Inverted 1,776 Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 Just finished that, and into this: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pugwash 51 Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 On 14/01/2021 at 13:34, CaaC (John) said: A new John Grisham novel just bought in Tesco's Camino Winds (2020) for my bedtime read. Reveal hidden contents “In American icon, John Grisham’s new novel, Camino Winds, an odd assortment of mystery and crime authors, some of them felons themselves, discover one of their colleagues has been murdered during the fury of a massive hurricane—the perfect crime scene..." How was it John ? A friend handed it in recently but tbh, although I love reading books, I seem to be struggling atm. One of my favourite authors is Stuart McBride (Logan MaCrae novels) but his recent on about an ex Detective Ash Henderson is quite hard to follow. New one coming out end of April by a Glasgow author Alan Park....I've read his first three about detective Harry McCoy (based in 1970's Glasgow)....brilliant mate. They're along the lines of Laidlaw by William McIllvaney (RIP) . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber CaaC (John)+ 5,358 Posted March 19, 2021 Subscriber Share Posted March 19, 2021 (edited) 34 minutes ago, Pugwash said: How was it John ? A friend handed it in recently but tbh, although I love reading books, I seem to be struggling atm. One of my favourite authors is Stuart McBride (Logan MaCrae novels) but his recent on about an ex Detective Ash Henderson is quite hard to follow. New one coming out end of April by a Glasgow author Alan Park....I've read his first three about detective Harry McCoy (based in 1970's Glasgow)....brilliant mate. They're along the lines of Laidlaw by William McIllvaney (RIP) . I was a wee bit disappointed in it tbh as it was not Grisham at his best and it was a bit long and drawn out but the ending was not that bad. Edited March 19, 2021 by CaaC (John) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pugwash 51 Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 22 minutes ago, CaaC (John) said: I was a wee bit disappointed in it tbh as it was not Grisham at his best and it was a bit long and drawn out but the ending was not that bad. I actually preferred his early works, The Rain maker and The Street Lawyer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scouse_Mouse 111 Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 1 hour ago, CaaC (John) said: I was a wee bit disappointed in it tbh as it was not Grisham at his best and it was a bit long and drawn out but the ending was not that bad. It might have helped if you'd read Camino Island first John. I love the Grisham books, although you can only read a couple in a row as (to me me at least) they always seem similar plots and characters. We all must be reading more these days, I'm enjoying the Harlen Coben books right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Subscriber CaaC (John)+ 5,358 Posted March 20, 2021 Subscriber Share Posted March 20, 2021 11 hours ago, Scouse_Mouse said: It might have helped if you'd read Camino Island first John. I love the Grisham books, although you can only read a couple in a row as (to me me at least) they always seem similar plots and characters. We all must be reading more these days, I'm enjoying the Harlen Coben books right now. I will take you up on that one and read the first one, I still like Grisham as he is one of my favourite authors, the best novel of his, to me, is The Pelican Brief my favourite authors are... Lee Child (Jack Reacher) Robert Ludlam John Grisham Jack Higgins Michael Crichton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scouse_Mouse 111 Posted March 20, 2021 Share Posted March 20, 2021 4 hours ago, CaaC (John) said: I will take you up on that one and read the first one, I still like Grisham as he is one of my favourite authors, the best novel of his, to me, is The Pelican Brief my favourite authors are... Lee Child (Jack Reacher) Robert Ludlam John Grisham Jack Higgins Michael Crichton Did you read Grisham's recent "Sycamore Row"? It catches up with Jake Brigance the lawyer from "A Time to Kill" another good read. I've read most of the others you have listed at one time or another. Stephen King though still my favourite though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber CaaC (John)+ 5,358 Posted March 20, 2021 Subscriber Share Posted March 20, 2021 1 minute ago, Scouse_Mouse said: Did you read Grisham's recent "Sycamore Row"? It catches up with Jake Brigance the lawyer from "A Time to Kill" another good read. I've read most of the others you have listed at one time or another. Stephen King though still my favourite though. It rings a bell and it was released in 2013 so it might be buried somewhere in my room as I am a bit of a book worm, I have read a few of Kings books but I can't say I am a fan of his, I can take him or leave him, I don't mind James Herbert either and 'The Fog' & 'The Rats' were good reads but it is the same old story to me when they make a film of the novel, the books are far better than the films. You can't beat Lee Child and the character Jack Reacher, I have all his books except for a couple of short story ones, his last book 'The Sentinel' was co-written by his son Andrew so it's nice to know someone is following after his old man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber CaaC (John)+ 5,358 Posted March 31, 2021 Subscriber Share Posted March 31, 2021 Just finished his EENY MEENY book and this has just arrived via Amazon, getting to like this guy and his character D I Helen Grace. