Moderator Tommy 12,613 Posted October 11, 2022 Moderator Share Posted October 11, 2022 44 minutes ago, Stan said: Who is the 2nd best, just out of interest, in your opinion? Obviously the German Champion of 1933. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faithcore 1,276 Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 8 hours ago, Rucksackfranzose said: That's because they want to sell internationally. I don't expect a non-German to know 1860, Duisburg, Waldhof, Essen, Halle, Zwickau, Ingolstadt, Dresden, and us are all former first tier clubs. Aunt Edith: Aue as well. I expect it and demand it! Also @Stan bans every new member who does not know Duisburg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike 5,103 Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 6 hours ago, Devil-Dick Willie said: But the rule is the best 2 teams HAVE to have a 'rivalry'... for the revenue ya know? I think what defines a rivalry is more loose and nebulous than people admit. Under the dictionary definition of the word they are rivals, right? I think ‘enemy’ is more what people mean but they don’t want to say it in that manner. In that sense yes, Bayern and Dortmund aren't enemies as they have no particular animosity towards each-other, fans or club; and losing to each other doesn't send the fans into a meltdown seethe. You could say they were 'rivals' in the actual sense of the word as the two teams were trading trophies and were the main threat to each other's success. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Stan 18,380 Posted October 11, 2022 Administrator Share Posted October 11, 2022 32 minutes ago, Faithcore said: I expect it and demand it! Also @Stan bans every new member who does not know Duisburg. I don't see the issue! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike 5,103 Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 Maybe not so much in Germany, I couldn’t tell you if the average Bundesliga fan says these sort of platitudes. I hate it whn fans go on about ‘history’, but what they are actually talking about is ‘past trophies’ As if they only barometer for a a club existing or even worth talking about is 5 cup wins in the 1920s. I’ve never really encountered this sort of thought process outside of soccerball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rucksackfranzose 4,371 Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 2 minutes ago, Spike said: Maybe not so much in Germany, I couldn’t tell you if the average Bundesliga fan says these sort of platitudes. I hate it whn fans go on about ‘history’, but what they are actually talking about is ‘past trophies’ As if they only barometer for a a club existing or even worth talking about is 5 cup wins in the 1920s. To be fair, banging about past glory is extremely helpful for your own feelings, if and when your club is going through a rough period. It suggests the club you support was once much more signifikant than they're nowadays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike 5,103 Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 4 minutes ago, Rucksackfranzose said: To be fair, banging about past glory is extremely helpful for your own feelings, if and when your club is going through a rough period. It suggests the club you support was once much more signifikant than they're nowadays. I understand that but I feel like it is more used as a weapon to dismiss the feelings of other fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rucksackfranzose 4,371 Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 1 hour ago, Spike said: I understand that but I feel like it is more used as a weapon to dismiss the feelings of other fans. I agree to a certain degree, still defining your own group partly through demarcation from other groups is an integral part of human nature, in my honest opinion. Always was and ever will be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator Tommy 12,613 Posted October 11, 2022 Moderator Share Posted October 11, 2022 2 hours ago, Faithcore said: I expect it and demand it! Also @Stan bans every new member who does not know Duisburg. Everyone who doesn`t know Duisburg (the city) is better off. Just kidding. Parts of my family come from there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike 5,103 Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 34 minutes ago, Tommy said: Everyone who doesn`t know Duisburg (the city) is better off. Just kidding. Parts of my family come from there. Just a had look at some pics, looks like it was an industrial town that had a population decline? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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