Administrator Stan 18,365 Posted October 14, 2021 Administrator Share Posted October 14, 2021 Kick-off 12.30 (BST) Live on BT Sport VS Last 3 Meetings 29/02/2020 - Watford 3-0 Liverpool 14/12/2019 - Liverpool 2-0 Watford 27/02/2019 - Liverpool 5-0 Watford Recent Form Watford - LDLWL Liverpool - DWDWW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFCMike 3,009 Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 No Alisson or Fabinho is a big blow. Don't think Thiago is back in full training yet either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber RandoEFC+ 7,644 Posted October 14, 2021 Subscriber Share Posted October 14, 2021 I was going to say it's only Watford you'll be fine but then saw and remembered the 3-0 from last time at Vicarage Road. I still doubt that lightning strikes twice but I suppose they might have a bit of a new manager bounce and be buoyed by Liverpool missing a couple of players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick 2,271 Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 Shame this fixture has came around so early. After the last fixture at their spot I was hoping for us to give them a good hiding. Without Alisson & Fab that proves a lot more difficult. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Gonzo 8,177 Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 No Alisson or Fabinho is absolute shit, tbh. Rubbish scheduling of internationals, well done CBF/CONMEBOL/whoever else is to blame . But at least we have Trent back. Not gonna lie, I think sides like Watford with a new manager are the worst kinds of teams for us to face really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFCMike 3,009 Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 Milner, Henderson, Keita midfield? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFCMike 3,009 Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 Klopp's not happy with the Jones injury "It's really difficult to get proper in contact even with the English federation because they just do what they want. "Curtis didn't train, then wasn't involved in the first game. They didn't do a scan or whatever, then he played a few minutes in the second game. "Who were the opponents? Andorra? Great. Very important that he played there. "He came back and has a slight injury and is not available for tomorrow. "These are the situations we have to deal with. That's why we have these massive squads so we can use players like machines. "I've said it before, but when the federations don't start helping us - and I mean all of them, the Premier League, the FA - they have to think about the game again and not only about their own interests. "I am six years here and we talk about it and it makes no sense, but nobody obviously is listening." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Stan 18,365 Posted October 15, 2021 Author Administrator Share Posted October 15, 2021 Very disrespectful to Andorra. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reluctant Striker 134 Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 The Andorra comment in particular is the sort of attitude that I believe does rile certain people in certain smaller places of the world. Sounds like he got carried away with the everyone is clearly against Liverpool winning narrative he seems to enjoy. Also seems to be a big slight on Rice, Phillips, Ward-Prowse, because as & when Jones starts for England, it's probably against one of the weaker teams. Different clubs go through a phase of seemingly having an injury jinx. It has been Liverpool for a while now. It's really not a conspiracy from what I see & hear though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Stan 18,365 Posted October 15, 2021 Author Administrator Share Posted October 15, 2021 1 hour ago, Reluctant Striker said: The Andorra comment in particular is the sort of attitude that I believe does rile certain people in certain smaller places of the world. Sounds like he got carried away with the everyone is clearly against Liverpool winning narrative he seems to enjoy. Also seems to be a big slight on Rice, Phillips, Ward-Prowse, because as & when Jones starts for England, it's probably against one of the weaker teams. Different clubs go through a phase of seemingly having an injury jinx. It has been Liverpool for a while now. It's really not a conspiracy from what I see & hear though. It's the worst injury crisis in the history of football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFCMadLad 2,080 Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 2 hours ago, Stan said: Very disrespectful to Andorra. What he's saying is its not a really important game, and given that the player hadn't even trained after missing the first game through injury.. it was pretty fucking stupid putting him on. Anyone with half a brain can see what Klopps saying is right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cicero 5,265 Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 Shouldn’t he of been returned back to the club from international duty if he was injured? That seems to be the regular process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Stan 18,365 Posted October 15, 2021 Author Administrator Share Posted October 15, 2021 50 minutes ago, LFCMadLad said: What he's saying is its not a really important game, and given that the player hadn't even trained after missing the first game through injury.. it was pretty fucking stupid putting him on. Anyone with half a brain can see what Klopps saying is right. I wasn't being serious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 I've heard klopp is making excuses again. All top teams loose players to injury because of internationals it's a part of the game. International football is important to Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Gonzo 8,177 Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 9 minutes ago, Gunnersauraus said: I've heard klopp is making excuses again. All top teams loose players to injury because of internationals it's a part of the game. International football is important to Klopp and the club have several issues with how our FA has operated with regards to our players - the newest one is with Curtis Jones where what should