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber nudge+ 15,324 Posted April 11, 2021 Subscriber Share Posted April 11, 2021 Currently reading Milton Osborne's River Road to China. Started this one a few years ago but never finished it... So decided to start it again. Documents the epic - and little known - Mekong exploration expedition of 1866-1868. In 1866, six Frenchmen led by Lagrée and Garnier set out on a dangerous mission to seek a trade route up the Mekong. During the two years that followed, they would journey through the tropical heat of the swamps of Vietnam and Cambodia to the bitter cold of the mountain ranges of southwestern China, finally arriving in Shanghai and mapping over 5,800 km of previously unknown terrain. A grand tale of adventure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluewolf 7,161 Posted April 11, 2021 Share Posted April 11, 2021 9 minutes ago, nudge said: Started this one a few years ago but never finished it. How many chapters does it have then??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber nudge+ 15,324 Posted April 11, 2021 Subscriber Share Posted April 11, 2021 1 minute ago, Bluewolf said: How many chapters does it have then??? It's actually not a huge book, only around 300 pages... But I have a terribly long list of books I want to read, and I also usually read more than one book at a time, so sometimes I lose track of it and forget to keep on reading... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber CaaC (John)+ 5,358 Posted April 12, 2021 Subscriber Share Posted April 12, 2021 11 hours ago, nudge said: It's actually not a huge book, only around 300 pages... But I have a terribly long list of books I want to read, and I also usually read more than one book at a time, so sometimes I lose track of it and forget to keep on reading... I find myself doing that, I might find a book in a box or on a shelf as I have tons of books, with a page marker in-between, I will then scratch my head trying to remember what it was about then started reading it all over again. There is only one book in my entire life that I have tried to read and just could not finish it is the Holy Bible, I think I got up to the bit where Cain killed Abel and was banished to the Land of Nod...where he got married, I remember saying to myself "Who the FUCK did he marry if Adam, Eve, Cain & Able were the only living beings on the planet Earth?..." 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber nudge+ 15,324 Posted April 12, 2021 Subscriber Share Posted April 12, 2021 8 hours ago, CaaC (John) said: I find myself doing that, I might find a book in a box or on a shelf as I have tons of books, with a page marker in-between, I will then scratch my head trying to remember what it was about then started reading it all over again. There is only one book in my entire life that I have tried to read and just could not finish it is the Holy Bible, I think I got up to the bit where Cain killed Abel and was banished to the Land of Nod...where he got married, I remember saying to myself "Who the FUCK did he marry if Adam, Eve, Cain & Able were the only living beings on the planet Earth?..." I had a children edition Bible (we got it as a gift at religion class at school), then later read the full version. Actually a good read, in my opinion, even though I'm not religious. The stories are pretty cool... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber CaaC (John)+ 5,358 Posted April 13, 2021 Subscriber Share Posted April 13, 2021 (edited) 21 hours ago, nudge said: I had a children edition Bible (we got it as a gift at religion class at school), then later read the full version. Actually a good read, in my opinion, even though I'm not religious. The stories are pretty cool... Not for me, I'm afraid, I remember reading Erich Von Daniken's Chariots of the Gods or was God an Astronaut made me think, I know a lot of his theories have now been debunked but when you look at the building of the Pyramids, Stonehenge, Moai of the Easter Islands, the Piri Reis Map, the Aztec lines are really a mystery, then you see drawings in caves of what looks like astronauts in space suits. Imagine if we discovered a planet in years to come where we can travel light-years away and there was a form of life with different oxygen levels like we have here on Earth, we could not breathe their air so we had space suits on and crafts that we could help them build structures and then they would worship us as Gods from above, and that planet would suddenly evolve like Earth over the years and we flew away to let them get on with it. I know that sounds a bit like science fiction but you never know, the stones that built the Pyramids weighed tonnes yet they managed to build them, what if was a form of an alien helping them...'Beam me up, Scotty'. Edited April 13, 2021 by CaaC (John) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber nudge+ 15,324 Posted April 13, 2021 Subscriber Share Posted April 13, 2021 On 13/04/2021 at 16:06, CaaC (John) said: Not for me, I'm afraid, I remember reading Erich Von Daniken's Chariots of the Gods or was God an astronaut made me think, I know a lot of his theories have now been debunked but when you look at the building of the Pyramids, Stonehenge, Moai of the Easter Islands, the Piri Reis Map, the Aztec lines are really a mystery, then you see drawings in caves of what looks like astronauts in space suits. Imagine if we discovered a planet in years to come where we can travel light-years away and there was a form of life with different oxygen levels like we have here on Earth, we could not breathe their air so we had space suits on and crafts that we could help them build structures and then they would worship us as Gods from above, and that planet would suddenly evolve like Earth over the years and we flew away to let them get on with it. I know that sounds a bit like science fiction but you never know, the stones that built the Pyramids weighed tonnes yet they managed to build them, what if was a form of an alien helping them...'Beam me up, Scotty'. To be honest, the plausibility of the ancient aliens theory is about equal to that of religion... Both are the result of human imagination, tendency to look for patterns everywhere, even where there are none, and projecting our biases onto them. It's pseudoscience and baseless speculation - cool idea for speculative science fiction, though. Personally, I hate hearing about how aliens built the Pyramids, taught us cool things, etc. mostly because it suggests that "primitive ancient humans" weren't capable of actually accomplishing things on their own. Yes, they weren't as technologically advanced as we are, but they were not stupid, they had their own, efficient ways of doing things, and they most definitely knew what they were doing. It's not a mystery, we know how those grand engineering structures were built, and suggesting that it was due to some extraterrestrial intervention is taking the credit away from the amazing cultures who actually did it, while also downplaying tens of thousands of years of human ingenuity... