believable conversations. In fact, if they were doing it themselves, I'd expect the American/British writers to do an even worse job of it if anything. But yeah, this was not a good example of that and it made me wonder just how bad it is when the boot is one the other foot. xD

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3 minutes ago, RandoEFC said:

It makes me wonder whether films written in Hollywood or Europe are as painfully bad at writing Asian or Russian or foreign dialogue in general in English films.

Russian dialogues and accents in Hollywood movies are usually comically bad; sometimes even completely incomprehensible.

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Just stumbled across this, and apparently it's accurate. Everyone who watches this dubbed should be ashamed of themselves. Please find the wall that is closest to you and bash your head against it. 

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On 11/10/2021 at 12:49, The Palace Fan said:

I saw the trailer and was left confused as to why everybody seems excited over baddies that look like they're trying to sell you PlayStations at a convention and voice overs that look terrible but I thought I would give it a try anyway.

It didnt start too well as about two minutes in you quickly establish that the main character is a penis you cannot relate too. To evoke any sort of character emotion this episode they had to have a guy beat up a woman yet the main character still somehow managed to come across as more irritating when he had a confrontion with him. Then it turns out once they revealed why they're all there everybody is as stupid as the main character. That said the actual game was fun, so I might just fast forward all the back story with these idiots and just watch them get obliterated.

If you want to binge on a good series that gets you invested in the characters and has good swerves that you do not see coming on Netflix then watch Clickbait.

He gets more likable the more you get into the show.

Although I’m not done so maybe that changes

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On 14/10/2021 at 00:21, Tommy said:

 

Just stumbled across this, and apparently it's accurate. Everyone who watches this dubbed should be ashamed of themselves. Please find the wall that is closest to you and bash your head against it. 

Thought this was a parody at first. 😅

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11 hours ago, MUFC said:

Wonder if the cop survived.

I don't think so, purely because of the fact the Squid Games are clearly still running at the end of the season. To me that means the evidence never made it to South Korea's police force

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Apparently kids have been playing the red light green light game and beating up the kids who get eliminated 😂 That seems like a game primary score kids would play. Not sure they should be watching it in the first place. I would be  a bit worried if they started doing it in America . Might actually shoot each other 

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Thought it was gripping in the middle but at one point it felt like every other K-Show I have watched over the years for the gore and violence that they exhibit in their cinema. It gave me very Battle Royale vibes at one point too, if you haven't watched that I'd also recommend giving it a go.

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0266308/

As for the dubbing, it didn't really bother me but maybe that's just because I kind of expect this from dubs when it comes to Asian cinema. Some phrases and language semantics just don't port over to other languages so getting close to it is the best they can do really.

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Good show overall imo and worth watching but thats about it.

The middle few episodes is where it hit its stride imo.. the marble episode was probably the peak. I dont like the ending at all, it only makes sense in trying to force the character to survive and be front and center in a sequel.

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Apparently squid game made netflix around $900 million. It's hard to work it out with streaming services but they estimate that based on new subscriptions and other things as well. Likely there will be a season 2 I think based on the huge viewership figures. I'd imagine a second series would have the main character from season 1 trying to stop it and another bunch of characters playing the game. Hopefully if they do make it it will be good 

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On 19/10/2021 at 17:13, Viva la FCB said:

Good show overall imo and worth watching but thats about it.

 

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I'll make it my new workout series. 

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Must say I agree with a lot of the comments here. Fantastic gripping and intense series. You get sucked in to the personalities of the characters, their agendas, their vendettas, their stories and history and motives. It makes for such a good programme to leave you wanting more. 

Having said that, was also let down by the ending (as in right at the end), but did enjoy a couple of the twists in the final episode. 

Definitely agree about the American actors 'the VIPS'. Just a waste of space and added absolutely nothing. Probably a bigger let down than with how it ended. 

Also agree about the dubbing - not a chance that could have been watched in English and had the same effect. Not fussed about the translations because they already had the desired effect for me as a viewer. 

On 19/10/2021 at 16:13, Viva la FCB said:

Good show overall imo and worth watching but thats about it.

 

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The middle few episodes is where it hit its stride imo.. the marble episode was probably the peak. I dont like the ending at all, it only makes sense in trying to force the character to survive and be front and center in a sequel.

 

Agreed. I think my favourite games were Red Light, Green Light purely because it does look just like a kids game you play and can envisage playing (minus the killing obviously). My other favourite game was the bridge one - the cinematography right at the end was brilliant. I also quite like the character of Sae-Byeok, you grow to like a lot of them to be fair.

