SirBalon 2,692 Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 So, Jamie Carragher has brought up this interesting debate in Twitter and it seems that it’s off the back of a Harry Kane performance (haven’t seen it so can’t comment). but it’s a fun and interesting debate in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirBalon 2,692 Posted April 4, 2022 Author Share Posted April 4, 2022 Here goes my 10 pence worth on the debate... - Alfredo di Stéfano - Leo Messi - Karim Benzema - Dennis Bergkamp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike 5,100 Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 All of them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber Storts+ 2,424 Posted April 4, 2022 Subscriber Share Posted April 4, 2022 Harry Kane is sensational - just gets better and better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Stan 18,366 Posted April 4, 2022 Administrator Share Posted April 4, 2022 6 minutes ago, Storts said: Harry Kane is sensational - just gets better and better It's a shame he'll go his whole career without winning anything Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber Storts+ 2,424 Posted April 4, 2022 Subscriber Share Posted April 4, 2022 Just now, Stan said: It's a shame he'll go his whole career without winning anything He will win the World Cup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirBalon 2,692 Posted April 4, 2022 Author Share Posted April 4, 2022 9 minutes ago, Storts said: He will win the World Cup Well if that happens, there are many names that are on many of the most important lists throughout the game’s history that didn’t manage that feat. That would be something special... He’s no where near the historic names in this sense atm, but if he manages to translate those attributes to England winning the World Cup... Well, then it’s there no matter what. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber CaaC (John)+ 5,358 Posted April 4, 2022 Subscriber Share Posted April 4, 2022 Glen Hoddle for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirBalon 2,692 Posted April 4, 2022 Author Share Posted April 4, 2022 17 minutes ago, CaaC (John) said: Glen Hoddle for me. I think both yourself and myself are around abouts the same generation mate... Hoddle could also be a 9? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber Mel81x+ 3,612 Posted April 4, 2022 Subscriber Share Posted April 4, 2022 I don't know if you want to drop Riquelme in this list but I feel like he could have been a number 9 too with a little work and time. It's also not out of the way to say that any number 10 could also potentially turn into a 9 position player with a lot of work. Some modern systems are built on that very fact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cicero 5,265 Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 Messi's greatest ever performance in El Clasico came without any goals. Still consider him the greatest passer in existence. The amount of thread through a needle esq passes we've seen during him prime was genuinely incredible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Gonzo 8,177 Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 I'm going to go with what is probably an obvious shout from a Liverpool fan: Steven Gerrard. Rafa even thought Stevie should end his career as a striker rather than continuing to play as a midfielder - and I think he probably could have been effective there as his legs left him while he and Rodgers saw his late-career path making him more of a deep lying midfielder... where I think him losing his legs actually was more apparent once Suarez left. He played almost everywhere well and had a great season where he scored and created a lot mostly playing off Torres. I think he could have done well as a striker simply because he was a very complete player with a good eye for goal. Lampard as well. Not the same passing range, but his movement in and around the box was so good - if that was what he spent his career doing I think he'd probably have been considered one of the best strikers the league has ever had. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Subscriber CaaC (John)+ 5,358 Posted April 4, 2022 Subscriber Share Posted April 4, 2022 1 hour ago, SirBalon said: I think both yourself and myself are around abouts the same generation mate... Hoddle could also be a 9? He did a couple of times for England. https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/glenn-hoddle/rueckennummern/spieler/117193 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirBalon 2,692 Posted April 4, 2022 Author Share Posted April 4, 2022 42 minutes ago, CaaC (John) said: He did a couple of times for England. https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/glenn-hoddle/rueckennummern/spieler/117193 Well there you go! The debate is interesting anyway, but I have an inkling Carragher is talking about players that excelled in both avenues. There aren’t that many because Maradona (for example) can’t ever be classified as a 9 in any terms of his career (he played a few times in that position). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny 2,201 Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 The answer is very obviously Messi, his passing is phenomenal and he finds gaps that Kane simply doesn’t. But then it’s no shame to be second best to Messi (or 3rd, 4th, 5th etc) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike 5,100 Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 On 05/04/2022 at 03:23, Dr. Gonzo said: I'm going to go with what is probably an obvious shout from a Liverpool fan: Steven Gerrard. Rafa even thought Stevie should end his career as a striker rather than continuing to play as a midfielder - and I think he probably could have been effective there as his legs left him while he and Rodgers saw his late-career path making him more of a deep lying midfielder... where I think him losing his legs actually was more apparent once Suarez left. He played almost everywhere well and had a great season where he scored and created a lot mostly playing off Torres. I think he could have done well as a striker simply because he was a very complete player with a good eye for goal. Lampard as well. Not the same passing range, but his movement in and around the box was so good - if that was what he spent his career doing I think he'd probably have been considered one of the best strikers the league has ever had. I imagine this post will be also found in the thread ‘The best passers in history that were also goalies’ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devil-Dick Willie 3,253 Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 5 hours ago, Spike said: I imagine this post will be also found in the thread ‘The best passers in history that were also goalies’ Rafa always said he should end his career as a goalie in a dimension just 4 to the left of ours, so it's a good shout to be fair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Gonzo 8,177 Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 Hang on open your mouthes I’ve got to take a shit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Blue 1,897 Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 Man City Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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