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber CaaC (John)+ 5,358 Posted April 13, 2021 Subscriber Share Posted April 13, 2021 (edited) 45 minutes ago, nudge said: To be honest, the plausibility of the ancient aliens theory is about equal to that of religion... Both are the result of human imagination, tendency to look for patterns everywhere, even where there are none, and projecting our biases onto them. It's pseudoscience and baseless speculation - cool idea for speculative science fiction, though. Personally, I hate hearing about how aliens built the Pyramids, taught us cool things, etc. mostly because it suggests that "primitive ancient humans" weren't capable of actually accomplishing things on their own. Yes, they weren't as technologically advanced as we are, but they were not stupid, they had their own, efficient ways of doing things, and they most definitely knew what they were doing. It's not a mystery, we know how those grand engineering structures were built, and suggesting that it was due to some intraterrestrial intervention is taking the credit away from the amazing cultures who actually did it, while also downplaying tens of thousands of years of human ingenuity... I know, that's why I put Data in there laughing at my thoughts No, I am sure I read how they transported the stones down canals built in the sands on ships or big barges plus they had thousands of slaves in those days, say, 100 slaves pulling the stones on wooden slabs on rollers along the route to the pyramids, there were a lot of slaves dying in those days so all the Egyptians would do was replace them with others. When I worked in a tyre remould place down South years ago when the gaffa bought a new mould for his tyres there were specialist guys used for moving the moulds that weighed tons but they moved them on rollers underneath, 2 guys in front would lay roller slabs on the ground and forklift in front would pull the mould along, so you can think back to the Pyramid days they did something similar but slaves pulling the stones on wooden roller casts. Edited April 13, 2021 by CaaC (John) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber CaaC (John)+ 5,358 Posted April 13, 2021 Subscriber Share Posted April 13, 2021 @nudge A bit off-topic but you can get books on this too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber nudge+ 15,324 Posted April 13, 2021 Subscriber Share Posted April 13, 2021 9 minutes ago, CaaC (John) said: I know, that's why I put Data in there laughing at my thoughts No, I am sure I read how they transported the stones down canals built in the sands on ships or big barges plus they had thousands of slaves in those days, say, 100 slaves pulling the stones on wooden slabs on rollers along the route to the pyramids, there were a lot of slaves dying in those days so all the Egyptians would do was replace them with others. When I worked in a tyre remould place down South years ago when the gaffa bought a new mould for his tyres there were specialist guys used for moving the moulds that weighed tons but they moved them on rollers underneath, 2 guys in front would lay roller slabs on the ground and forklift in front would pull the mould along, so you can think back to the Pyramid days they did something similar but slaves pulling the stones on wooden roller casts. That's actually a misconception - people who built the pyramids weren't slaves, they were Egyptian workers (thought to be recruited farmers) who were paid and treated very well. There were entire "villages" purpose-built for those workers nearby the construction sites, they slept in long dormitories and were fed abundant amounts of bread and best cuts of meat, drank beer, their injuries were attended to by medical professionals, and if they died, they were burried respectfully and their tombs contained everything that was thought as needed for a good afterlife. Some of the manpower came from the system called Corvee, where those who couldn't pay their annual taxes were required to travel and work for the state for a specific period of time once a year, when harvesting in the fields wasn't being done. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Whiskey 1,187 Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 (edited) Didn't have @nudgedown as an Egyptian slave denier, absolutely disgusting. Edited April 13, 2021 by Whiskey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluewolf 7,161 Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 50 minutes ago, nudge said: That's actually a misconception - people who built the pyramids weren't slaves Is this not a slave being beaten for working too slowly or is it some kinky Egyptian threesome??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber nudge+ 15,324 Posted April 13, 2021 Subscriber Share Posted April 13, 2021 4 minutes ago, Bluewolf said: Is this not a slave being beaten for working too slowly or is it some kinky Egyptian threesome??? This is obviously a scene depicting human sacrifice to appease the three-clawed alien lobsters and acquire their pyramid-building knowledge. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beelzebub 2,508 Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 On 13/04/2021 at 22:51, nudge said: This is obviously a scene depicting human sacrifice to appease the three-clawed alien lobsters and acquire their pyramid-building knowledge. Delete it before they start monitoring us Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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