Stan 16,945 Posted November 26, 2022 Author Share Posted November 26, 2022 Fernández and Alvarez coming on changed the game for Argentina. Gave them more impetus in midfield and mobility up front. Then Fernández seals the win anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machado 1,691 Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 That sucks. No more Benfica players scoring goals please. Don't need no attention. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waylander 166 Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 That makes KSA against Mexico on the last day very promising. I think Mexico played for a draw today and went to sleep defensively for a moment. Think Mexico needing a win will be too much for KSA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan 16,945 Posted November 26, 2022 Author Share Posted November 26, 2022 3 minutes ago, Waylander said: That makes KSA against Mexico on the last day very promising. And the whole group in general. I wouldn't put it past Saudi Arabia to beat Mexico. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cicero 5,161 Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 We spend 100m for Declan Rice whilst ignoring a far superior footballer in Enzo Fernandez then what the fuck is the actual point in bringing all these ‘data gurus’ for us to only behave the same as we have under Roman? Filth of a goal he scored and such a technical player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike 4,577 Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 4 minutes ago, Cicero said: We spend 100m for Declan Rice whilst ignoring a far superior footballer in Enzo Fernandez then what the fuck is the actual point in bringing all these ‘data gurus’ for us to only behave the same as we have under Roman? Filth of a goal he scored and such a technical player. I’d say those two player fulfil different roles in their teams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucas 3,656 Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 Love this view of the Messi goal. Gives me some serious old school Sensible Soccer vibes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cicero 5,161 Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Spike said: I’d say those two player fulfil different roles in their teams. I’m in the opinion Declan Rice is neither a holding midfielder or defensive midfielder. At least not one you’d expect to compete against at the best midfields in the world. For all of Jorginho’s faults, having Rice replace him would be a terrible move. More box to box imo and it’s no surprise a lot of Englands struggles come from Rice being a lone DM as a factor. Edited November 26, 2022 by Cicero Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reluctant Striker 98 Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 Should be a fascinating finish to this group. Hilarious to see Gary Neville on ITV writing off Messi at half time. I don't see much of him on Sky, but I find I usually dislike, disagree or just don't understand the traditional Sky type panellists opinions. I wonder if it's something to do with being wrapped up in regional-club thinking? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machado 1,691 Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 22 minutes ago, Cicero said: We spend 100m for Declan Rice whilst ignoring a far superior footballer in Enzo Fernandez then what the fuck is the actual point in bringing all these ‘data gurus’ for us to only behave the same as we have under Roman? Filth of a goal he scored and such a technical player. Unfortunately he is off to England probably after that goal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Blue 1,777 Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 2 correct scores this round Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike 4,577 Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 8 minutes ago, Cicero said: I’m in the opinion Declan Rice is neither a holding midfielder or defensive midfielder. At least not one you’d expect to compete against at the best midfields in the world. For all of Jorginho’s faults, having Rice replace him would be a terrible move. More box to box imo and it’s no surprise a lot of Englands struggles come from Rice being a lone DM as a factor. I’d agree. He isn’t anything really, good at everything, great at nothing. But if Chelsea are looking at Rice to fufill a need in the team, they won’t even touch Fernandez, given the two aren’t really comparable. But then again, I’m the sort that thinks ideas of ‘defensive midfielder’ and pidgeonholing positions is an antiquated habit of football fans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cicero 5,161 Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 1 minute ago, Spike said: I’d agree. He isn’t anything really, good at everything, great at nothing. But if Chelsea are looking at Rice to fufill a need in the team, they won’t even touch Fernandez, given the two aren’t really comparable. But then again, I’m the sort that thinks ideas of ‘defensive midfielder’ and pidgeonholing positions is an antiquated habit of football fans. Personally, I’d rather the club break the bank for Enzo so he can partner Mount in midfield, whilst we bring in an actual DM to sit beneath them. For the DM, my biggest worry is the club have identified Rice to be “that guy”, which leaves me incredibly worried for the future if this is the best our data/recruitment guru’s have to offer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waylander 166 Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 1 hour ago, Stan said: And the whole group in general. I wouldn't put it past Saudi Arabia to beat Mexico. I think Mexico can step up the pace in a game not sure KSA can. Will be interesting for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike 4,577 Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 1 hour ago, Waylander said: I think Mexico can step up the pace in a game not sure KSA can. Will be interesting for sure. Why do think Mexico can? They’ve been one of the most pessimistic teams at the tournament, they haven’t played to win at all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael 1,009 Posted November 27, 2022 Share Posted November 27, 2022 Messi and Argentina into the Round of 16 looks very likely now after this win. How far Argentina go after that is anyone's guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan 1,796 Posted November 27, 2022 Share Posted November 27, 2022 Mexico's run looks over. They've stunk this tournament out on the pitch to be honest. Absolutely nothing going forward at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan 16,945 Posted November 27, 2022 Author Share Posted November 27, 2022 5 hours ago, Michael said: Messi and Argentina into the Round of 16 looks very likely now after this win. How far Argentina go after that is anyone's guess. Not sure a win over Poland is as guaranteed as you think it is. They upped their performance in 2nd half today, but will be hard to beat Poland. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waylander 166 Posted November 27, 2022 Share Posted November 27, 2022 11 hours ago, Spike said: Why do think Mexico can? They’ve been one of the most pessimistic teams at the tournament, they haven’t played to win at all I agree they have not played well yet think some of that is mentality in a group situation, think knowing they have to win they will step up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny 2,051 Posted November 28, 2022 Share Posted November 28, 2022 (edited) Canelo threatening Messi because the Mexico shirt was on the floor in a changing room is up there as one of the most bizarre moments in football...there are ways to get over a loss in the World Cup and then there's that Edited November 28, 2022 by Danny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cicero 5,161 Posted November 28, 2022 Share Posted November 28, 2022 Nothing screams masculinity and I'm not compensating for anything, than challenging someone to a fight when you are a professional fighter. Twat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mel81x 3,303 Posted November 28, 2022 Share Posted November 28, 2022 On 27/11/2022 at 04:44, Machado said: Unfortunately he is off to England probably after that goal. He's always welcome at Liverpool Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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