On 28/09/2021 at 14:49, Cicero said:

Finished. 9/10. 

Fantastic and one of the most hooked Netflix series I've watched since 'You". Props to the beautiful cinematography and acting/character development we witness throughout the show. Totally invested in the characters. 

 

@nudge This might be up your alley. 

 

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Agreed!

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On 27/10/2021 at 00:06, Stan said:

Definitely agree about the American actors 'the VIPS'. Just a waste of space and added absolutely nothing. Probably a bigger let down than with how it ended. 

I don't agree that they added absolutely nothing, I think in a show that's got a whole lot of social commentary in it... the juxtaposition between the contestant in the games & the billionaires that are funding the game by their gambling, who sure are definitely stereotypes of American out-of-touch billionaires (with one Chinese billionaire), provides a pretty striking bit of social commentary about the wealth gap and ultimately about the games billionaires play with the lives and livelihood of the rest of society.

They aren't meant to be relatable or likeable. They're meant to be out of touch, callous, sinful, etc... Their dialogue is unnatural and weird, but their lack of general humanity that the show is trying to convey should also feel unnatural and weird. So to me, that strange dialogue fits in what the show is trying to convey.

They also serve as the answer to the question of: why and how these games are happening and how they're funded. I can't be the only one who questioned: "why would rich Koreans do this?" or "who the hell is financing this, how could they get away with it?" - and the answer is revealed by the VIPs. The why and how are explained by saying the games (which it is revealed aren't just in Korea) are basically like horse races for the world's elite to place bets on.

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20 minutes ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

I don't agree that they added absolutely nothing, I think in a show that's got a whole lot of social commentary in it... the juxtaposition between the contestant in the games & the billionaires that are funding the game by their gambling, who sure are definitely stereotypes of American out-of-touch billionaires (with one Chinese billionaire), provides a pretty striking bit of social commentary about the wealth gap and ultimately about the games billionaires play with the lives and livelihood of the rest of society.

 

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They aren't meant to be relatable or likeable. They're meant to be out of touch, callous, sinful, etc... Their dialogue is unnatural and weird, but their lack of general humanity that the show is trying to convey should also feel unnatural and weird. So to me, that strange dialogue fits in what the show is trying to convey.

They also serve as the answer to the question of: why and how these games are happening and how they're funded. I can't be the only one who questioned: "why would rich Koreans do this?" or "who the hell is financing this, how could they get away with it?" - and the answer is revealed by the VIPs. The why and how are explained by saying the games (which it is revealed aren't just in Korea) are basically like horse races for the world's elite to place bets on.

 

I see what you're saying, I just think it was over-egged for a whole episode. And in doing that, they over-egged the way the VIPs are. I suppose the irony in the juxtaposition is that the rest of the show was 8/9 out of 10. But then that episode and the actors were about a 3.

The only way I would say it gave weight to the series is incorporating Jun-Ho, and slowly seeing the Front Man continue to clock there's something amiss with this 'unknown'. It gives reason for him to continue chasing. 

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1 hour ago, Stan said:

I see what you're saying, I just think it was over-egged for a whole episode. And in doing that, they over-egged the way the VIPs are. I suppose the irony in the juxtaposition is that the rest of the show was 8/9 out of 10. But then that episode and the actors were about a 3.

The only way I would say it gave weight to the series is incorporating Jun-Ho, and slowly seeing the Front Man continue to clock there's something amiss with this 'unknown'. It gives reason for him to continue chasing. 

I think the over-egged way the VIPs are is also sort of a reflection of how a Korean guy who's written a show critiquing capitalism is using them as a way of critiquing the west - which, while America doesn't represent the entirety of the west... American media culture is so widespread among the western world. You aren't alone in your thinking of the way the VIPs portray American/western culture in the show. But I think part of what so many dislike about them is it's a pretty jarring interpretation of a culture we're used to consuming entertainment from so often.

You can see on social media that some Americans were pretty offended xD - but I think of these people as the same as the Koreans who were offended that the subtitles were "an erasure of Korean culture"... just people looking to be offended by something without having good reason to actually be offended.

Apparently their lines in English came straight from a google translate of the original Korean lines for them xD - so that might have something to do with their dialogue feeling a bit wonky.

I thought with Jun-Ho, his storyline is actually a bit weird. He does a good job of building up suspense, he uncovers some interesting information about his missing brother (which weirdly, my wife predicted on just the 2nd episode and I have no idea how she figured that out tbh)... but in terms of his role in the overall plot, his storyline doesn't have all that much that directly relates to the Gi-Hun's story arch which is clearly the main story arch.