have happened would have been this: 4 hours ago, Cicero said: Shouldn’t he of been returned back to the club from international duty if he was injured? That seems to be the regular process. But that isn't what happened, so Klopp and the club are annoyed that the FA 1.) didn't tell us the extent of the injury; 2.) didn't release him back so he can begin whatever his recovery process is in accordance with how Liverpool gets injured players back up and running. I think any manager would be annoyed with the FA in this situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 @Dr. Gonzo I haven't even looked into the details to be honest. But klopp is known for making ridiculous excuses so I just thought it was one of those Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFCMike 3,009 Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 22 minutes ago, Gunnersauraus said: @Dr. Gonzo I haven't even looked into the details to be honest. But klopp is known for making ridiculous excuses so I just thought it was one of those 'i haven't looked into it but I'm just going to spout shite anyway' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber Dan+ 1,915 Posted October 15, 2021 Subscriber Share Posted October 15, 2021 On 14/10/2021 at 13:52, RandoEFC said: I was going to say it's only Watford you'll be fine but then saw and remembered the 3-0 from last time at Vicarage Road. I still doubt that lightning strikes twice but I suppose they might have a bit of a new manager bounce and be buoyed by Liverpool missing a couple of players. New manager bounce and the early kick off too? There's only one way this result is heading I'm afraid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 38 minutes ago, LFCMike said: 'i haven't looked into it but I'm just going to spout shite anyway' Well he does have a record of coming out with ridiculous excuses. Its understandable I thought it was probably just another one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devil-Dick Willie 3,253 Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 Klopps comments are bullshit TBH. Fact of the matter is, that if ANYONE got injured against Andorra their club would say the same. And to that I'll just say: Well someone fucking had to play them! Obviously you're not going to put out Kane, Hendo, Sterling and the like. So that leaves players like Lingard and Jones to pick up the pieces. Cry me a river Klopp, a second string England player played for some minutes and now your second string midfielder misses a game. You'd not give a fuck if your best midfield was available. I'd love to be a fly on the wall at Liverpool training right now. See their S&C routine because fuck me they've had a crisis recently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFCMike 3,009 Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 1 minute ago, Devil-Dick Willie said: Klopps comments are bullshit TBH. Fact of the matter is, that if ANYONE got injured against Andorra their club would say the same. And to that I'll just say: Well someone fucking had to play them! Obviously you're not going to put out Kane, Hendo, Sterling and the like. So that leaves players like Lingard and Jones to pick up the pieces. Cry me a river Klopp, a second string England player played for some minutes and now your second string midfielder misses a game. You'd not give a fuck if your best midfield was available. I'd love to be a fly on the wall at Liverpool training right now. See their S&C routine because fuck me they've had a crisis recently. Jones wasn't called up for the senior side. What's bullshit about it? He was unable to train, missed a game and then played against Andorra. Love how you know how it all works between Liverpool and the English FA, do tell us more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devil-Dick Willie 3,253 Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 4 minutes ago, LFCMike said: Jones wasn't called up for the senior side. What's bullshit about it? He was unable to train, missed a game and then played against Andorra. Love how you know how it all works between Liverpool and the English FA, do tell us more England commits to international tournaments They need to qualify however They use professional players who are English to achieve this Some clubs are more successful than others, and thus have more desirable players One such club is Liverpool. So England ask the player to play He says yes Oh no! He got a boo boo in training! But! He passes a fitness test on match day or the day before He is cleared to play by people who specialize in this area He plays Oh no! he reaggravates it Now he can't play his game for Liverpool. Want me to give you some milk and tuck you in now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Gonzo 8,177 Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 8 minutes ago, Devil-Dick Willie said: He is cleared to play by people who specialize in this area Bold move expecting the FA to hire competent people tbh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFCMike 3,009 Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 8 hours ago, Devil-Dick Willie said: England commits to international tournaments They need to qualify however They use professional players who are English to achieve this Some clubs are more successful than others, and thus have more desirable players One such club is Liverpool. So England ask the player to play He says yes Oh no! He got a boo boo in training! But! He passes a fitness test on match day or the day before He is cleared to play by people who specialize in this area He plays Oh no! he reaggravates it Now he can't play his game for Liverpool. Want me to give you some milk and tuck you in now? He didn't need to play against Andorra if he'd already had an injury Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devil-Dick Willie 3,253 Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 1 hour ago, LFCMike said: He didn't need to play against Andorra if he'd already had an injury He would have asked to though. I guarantee it, and if he's been medically cleared then it's in the managers best interest to do so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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