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Anyone else watching this, tells the story of one of America's most notorious serial killers.

It's really difficult viewing to be fair and I'm only on episode 4 as I just can't binge watch it as I don't think my brain could handle it.

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9 hours ago, Cicero said:

Mental you could get away with drink driving in the 80s. 

Just drive home son!

Big bags of body parts in the back, imagine how calm he'd needed to have been. That proves how crazy he must have been.

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Seen a lot of documentaries about him over the years. like this one...

The Jeffrey Dahmer Files

They are all chilling and gave me the shites watching them, there was a film made of him and I just can't remember the name of the film and the actor, the actor's face I can picture now but just can't put a name to him.

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Forget that above, I was thinking about the actor Brian Donnehy when he acted in the film about the serial killer John Wayne Gacey To catch a killer

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Started watching it and I sometimes feel when you watch how serial killers got away with murders back in the day it was really just due to gross negligence by the police, FBI, etc. It wasn't really till much later when concepts of profiling, better checks, etc came in that incidents started to decrease.

I remember watching the Ted Bundy files and saw that he just jumped out a window and escaped. I can't even imagine something like that happening today. The same goes with Dahmer and the kid who someone thought was a teen, but he convinced the cops he was his boyfriend and then hearing the audio from the call you just sit there wondering how easy these psychopaths had it back in the day. It also makes you wonder how much more sinister and meticulous they are these days to get away with what they do and that is a bit more frightening. 

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39 minutes ago, Mel81x said:

Started watching it and I sometimes feel when you watch how serial killers got away with murders back in the day it was really just due to gross negligence by the police, FBI, etc. It wasn't really till much later when concepts of profiling, better checks, etc came in that incidents started to decrease.

I remember watching the Ted Bundy files and saw that he just jumped out a window and escaped. I can't even imagine something like that happening today. The same goes with Dahmer and the kid who someone thought was a teen, but he convinced the cops he was his boyfriend and then hearing the audio from the call you just sit there wondering how easy these psychopaths had it back in the day. It also makes you wonder how much more sinister and meticulous they are these days to get away with what they do and that is a bit more frightening. 

Milwaukee is pretty segregated and police prejudice/racism was ever apparent at the time. 

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I'm very familiar with the story so this was of interest to me. Really shows you how much shit you could get away with back in the day, and probably still this day to some extent. I think similar things happened with the Zodiac Killer, Richard Ramírez and John Wayne Gacy, where they could easily have been caught at one point but just evaded the law based on pure luck on their behalf.

I watched only 1 episode but I genuinely find it unsettling to watch as the actor who plays Dahmer does such a great job.

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Have started watching this. I knew of the Dahmer name and reputation he held but never in so much detail. 

Utterly gruesome and disgusting to the core. Both the individual and the actions. 

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16 minutes ago, Danny said:

Apparently the families involved didn’t want this to be made. Quite a weird thing to do from Netflix tbh

Not the first time they've done that though.

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1 minute ago, Stan said:

Not the first time they've done that though.

That doesn't surprise me, just weird from a personal perspective that someone would still go ahead with it after knowing the families don't want it out there as essentially true crime porn.

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True crime is dramatized all the time. Ethically and unethically. When viewers see the 'based on a true story' or 'based on real events' it creates engagement. It sells. 

You'd expect Netflix to do the right thing and give some of the profits to the victims' families. Unless they are massive hypocrites considering the way they depicted Lionel Dahmer trying to profit with his book about Jeffrey. That being said, I don't take this public backlash on social media too seriously. I wouldn't be surprised if at least half of it is fake or half hearted. There have been several novels and films dramatizing Jeffrey Dahmer. Just because Netflix makes one shouldn't commence such an uproar. 

I will say this though. In Jeffrey Dahmer's case, I still believe to this day his story needs to be told. One way or another. He was a unique individual forged by circumstances of nature vs nurture. Parents and school system/community that weren't involved, affectionate, and failed to provide him direction with his twisted thinking. His story will not only allow people to recognize the early signs of psychosis, but to allow these people to seek medical attention early and have it addressed. I also think the bigger picture here is that the Jeffrey Dahmer story allows to world to see the failure of the Milwaukee Police Department, and why the BLM movement continues to be a justifiable cause. Their incompetence, racism, and failure to provide equal protection and safety to Gay and Minority communities is biggest reason why the majority of these murders took place. The fact its been over 30 years and there are some people that don't know about Jeffrey Dahmer, his opportunistic and targeted murders on Gay black men, the police having multiple opportunities to catch him early on and/or the fact he murdered a 14 year old boy through the help of police, only shows more cause to have his story be heard.  It needs to be heard. 

 

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9 minutes ago, Whiskey said:

I find it quite weird how stuff like this is so popular. Dahmer shouldn't be given the satisfaction of a Netflix documentary, and should be exiled to nothingness rather than held up on a pedestal of popular culture.

Phew, thank you, I thought I was one of the few who feel that way. Frankly, I don't understand the fascination with it. I absolutely despise documentaries (and even fictional movies) about serial killers and other psychopaths; it makes me uneasy, and I don't think it's a good idea to immortalise sick bastards like that. 

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43 minutes ago, Cicero said:

Finding organs sexually arousing has to be  the sickest mental disease I’ve ever heard of. 

The name even sounds sick too. Splanchnicphilia? 

31 minutes ago, Whiskey said:

I find it quite weird how stuff like this is so popular. Dahmer shouldn't be given the satisfaction of a Netflix documentary, and should be exiled to nothingness rather than held up on a pedestal of popular culture.

Not held on a pedestal by having a series made out of him, but I do see what you're saying. The 'fame' of having a programme made of you, I guess. Probably just adds to his egotistical nature and craving for self-worth and acceptance.

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1 hour ago, Whiskey said:

I find it quite weird how stuff like this is so popular. Dahmer shouldn't be given the satisfaction of a Netflix documentary, and should be exiled to nothingness rather than held up on a pedestal of popular culture.

Morbid curiosity. I find these stories fascinating even though they are completely tragic. I don’t for one second idolise the likes of Dahmer or Bundy or Fred West, I just find the history interesting. 

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Was just reading about the police officers that allowed Dahmer to take the Laotian boy (Konerak?) back to Dahmer's apartment.

They were suspended, fired but reinstated, and given back pay of $55k!

And one of them - Bolczerak - then became president of the Milwaukee Police union :o

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