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1 hour ago, Smiley Culture said:

Anyone actually understand how this works? Like, say England are relegated do they go down to the Group 4 pot in League B or is it drawn again once this tournament is over? 

It'll get drawn again next time it comes around.

If you finish top of your group in League A, you play a 'finals' tournament.

There's also a play-offs route. If you win the group but also one of the teams that qualified for Euros through traditional qualifying route, then the play-off spot is given to another team in the league, based on next highest-ranked team I think. 

If you finish bottom of the group in League A, you get relegated. Likewise for each group in League B & C. 

 

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On 04/09/2018 at 11:45, Stan said:

It'll get drawn again next time it comes around.

If you finish top of your group in League A, you play a 'finals' tournament.

There's also a play-offs route. If you win the group but also one of the teams that qualified for Euros through traditional qualifying route, then the play-off spot is given to another team in the league, based on next highest-ranked team I think. 

If you finish bottom of the group in League A, you get relegated. Likewise for each group in League B & C. 

 

Do the winners of the bottom league qualify for euro 2020?

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6 hours ago, ScoRoss said:

Yes. Looking forward to the Faroe Islands make it to Euro 2020...

Looking at the group Georgia would probably be favoutes

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What the hell is going on with all these players pulling out of Internationals all of a sudden., is it club before country now lol, Pogba, Martial, Mendy, Lacazette for France, Trippier for England and now Jack for Scotland, all suddenly picking up injuries.

 

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3 minutes ago, CaaC - John said:

What the hell is going on with all these players pulling out of Internationals all of a sudden., is it club before country now lol, Pogba, Martial, Mendy, Lacazette for France, Trippier for England and now Jack for Scotland, all suddenly picking up injuries.

 

Been going on for years mate. 

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Nations League: What have other countries made of Uefa's new competition?

By Paul Brown & Laura Gozzi

BBC Monitoring

3 hours ago | European Football

The group stages of the Nations League draw to a close on Tuesday, offering an opportunity to take stock on the latest innovation in international football.

Uefa's decision to introduce the new competition was a controversial one, with some club managers voicing their frustration and concerns at the impact of another series of competitive matches.

In England, the Nations League is proving a hit, a view helped by the national team's dramatic group-stage success.

But what have the rest of Europe made of the competition? Players, pundits and journalists from across the continent have their say.

Ukraine - 'Uefa's perfect idea'

The head of the Football Federation of Ukraine, Andriy Pavelko, called it"Uefa's perfect idea". "Uefa has come up with the right motivation for teams which, through Nations League matches, have a chance and incentives to make it to Euro 2020."

Former captain Ruslan Rotan said: "The tournament is advantageous to all teams taking part. Instead of looking for sparring partners, you have a clear schedule of matches. In addition to training, Nations League matches are of a competitive nature."

Winger Yevhen Konoplyanka, who plays for Schalke, said the Nations league "benefits football and is definitely much more interesting for players".

Russia - 'The greatest footballing invention of the century'

It is rare for Russians and Ukrainians to agree on much, but they seem to have found common ground on this topic.

In Russia, sports publication Sovetskiy Sport hailed the new competition as the "greatest footballing invention of the century". The piece likens the competition to a stroke of "magic" that has helped Uefa "breathe life into the once-dead and devoid-of-all-intrigue friendly matches".

Another top sporting publication in Russia, Sport-Express, said the "blockbuster" victories for England against Croatia and Switzerland against Belgium made the competition worth watching. The article headlined "And you were asking why we need a Nations League" concludes that "the organisers of the league have no questions to answer any more".

Georgia - 'The atmosphere in our society is more positive'

Georgia's prospects of qualifying for their first European Championship after winning Group D1 means there is much goodwill towards the competition.

After the 2-1 victory over Kazakhstan on Monday, which guaranteed them a play-off place for the next Euros, former international and current president of the Georgian Football Federation Levan Kobiashvili said: "What has it given us? Overall it improved our self-confidence, we are more positive, including the atmosphere among the fans and society. The most important and positive thing is that we proved once again that there was, is and will be football in our country."

Portugal and France - all about the money for Uefa?

In Portugal, where the finals will be held, the reaction has been more lukewarm.

