AMG 227 Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 1 hour ago, Eco said: I didn't say it first, so I'm assuming it's a gimpy 'Indian' thing. https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=no namer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Stan 18,380 Posted February 6, 2019 Administrator Share Posted February 6, 2019 13 minutes ago, AMG said: https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=no namer 'A no-name is an insult meaning somebody is unknown as in nobody know them, commonly used by no-names themselves' By that logic: 1 - Emery and Sarri are not unknown and many in football do know them, so your logic is flawed. Lack of achievement in the game (by your standards) does not equate to being unknown. Many managers in the game haven't achieved much, or much less than Emery/Sarri have and are well known. I think your dislike for the 2 or ignorance of their standing in the game is clouding your judgement/opinion. 2 - You're also a no-name. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMG 227 Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 6 minutes ago, Stan said: 'A no-name is an insult meaning somebody is unknown as in nobody know them, commonly used by no-names themselves' By that logic: 1 - Emery and Sarri are not unknown and many in football do know them, so your logic is flawed. Lack of achievement in the game (by your standards) does not equate to being unknown. Many managers in the game haven't achieved much, or much less than Emery/Sarri have and are well known. I think your dislike for the 2 or ignorance of their standing in the game is clouding your judgement/opinion. 2 - You're also a no-name. " TOP DEFINITION no namer n. someone who is significantly insignificant; not entirely synonymous with the word randomer, but similar in demeanor. adj; synonymous with the word insignificant. "look at that cal-o no namer!" 2 - True. Thats why they didnt hire me to manage either Arsenal or Chelsea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Stan 18,380 Posted February 6, 2019 Administrator Share Posted February 6, 2019 Emery and Sarri aren't insignificant though If they hired some random from the depths of non-league you'd have a point. But these are two managers who are big names in European football at least Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMG 227 Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 10 minutes ago, Stan said: Emery and Sarri aren't insignificant though If they hired some random from the depths of non-league you'd have a point. But these are two managers who are big names in European football at least Chelsea past managers: Jose Mourinho (hired after winning the Chamions league (not the washed up Europa league) Scolari = World Cup winner Conte = Serie A winner Ancelotti = 2 x Champions League winner and 1 Serie A Rafa Benitez = Champs league winner Vilas-Boas = okay, a bit of a no-namer, however that undefeated season at Porto and the Euopa League might have helped his reputation Arsenal, you cant really compare, as they stuck with one for 22 years. But surely, there are people who have accomplished more. Such sad times that London's 3rd best club is now way higher than these established named. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cicero 5,267 Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 10 minutes ago, AMG said: But surely, there are people who have accomplished more. So who were available then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber Dan+ 1,918 Posted February 6, 2019 Subscriber Share Posted February 6, 2019 20 hours ago, Gunnersauraus said: I think the thin get with solskjaer with Cardiff was from what I can remember they were doing ok,not in the relegation zone then he took over then they finished bottom. I think that was where the doubt came from. I think it is probably a bit more than a honeymoon period I think he is probably doing things we are not noticing or don't see behind the scenes. I don't agree with ince that anyone could do the same job personally. That being said i do have doubts about how long he can keep it up. I think a top manager could do well with a small team if they have the patience but obviously they would be limited. I think sometimes there are managers who are very good at small clubs but not suitable for big clubs. E.g. Moyes Different skillsets for different clubs. This old adage that people come out with "Guardiola needs to prove it by managing someone like Northampton" well in my eyes, the chances are using the methods he does he would fail there. It's too simplistic to say one manager will fail at a club because he did at another. Different situations, circumstances and resources can dictate plenty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eco 3,008 Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 1 hour ago, AMG said: https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=no namer I know what it means, but it doesn't apply. No way were the two in question no namers. You mention Conte because he won the Serie A, but Sarri finished 2nd twice with a much tighter of a budget than the winners, Juventus. If you think you they are no-namers, then you obviously don't watch a lot of Spanish, or Italian football. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Gonzo 8,185 Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 3 hours ago, AMG said: Chelsea past managers: Jose Mourinho (hired after winning the Chamions league (not the washed up Europa league) Scolari = World Cup winner Conte = Serie A winner Ancelotti = 2 x Champions League winner and 1 Serie A Rafa Benitez = Champs league winner Vilas-Boas = okay, a bit of a no-namer, however that undefeated season at Porto and the Euopa League might have helped his reputation Arsenal, you cant really compare, as they stuck with one for 22 years. But surely, there are people who have accomplished more. Such sad times that London's 3rd best club is now way higher than these established named. Rafa won La Liga twice too 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inverted 1,776 Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 Unai Emery's biggest managerial feat is somehow managing not to win Ligue 1 in 2016-17. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMG 227 Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 1 hour ago, Dr. Gonzo said: Rafa won La Liga twice too Didnt say the list of accolades were comprehensive, but thank you for correcting me anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Gonzo 8,185 Posted February 7, 2019 Share Posted February 7, 2019 3 hours ago, AMG said: Didnt say the list of accolades were comprehensive, but thank you for correcting me anyway. I just wanted to highlight how right you are. I like Sarri though 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 7, 2019 Share Posted February 7, 2019 11 hours ago, Dr. Gonzo said: Rafa won La Liga twice too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber Dan+ 1,918 Posted February 9, 2019 Subscriber Share Posted February 9, 2019 Marco Silva isn't a bad manager. There's a genuinely unpopular one for you. I want to see how this one ages. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike 5,103 Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 Sarri turned Napoli into one of the best teams in Europe. If they had more squad depth than a puddle, than they'd probably have a league win by now. Manager of the year three times, as well, despite no trophies. Hmmm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carnivore Chris 2,606 Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 On 06/02/2019 at 16:34, AMG said: Chelsea past managers: Jose Mourinho (hired after winning the Chamions league (not the washed up Europa league) Scolari = World Cup winner Conte = Serie A winner Ancelotti = 2 x Champions League winner and 1 Serie A Rafa Benitez = Champs league winner Vilas-Boas = okay, a bit of a no-namer, however that undefeated season at Porto and the Euopa League might have helped his reputation Arsenal, you cant really compare, as they stuck with one for 22 years. But surely, there are people who have accomplished more. Such sad times that London's 3rd best club is now way higher than these established named. So the Europa League is 'washed up' but then you use it to credit AVB? I personally don't believe that Emery is the man to turn to if you wish to win, or even compete strongly for, a league title. His record in La Liga for Sevilla was poor and he even finished 2nd with PSG, which is utterly in my eyes. But he's hardly a nobody at the same time and is a very accomplished coach/manager. He also knows how to find a player for peanuts then turn them into a star. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMG 227 Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 1 minute ago, The Rebel CRS said: So the Europa League is 'washed up' but then you use it to credit AVB? I personally don't believe that Emery is the man to turn to if you wish to win, or even compete strongly for, a league title. His record in La Liga for Sevilla was poor and he even finished 2nd with PSG, which is utterly in my eyes. But he's hardly a nobody at the same time and is a very accomplished coach/manager. He also knows how to find a player for peanuts then turn them into a star. Europa league is an achievement for Porto, not the richest club.And I credited him for undefeated in the League AND Europa Cup. In the same season. Two silverware in one season is an achievement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Stan 18,380 Posted February 9, 2019 Administrator Share Posted February 9, 2019 11 minutes ago, AMG said: Europa league is an achievement for Porto, not the richest club.And I credited him for undefeated in the League AND Europa Cup. In the same season. Two silverware in one season is an achievement. But winning 3 of the same trophy in 3 consecutive seasons isn't worth anything? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Stan 18,380 Posted February 9, 2019 Administrator Share Posted February 9, 2019 Not like it was a small-time trophy for Sevilla, either. They're not the biggest club in Europe and still had to beat some decent teams to get to the finals (once it gets to the knockouts, anyway. Group stages are shite). 13/14 - beat Porto, Valencia, Real Betis, Benfica. In this season teams like Juve, Spurs & Napoli failed to get to the final. 14/15 - Gladbach, Villarreal, Zenit, Fiorentina. In this season, teams like Ajax, Inter, Roma failed to reach the final. 15/16 - Bilbao, Shakhtar, Liverpool. In this season, teams like Utd, Dortmund, Lazio, Tottenham, Leverkusen failed to reach the final. What Emery did for that Sevilla side in this period was one hell of an achievement. Not just getting to 3 finals but winning them. Something like that can't just be brushed off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carnivore Chris 2,606 Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 17 minutes ago, AMG said: Europa league is an achievement for Porto, not the richest club.And I credited him for undefeated in the League AND Europa Cup. In the same season. Two silverware in one season is an achievement. Sevilla are rich since when? He won 3 in a row with them and did it after having to buy a new squad every season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Palace Fan 3,402 Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 10 hours ago, Dan said: Marco Silva isn't a bad manager. There's a genuinely unpopular one for you. I want to see how this one ages. He's not, but marking zonal for set pieces has failed at three clubs now and his stubborn attitude to change will be his downfall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smiley Culture 1,651 Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 11 hours ago, Dan said: Marco Silva isn't a bad manager. There's a genuinely unpopular one for you. I want to see how this one ages. He’s a fraud, mate. Everything that’s happening at Everton now has happened at Watford and to a lesser extent, Hull, under him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber Dan+ 1,918 Posted February 9, 2019 Subscriber Share Posted February 9, 2019 I don't think he's perfect at all but I've just got this feeling one day he'll be viewed as decent. I'd be interested to see how he does if he was actually at somewhere for a long time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMG 227 Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 9 hours ago, Cannabis said: @AMG having a right shocker here. By my reckoning I've won this thread. Its an opinion so unpopular, its pretty much united the whole of the forum. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smiley Culture 1,651 Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 8 hours ago, Dan said: I don't think he's perfect at all but I've just got this feeling one day he'll be viewed as decent. I'd be interested to see how he does if he was actually at somewhere for a long time. I will be amazed if he gets a job in England again once Everton bin him. Screams of a job in China followed by disappearing off the face of Football by ending up in places like Cyprus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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