It could be, like

@MUFCsuggested, he's still alive and his story isn't let over - personally, I think it's unlikely he survived... but who knows, I think there will be a second season to build off the success this had
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8 hours ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

I think the over-egged way the VIPs are is also sort of a reflection of how a Korean guy who's written a show critiquing capitalism is using them as a way of critiquing the west - which, while America doesn't represent the entirety of the west... American media culture is so widespread among the western world. You aren't alone in your thinking of the way the VIPs portray American/western culture in the show. But I think part of what so many dislike about them is it's a pretty jarring interpretation of a culture we're used to consuming entertainment from so often.

You can see on social media that some Americans were pretty offended xD - but I think of these people as the same as the Koreans who were offended that the subtitles were "an erasure of Korean culture"... just people looking to be offended by something without having good reason to actually be offended.

Apparently their lines in English came straight from a google translate of the original Korean lines for them xD - so that might have something to do with their dialogue feeling a bit wonky.

I thought with Jun-Ho, his storyline is actually a bit weird. He does a good job of building up suspense, he uncovers some interesting information about his missing brother (which weirdly, my wife predicted on just the 2nd episode and I have no idea how she figured that out tbh)... but in terms of his role in the overall plot, his storyline doesn't have all that much that directly relates to the Gi-Hun's story arch which is clearly the main story arch.

 

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It could be, like

@MUFCsuggested, he's still alive and his story isn't let over - personally, I think it's unlikely he survived... but who knows, I think there will be a second season to build off the success this had

 

I think he's dead, but the photos and videos he took eventually reach the police back home, or his phone is found. I think there's a reason we never see him or the phone at the bottom of the cliff. There's no way he can be alive. 

Also, props to your wife. I guessed that too ;). Don't ask why, but a hunch perhaps! 

Great minds haha. 

I don't mind story arches that are secondary to the main one. Anyone thinking Jun-Ho was the main one and takes precedents over Gi Hun's is just silly. In saying that, I think his storyline offers enough to be valuable to the game/series.

 

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13 hours ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

I don't agree that they added absolutely nothing, I think in a show that's got a whole lot of social commentary in it... the juxtaposition between the contestant in the games & the billionaires that are funding the game by their gambling, who sure are definitely stereotypes of American out-of-touch billionaires (with one Chinese billionaire), provides a pretty striking bit of social commentary about the wealth gap and ultimately about the games billionaires play with the lives and livelihood of the rest of society.

 

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They aren't meant to be relatable or likeable. They're meant to be out of touch, callous, sinful, etc... Their dialogue is unnatural and weird, but their lack of general humanity that the show is trying to convey should also feel unnatural and weird. So to me, that strange dialogue fits in what the show is trying to convey.

They also serve as the answer to the question of: why and how these games are happening and how they're funded. I can't be the only one who questioned: "why would rich Koreans do this?" or "who the hell is financing this, how could they get away with it?" - and the answer is revealed by the VIPs. The why and how are explained by saying the games (which it is revealed aren't just in Korea) are basically like horse races for the world's elite to place bets on.

 

That all being said, they made a mistake giving dialogue to people who are objectively very bad at acting.

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Overall, I enjoyed the show but the finale did have some unnecessary moments. The twist was more of a negative than it being something interesting. He also looked ridiculous after dying his hair, it was completely random and didn't fit the show at all. If they took those 2 things out, it would've been much better.

Need a Thelma & Louise type show/film with the actresses that played 067 & 240.

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On 13/10/2021 at 23:21, Tommy said:

 

Just stumbled across this, and apparently it's accurate. Everyone who watches this dubbed should be ashamed of themselves. Please find the wall that is closest to you and bash your head against it. 

Dubbed versions are never acceptable unless someone has a legitimate reason for it like dyslexia or some type of learning difficulty. It pretty much makes everyone look like terrible actors.

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14 hours ago, Tommy said:

7 episodes in. 

 

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Ali getting screwed over and killed was the saddest fucking thing, man.

 

 

11 hours ago, Devil said:

Was awful that.

That's the beauty of pulling you into to relate or associate with each character, and sympathise with their struggles. Suck you in and then have that 'twist' in the detail/content you mention. Timed perfectly because if you've made it that far in to the series, you're bound to be invested enough in at least one of the characters to then feel the effect of what happens.

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