Football website Zerozero says the completion is likely to become "just another European Championship", while newspaper Publico says Uefa "wants to milk the financial success of the Champions League while promoting big-name clashes".

In France, Le Monde says the Nations League is "another one of those championships that we don't really understand the rules of", while Le Parisien sums its purpose up by saying: "This new competition will spice up matches that aren't usually exciting, while pumping some cash into Uefa and the various national football federations. The trophy is unlikely to spark interest in the crowds, nor will it motivate the player who will surely be eager to go on holiday after an exhausting post-World Cup season."

Italy - 'God bless the Nations League!'

When the idea of a Nations League was first announced, GQ Italy said"this is a reshuffle that won't change anything, because Uefa's priority will remain to stage matches that are interesting for the public. It will attract the real masters of modern football - sponsors and TV channels."

A year later, Italian publications show only modest enthusiasm for the Nations League (although most praise Italy's performance as "encouraging").

Blog Numero Diez says "it's too early to judge… but you can't thrash the potential of this new championship to showcase young talent".

Football commentator Tancredi Palmeri is more enthusiastic: "God bless the Nations League: out of the many ways people have recently tried to improve football, this one is the best."

International managers - 'Klopp's view is selfish'

In response to Jurgen Klopp's remarks on the "senselessness" nature of the tournament, Turkish manager Mircea Lucescu said: "Klopp will change his mind when he heads a national team. National teams should keep playing important matches. His statement is selfish."

Germany manager Joachim Low oversaw his side's relegation to the second tier, but he is still in favour of the competition.

"For us, for me as national coach, the Nations League is a good invention because we play against top nations because it's for something," he said."It is a competition. That is sometimes preferable to me in this phase than to play against the really small countries."

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/46274022

 

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The UEFA Nations League as it is now...

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It looked like being a summer without any tournament football for England.

Up until the 85th minute against Croatia, the Three Lions were staring at relegation to the second tier of the Nations League, before skipper Harry Kane slid in the winning goal to send Wembley Stadium into raptures.

The country will be hoping for another heatwave in 2019 and England only need to win two more games to bring the trophy home.

Here is everything you need to know about the Nations League finals.

The finals has an unexpected look, with world champions France, World Cup finalists Croatia, World Cup semi-finalists Belgium, 2014 World Cup winners Germany and much-fancied Spain all missing out in the group stages.

Gareth Southgate's England finished top of group A4, while Switzerland pipped Belgium to the top of group A2 on head-to-head by beating them 5-2 in their final game.

European champions Portugal were top of A3, while Netherlands continued their revival as they scored a 90th-minute equaliser in their final game against Germany to win A1.

Where and when will it take place?

Portugal will host the inaugural finals. The dates and format are as follows:

  • 5 June: Semi-final 1
  • 6 June: Semi-final 2
  • 9 June: Third-place play-off
  • 9 June: Final

The details will be confirmed by Uefa on Monday, 3 December, with the draw for the finals also taking place that day.

Why are Portugal hosts?

Portugal were named as hosts by virtue of finishing top of Group A3 and above Italy and Poland, the other two countries to express an interest.

Porto's Estadio do Dragao and the Estadio D Afonso Henriques in Guimaraes are the proposed venues for the four matches that will take place.

What is it worth to the Football Association?

Kane's late goal proved to be extremely lucrative.

England had already got £1.5m for taking part in the Nations League and an extra £1.5m by beating Croatia and finishing top of their group.

No matter what happens next summer, even if they finish fourth, they have also guaranteed themselves a further £1.5m. This comes after England claimed £17m from Fifa after finishing fourth at the World Cup in the summer.

The winner of the Nations League tournament will receive £6.67m and the trophy.

Is there any impact on Euro 2020 qualifying?

Yes.

All four finalists will play in smaller groups for Euro 2020 qualifying as they do not have dates available in June, since they will be competing in these finals. Rather than facing a six-team group, which would contain one of the minnows of European football, England will play in a five-team group instead.

England have also guaranteed a place in the Euro 2020 play-offs, a fallback in the event they fail to qualify for that tournament through the traditional route.

