Lucas 3,675 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 (edited) 2 hours ago, RandoEFC said: Sounding like Bielsa has rejected the approach. Can't blame him and I think a relief for us. There are a lot of good managers across Europe who are currently looking for a job who might have picked up the phone last summer but difficult to make our case now we're sat joint bottom having barely survived relegation last year. That's what I read too. Not dismissive of the Everton job full stop, but doubts the current team is too slow to play the way he wants to play and would need to bring in some pace before the window. This could be false but equally, he must have been approached a little while back because he's supposedly provided feedback analysis of the current squad in it's entirety. If Everton didn't want Dyche, I actually thought earlier would they go for Nuno again having nearly got him when Ancelotti left. He likes that 5 at the back, 3 CB system and there is the possibility of reuniting with Coady. I'd still take Dyche over him tbh but just a passing thought. Edited January 24 by Lucas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandoEFC 7,201 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 16 minutes ago, Lucas said: That's what I read too. Not dismissive of the Everton job full stop, but doubts the current team is too slow to play the way he wants to play and would need to bring in some pace before the window. This could be false but equally, he must have been approached a little while back because he's supposedly provided feedback analysis of the current squad in it's entirety. If Everton didn't want Dyche, I actually thought earlier would they go for Nuno again having nearly got him when Ancelotti left. He likes that 5 at the back, 3 CB system and there is the possibility of reuniting with Coady. I'd still take Dyche over him tbh but just a passing thought. Nuno has a seven-figure release clause at his current job out in the Middle East. A complicated deal apparently. I wouldn't want him at all though. On Bielsa though, you could watch any of our games for about 3 minutes and come to the same conclusion, he could have completed that analysis this morning over a bowl of weetabix . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucas 3,675 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 (edited) When it rains, it pours for Everton... Looks like Danjuma has done Everton dirty there. In some ways, good to know your missing out on someone who shows their true colours like that but equally, I'm guessing the current upheaval has made him have doubts. Edited January 24 by Lucas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandoEFC 7,201 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 Shithouse behaviour. Enough of them at the club already. Well swerved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFCMike 2,851 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 @RandoEFC will be delighted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bandito Burrito 28 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 12 minutes ago, LFCMike said: @RandoEFC will be delighted he would indeed make a great fit!. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reluctant Striker 102 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 I sense the timing, league position & perceived strength of the squad make it unlikely the next man will be a fancy headline name. But Hassenhuttl & Bielsa would both seem like mistakes to me. Dyche could feasibly decide he's not got much to lose from it. In fact I sense he would bizarrely have an incredibly enhanced reputation if he keeps Everton up rather than Burnley (..?) If not Dyche, then surely it could make sense to look at Duncan Ferguson properly. Or even Rooney, if he wouldn't be a Benitez style mistake. Dean Smith never actually got relegated with Villa. Did plenty of Brentford groundwork. Play off chasing Norwich got rid of him harshly. Buendia. Paul Lambert. There's recent Villa-Norwich issues IMO. He has a longer track record than Bielsa. If I was Everton owner/board I'd be thinking 1) Dyche, 2) Rooney &/or Ferguson 3) Dean Smith All could decide to risk it. All could be motivated to stay on however it goes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandoEFC 7,201 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 Since yesterday morning... - Everton sacked their manager prompting a media and ITK frenzy on who has, hasn't and may yet be approached to fill the role. - Everton thought they had signed Danjuma on loan for the rest of the season, medical complete, media done, training kit set out for him this morning, for him to no-show and join Spurs by the end or the day. - Anthony Gordon and Amadou Onana reportedly didn't turn up to train leading fans to believe they're both on their way out as well. - Gordon is now close to moving to Newcastle but it turns out Onana was just allowed to go to a wedding. - Farhad Moshiri has now put up his 94% shareholding in the club for ~£500m less than 24 hours after approaching Marcelo Bielsa to take the new managers job. Several potential buyers are reportedly interested. It's not been boring, we can agree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DNA 107 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 Wonder what will happen to the coaching staff now, a lot of Lampard’s people he hand picked.. Ashley Cole, Joe Edwards, Paul Clement, Chris Jones.. I think there’s another he brought in as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandoEFC 7,201 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 23 minutes ago, RandoEFC said: Since yesterday morning... - Everton sacked their manager prompting a media and ITK frenzy on who has, hasn't and may yet be approached to fill the role. - Everton thought they had signed Danjuma on loan for the rest of the season, medical complete, media done, training kit set out for him this morning, for him to no-show and join Spurs by the end or the day. - Anthony Gordon and Amadou Onana reportedly didn't turn up to train leading fans to believe they're both on their way out as well. - Gordon is now close to moving to Newcastle but it turns out Onana was just allowed to go to a wedding. - Farhad Moshiri has now put up his 94% shareholding in the club for ~£500m less than 24 hours after approaching Marcelo Bielsa to take the new managers job. Several potential buyers are reportedly interested. It's not been boring, we can agree. Within 15 minutes of that Guardian article where Moshiri has effectively put the club up for sale, the club has released a 25 minute interview with him. Moshiri states in the first 5 minutes that he's totally committed to the club, the stadium and joining the footballing elite. This simply cannot be real. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whiskey 973 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 We are absolutely fantastic aren't we. Popcorn banter merchants. Fucking close the doors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandoEFC 7,201 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 Alright. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Palace Fan 3,195 Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 Blue Bill's demands to still remain involved will no doubt hamper potential interested parties. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaaC (John) 4,984 Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 Let good old Duncan get the job, that guy has been loyal to the toffees for years and I reckon he would give a good show on keeping them up, even if they go down at least he has a chance for a rebuild, and get them back up in the EPL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaaC (John) 4,984 Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 (edited) @RandoEFC, not trying to wind you up but what if, and I mean IF Gerrard applied for the job or was even offered the job, what would your thoughts be on that one, after all, you did have Benitez there for a spell? Spoiler Edited January 25 by CaaC (John) photo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandoEFC 7,201 Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 1 hour ago, CaaC (John) said: @RandoEFC, not trying to wind you up but what if, and I mean IF Gerrard applied for the job or was even offered the job, what would your thoughts be on that one, after all, you did have Benitez there for a spell? Reveal hidden contents Would have considered him when he had achieved well at Rangers but his stint at Villa puts me off. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan 17,005 Posted January 25 Author Share Posted January 25 Bielsa deal not totally off the table apparently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MUFC 1,314 Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 Ole. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Gonzo 7,544 Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 17 hours ago, The Palace Fan said: Blue Bill's demands to still remain involved will no doubt hamper potential interested parties. That man must hate Everton with every fibre in his being for what he's done to that club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandoEFC 7,201 Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 Kenwright and Moshiri are both utterly deluded in totally different ways. Kenwright continues to convince himself he wants to put the club back on the right path but can't/won't process that the best way to do that is for him to get his grubby hands off it. Moshiri is just a certified lunatic. One minute he lets the club be for 15 months, next minute he wants to come back and pick the next manager. Loon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandoEFC 7,201 Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 Looks like Dyche will now be appointed today. The least risky of those touted and probably the best-equipped to keep us up this season. I hope if he succeeds that we give him next season as well and don't do something mad like say thanks for doing a Big Sam for us but now we're going for Bielsa, because I do think Dyche is probably a bit underrated in terms of his ability to develop a style and improve a club over a period of time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael 1,017 Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 2 hours ago, RandoEFC said: Looks like Dyche will now be appointed today. The least risky of those touted and probably the best-equipped to keep us up this season. I hope if he succeeds that we give him next season as well and don't do something mad like say thanks for doing a Big Sam for us but now we're going for Bielsa, because I do think Dyche is probably a bit underrated in terms of his ability to develop a style and improve a club over a period of time. I would have preferred Bielsa, but he apparently didn't want the Everton job at this moment in time and I can't say that I blame him. Dyche will have a very difficult task at Everton. There are too many overrated and average players in this Everton team and it will be a huge job to keep them up in my opinion. Everton have made some decent signings in recent years, but overall, I think that the management of the club has been pretty bad over the last few years. Going forward, they will need to make 2 or 3 very good signings, which will help this club get back to where they are supposed to be. Dyche's immediate job will obviously be to try and keep them up. Only 3 points separate Everton and 14th placed Leicester City in the Premier League standings. However, out of the 7 clubs down at the bottom, only Southampton and Bournemouth look as bad as Everton right now. So it will be an extremely difficult mission for Dyche to prevent this Everton ship from sinking, but I wish Everton all the best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaaC (John) 4,984 Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 (edited) If Dyche does take over then there is always the possibility of him being another Eddie Howe, Newcastle was fighting relegation then but look at them now, I would not class Dyche as a bad manager as he did wonders with Burnley. Edit: Must be done and dusted looking at Wikipedia... Edited January 27 by CaaC (John) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan 17,005 Posted January 27 Author Share Posted January 27 9 minutes ago, CaaC (John) said: If Dyche does take over then there is always the possibility of him being another Eddie Howe, Newcastle was fighting relegation then but look at them now, I would not class Dyche as a bad manager as he did wonders with Burnley. Edit: Must be done and dusted looking at Wikipedia... Wikipedia isn't a reliable source Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaaC (John) 4,984 Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 Just now, Stan said: Wikipedia isn't a reliable source OYE, lay of good old Wiki Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan 17,005 Posted January 27 Author Share Posted January 27 25 minutes ago, CaaC (John) said: OYE, lay of good old Wiki You know anyone can change Wikipedia, right? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Palace Fan 3,195 Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 There are so many players in that team that I think Sean Dyche can get a tune out of for the rest of this season it's changed my perception of where they'll finish. Next season will be interesting if they stay up. With the financial restraints I think Dyche will stick with what he knows in regards to a football philosophy and its one that didn't go down well with Evertonians after Big Sam. Albeit this time I think they'll be more willing to accept the approach as they're not going to be chucking big sums at finishing top six. Either way he needs a good 18 months / 2 years to reset this football club without any interference from Moshiri. There's too many players signed by different managers that it's got to a point where there's no coherent approach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Gonzo 7,544 Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 2 hours ago, Stan said: Wikipedia isn't a reliable source It is and it isn’t. Anyone can edit it, but it’s constantly being checked and things that aren’t sourced properly or verified are removed all the time. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike 4,591 Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 Stan is in here telling people about wikipedia like it is 2007. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy 11,386 Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 Wikipedia is one of the most reliable sources we have these days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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