LFCMadLad 2,080 Posted January 11, 2018 Share Posted January 11, 2018 14 minutes ago, Mel81x said: Thought RBL came back with a no-hes-not-going-anywhere in early december and they weren't budging on it either. However, if the club is pushing for this I think its great. Well apparently Kieta has asked to leave and us offering around £13m to bring the deal forward has softened their stance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber Mel81x+ 3,612 Posted January 11, 2018 Subscriber Share Posted January 11, 2018 3 minutes ago, LFCMadLad said: Well apparently Kieta has asked to leave and us offering around £13m to bring the deal forward has softened their stance. Ah didn't know there was green involved. That generally turns heads .. generally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirBalon 2,692 Posted January 11, 2018 Share Posted January 11, 2018 If £13m gets Keita in now, then as ridiculous as it may sound to belittle an amount such as that, it would be worth it and could be a massive boost for Liverpool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry 1,437 Posted January 11, 2018 Share Posted January 11, 2018 You'd think we'd already have lined this up before we let coutinho leave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFCMadLad 2,080 Posted January 11, 2018 Share Posted January 11, 2018 21 minutes ago, Harry said: You'd think we'd already have lined this up before we let coutinho leave. I don’t think a deal worth £146m would be held up by a deal only being speeded up with a £13m sweetener to be honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry 1,437 Posted January 11, 2018 Share Posted January 11, 2018 It's more a question of whether we'd leave a 146m hole in our midfield for 6 months before we fill it with a 72m asset. Personally I'd be sure we could make this happen before I'd let Phil leave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Stan 18,365 Posted January 11, 2018 Administrator Share Posted January 11, 2018 £13m is a pittance in this day and age. I'd pay it. Can't play in Champions League though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFCMadLad 2,080 Posted January 11, 2018 Share Posted January 11, 2018 3 minutes ago, Harry said: It's more a question of whether we'd leave a 146m hole in our midfield for 6 months before we fill it with a 72m asset. Personally I'd be sure we could make this happen before I'd let Phil leave. Barcelona couldn’t wait as they may have a transfer ban from next summer, it was now or never for Coutinho. Anyway, we all know the politics of football and how clubs want to save face. This deal for Kieta may well have been already sorted beforehand and this is all postering for the RBL fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFCMadLad 2,080 Posted January 11, 2018 Share Posted January 11, 2018 2 minutes ago, Stan said: £13m is a pittance in this day and age. I'd pay it. Can't play in Champions League though. He can’t, but I think this has more to do with making sure we ARE playing CL football next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFCMadLad 2,080 Posted January 11, 2018 Share Posted January 11, 2018 Watch this beast: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HK85 267 Posted January 11, 2018 Share Posted January 11, 2018 Takes it to well over £50 million, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirBalon 2,692 Posted January 11, 2018 Share Posted January 11, 2018 1 minute ago, HK85 said: Takes it to well over £50 million, right? In today’s market Keita is worth that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HK85 267 Posted January 11, 2018 Share Posted January 11, 2018 3 minutes ago, SirBalon said: In today’s market Keita is worth that! Strange from a manager that doesn't like to throw money around, though. Apparently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Artful Dodger 1,831 Posted January 11, 2018 Share Posted January 11, 2018 Only money they’ve recouped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFCMadLad 2,080 Posted January 11, 2018 Share Posted January 11, 2018 1 hour ago, HK85 said: Strange from a manager that doesn't like to throw money around, though. Apparently. Even with the VVD purchase, Liverpool had the lowest net spend in the last 2 years of anyone in the Premiere League. Klopp deserves a couple of star buys. In his first 2 windows Klopp made a profit of around £15m. This summer he sold Sakho for £30mish amongst others. Hes now spent between £50m -£70m since he’s been here (including VVD & Kieta) and look at our squad now compared to when he arrived ! Goalkeeper sorted next. The mans a genius! You can keep Fat Sam 👍 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HK85 267 Posted January 11, 2018 Share Posted January 11, 2018 If this Keita thing gets pushed through that is over £200 million spent this season alone. Seems strange from someone who isn't a cheque book manager. All that money spent and I've never seen you further away from challenging for the title. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFCMadLad 2,080 Posted January 11, 2018 Share Posted January 11, 2018 The thing is... does @The Liquidator think he’ll improve us? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFCMadLad 2,080 Posted January 11, 2018 Share Posted January 11, 2018 11 minutes ago, HK85 said: If this Keita thing gets pushed through that is over £200 million spent this season alone. Seems strange from someone who isn't a cheque book manager. All that money spent and I've never seen you further away from challenging for the title. He’s recouped almost 3/4 of that £200m though, not including the Coutinho sale How much shit did Klopp get (even off our own fans) for not buying someone else when the VVD deal fell through last summer? Previous managers of ours would have gone for option 2 or 3 but no, he saved the money and waited for his number 1 target. Same with kieta! He couldn’t get him last summer so he saved the money and waited. He’s now got his number 1 targets for the spine of our team and suddenly the fans wanting Klopp’s bollocks nailing to the wall have all gone quite. Klopp is assembling a pretty strong squad, and he’s doing it whilst not breaking the bank. He’s buying well, and he’s selling well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inverted 1,776 Posted January 11, 2018 Share Posted January 11, 2018 Can't simultaneously mock being forced to sell your best players, and then spending to make up for those losses. That's what Klopp did continually at Dortmund - replace stars with lower-profile talents, and thenuse the difference to improve the rest of the squad. Generally, it worked as well. Barrios was replaced by Lewandowski. Sahin was replaced by Gundogan. Kagawa by Reus. Gotze by Mkhitaryan. Lewandowski (eventually) by Aubameyang, after a blunder with Immobile and Ramos. If you sell big, you can spend big in more creative ways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber RandoEFC+ 7,644 Posted January 11, 2018 Subscriber Share Posted January 11, 2018 Everyone besides Chelsea, City and United trying to win the title is like trying to run up the downstairs escalator with your knees tied together. As far as that goes I'd say Klopp is doing a decent job and it's fair to say that he has markedly improved some areas of their squad whilst continuing to lose some key players. Credit where credit is due. The test is when he gets his goalkeeper and maybe another defender, do the leaks stop at the back? Because if they do continue that points toward it being a problem with the system more than the personnel which is a whole other issue for him to deal with. If the new recruits do work out in time for Salah and other key players to not have been plucked away by Real and Barca then Liverpool can start to think about another assault on the top of the table, potentially. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirBalon 2,692 Posted January 11, 2018 Share Posted January 11, 2018 The question here is (don’t get me wrong Liverpool fans, I love you all) is... And the academy? Does Liverpool FC have an academy? What’s the point in it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burning Gold 599 Posted January 11, 2018 Author Share Posted January 11, 2018 If Keita's the difference maker who'll help us qualify for the Champions League for the second year in a row, £13m is a drop in the ocean, but you could make exactly the same argument from Leipzig's point of view. I don't see why they'd let him go early. 8 minutes ago, SirBalon said: The question here is (don’t get me wrong Liverpool fans, I love you all) is... And the academy? Does Liverpool FC have an academy? What’s the point in it! We've got two highly rated academy kids around the fringes of the first team at the moment in Trent Alexander-Arnold and Ben Woodburn, but I'll agree we haven't seen enough from the academy in recent years. The only one who's made any kind of impact (bar Trent) is Jon Flanagan and even he's in the wilderness now. I think with Manchester United and now Manchester City just down the road, we're missing out on the top talent unfortunately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirBalon 2,692 Posted January 11, 2018 Share Posted January 11, 2018 1 minute ago, Burning Gold said: If Keita's the difference maker who'll help us qualify for the Champions League for the second year in a row, £13m is a drop in the ocean, but you could make exactly the same argument from Leipzig's point of view. I don't see why they'd let him go early. We've got two highly rated academy kids around the fringes of the first team at the moment in Trent Alexander-Arnold and Ben Woodburn, but I'll agree we haven't seen enough from the academy in recent years. The only one who's made any kind of impact (bar Trent) is Jon Flanagan and even he's in the wilderness now. I think with Manchester United and now Manchester City just down the road, we're missing out on the top talent unfortunately. For me it’s all about giving them a chance, a go! But what the Premier Keague has turned into, that’s impossible mate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFCMadLad 2,080 Posted January 11, 2018 Share Posted January 11, 2018 17 minutes ago, SirBalon said: The question here is (don’t get me wrong Liverpool fans, I love you all) is... And the academy? Does Liverpool FC have an academy? What’s the point in it! Better academy than most. Not perfect granted but Klopp has given a few youngsters a chance and a couple have made it into the first team squad as it stands. Who else out of Man U, City, Chelsea and even Arsenal and Spurs can say that lately? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cicero 5,265 Posted January 11, 2018 Share Posted January 11, 2018 Just now, LFCMadLad said: Better academy than most. Not perfect granted but Klopp has given a few youngsters a chance and a couple have made it into the first team squad as it stands. Who else out of Man U, City, Chelsea and even Arsenal and Spurs can say that lately? We have Christensen in the starting XI, and last season we had three academy players win premier league medals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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