 

 

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The Nations League is here to stay

Starting its journey in 2018 with the doubts that always accompany the new competitions, the UEFA Nations League has been a great success and looks as though it will be around for years to come.

The main objective was, according to the organisers, to ensure that matches between national teams - but not at major championships - had a more competitive edge.

It's format seduced the players and supporters came in their droves.

The most important aspect of all is that there are no longer so many stretches of friendlies with little interest for anyone.

Thirty years ago, when there were not so many dates for international matches, the friendlies became more important.

Now they almost serve as a grounding for those who don't play regularly, when in the past it was a matter of pride and prestige to win against another country.

In addition to recovering a competitive nature from the fixtures, this tournament has been a new form of income for national teams.

The four teams that have entered the 'Final Four' will take home between 2.5 to 6 million euros depending on their final position.

A potential negative element and of greater concern to the clubs, is injuries to their best players.

Croatia complained of having fewer days to prepare for their match against England, for example, showing that the combination of friendlies with official clashes has not pleased everyone.

But the competition has energised the audience and encouraged them to go en masse to the stadiums.

Source Marca 

 

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Jurgen Klopp: Nations League semi-final after Champions League final bad for players

Liverpool boss Jurgen Klopp says players need to be looked after in a "better way" or it will "kill the game" with the Champions League final scheduled five days before England's Nations League semi-final.

Liverpool face Tottenham on 1 June in Madrid and England play the Netherlands in Guimaraes, Portugal on 6 June.

About 10 players might be delayed in joining Gareth Southgate's England squad.

"It's not good planning," said Klopp.

"Everybody looked at me when I said it was not such a good idea, and whoops, there are two teams in the Champions League final who are English, and if it had been a Dutch team it would have been the same.

"If we don't learn to deal with our players in a better way, competition-wise, then it's the only chance to kill this wonderful game. Because without the players, it's not a good one."

The German added: "But other people have to deal with that. It's not Gareth's fault, but planning something like this and being surprised at two top teams being in the Champions League final and a lot of players of these teams involved in the Nations League, that's interesting planning.

"If we would plan something like this, we would be surprised every weekend that there is another Premier League game."

The winners of the match between England and the Netherlands will face either Portugal or Switzerland in the Nations League final on 9 June.

Potential England squad members include Liverpool's Trent Alexander-Arnold, Joe Gomez, Jordan Henderson and Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain.

Danny Rose, Kieran Trippier, Eric Dier, Dele Alli, Harry Winks and England skipper Harry Kane are Spurs players who could feature.

England internationals Ross Barkley and Ruben Loftus-Cheek are also likely to be in action for Chelsea on 29 May in the Europa League final against Arsenal in Baku.

Players like Alli have had just under a month off in the past year. He played in England's first World Cup warm-up game on 2 June 2018 and the third-placed play-off match on 14 July. His first match of the season for Spurs was on 11 August.

England and Spurs captain Kane has not played since 9 April when he suffered an ankle injury but is "hopeful" of being fit to face Liverpool in Madrid.

Southgate says his preparations have been made "a little bit more complicated" thanks to the all-English Champions League final.

"This is a challenge we have to deal with as a group of staff," he said.

Last month Southgate suggested England's attempts to win the inaugural edition of the Nations League would be a "mess" if one or more English clubs reached the final at Atletico Madrid's Wanda Metropolitano.

On Thursday, he added: "For our young English players it is great that they are playing in matches that really matter while under pressure and they are being really successful because that will help England in the long run.

"Although it makes our preparation a bit more complicated, that is a challenge we have to deal with as a group of staff. We have got to adapt. We are always telling our players to adapt so we have got to do the same."

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7 minutes ago, ScoRoss said:

Reports in South America, that Argentina have been invited to participate in the next competition

Obviously. 

As much as a farce that it is when Australia and Qatar play in the Copa America. 

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54 minutes ago, Stan said:

Obviously. 

As much as a farce that it is when Australia and Qatar play in the Copa America. 

Even worse when Australia participate in the Eurovision Song Contest and destroying one of the greatest competitions of our lives.

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1 minute ago, Stick With Azeem said:

Creating a wider world nations league is already on the cards in near future so this might be the start

Wouldn’t that take away from the status the World Cup has?

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