Stan 15,570 Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 Just 4 months in permanent charge. Owners take no shit - thought they'd give him a bit more time. Clearly out of his depth though. A good coach and thankful for all he's done. Our club is a laughing stock since winning the league Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFCMadLad 2,021 Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 Wonder who they have lined up as his replacement? Alladyce? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan 15,570 Posted October 17, 2017 Author Share Posted October 17, 2017 6 minutes ago, LFCMadLad said: Wonder who they have lined up as his replacement? Alladyce? maybe no-one at the moment. Can't see how Allardyce would improve on Shakespeare considering his style of play is what we're trying to move away from? Wanted Rafa Benitez before Shakespeara got appointed and would definitely still take him now. Club haven't officially confirmed it yet but no smoke without fire as they say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFCMike 2,777 Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 Always risky appointing a caretaker permanently after a few good results. Even more so one who has just been promoted from a coach or assistant or whatever. Not surprised, although it's a little earlier than I thought it would be. They have had a few difficult fixtures early on to be fair Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smiley Culture 1,649 Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 Poor permanent appointment really. His temporary spell yielded some good results but ultimately, was he really going to be able to replicate those results over a longer period? The last thing Leicester want now is Sam Allardyce. After a decent Champions League campaign and that Premier League win, it's got to be a foreign appointment, surely? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burning Gold 599 Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 Weird timing to do it just after the international break when they could easily have given themselves time to find and install a replacement Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toony 95 Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 39 minutes ago, Stan said: maybe no-one at the moment. Can't see how Allardyce would improve on Shakespeare considering his style of play is what we're trying to move away from? Wanted Rafa Benitez before Shakespeara got appointed and would definitely still take him now. Club haven't officially confirmed it yet but no smoke without fire as they say. Do you think Rafa Benitez is going to leave Newcastle for Leicester? Genuine question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honey Honey 3,557 Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 I personally believe that if the majority of a clubs supporters think their manager should be sacked then they should be sacked. Wisdom of the crowd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluewolf 6,266 Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 1 hour ago, HoneyNUFC said: I personally believe that if the majority of a clubs supporters think their manager should be sacked then they should be sacked. Wisdom of the crowd. Could you imagine if that was the rule... The only way a Manager could be outed was by the Supporters Vote?? Interesting idea... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Artful Dodger 1,829 Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 4 minutes ago, Toony said: Do you think Rafa Benitez is going to leave Newcastle for Leicester? Genuine question. Probably not now the club is up for sale, but there's been many murmurings of discontent from Benitez. Although I'd imagine he'd be aiming for a better opportunity than Leicester. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan 15,570 Posted October 17, 2017 Author Share Posted October 17, 2017 15 minutes ago, Toony said: Do you think Rafa Benitez is going to leave Newcastle for Leicester? Genuine question. Nope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
...Dan 730 Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 Should've went for Marco Silva while he was available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan 15,570 Posted October 17, 2017 Author Share Posted October 17, 2017 negative point about our owners with shit like this. Players had to find out from stuff online Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan 15,570 Posted October 17, 2017 Author Share Posted October 17, 2017 it's a lack of respect in any circumstance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inverted 1,709 Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 'Tis better to have managed and lost... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan 15,570 Posted October 17, 2017 Author Share Posted October 17, 2017 official statement from club Quote Michael Appleton will be in charge of the First Team as Caretaker Manager for Saturday’s Premier League trip to Swansea City, supported by First Team Coaches Mike Stowell and Adam Sadler. Leicester City Vice Chairman Aiyawatt Srivaddhanaprabha said: “Craig has been a great servant to Leicester City – during his spells as an Assistant Manager and since taking over as Manager in challenging circumstances in February. His dedication to the Club and to his work has been absolute and the contribution he made to the most successful period in Leicester City history is considerable. “However, our early promise under Craig’s management has not been consistently evident in the months since and the Board feels that, regrettably, a change is necessary to keep the Club moving forward – consistent with the long-term expectations of our supporters, Board and owners. “Craig is and will remain a very popular, respected figure at Leicester City and will be welcome back at King Power Stadium in future, both professionally and as a friend of the Club.” The Club will now begin the process of identifying and appointing its next First Team Manager and will make no further comment on the process until the appropriate time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan 15,570 Posted October 17, 2017 Author Share Posted October 17, 2017 fucking hell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan 1,710 Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 1 hour ago, Burning Gold said: Weird timing to do it just after the international break when they could easily have given themselves time to find and install a replacement That's Leicester to a tee though. 1 hour ago, Toony said: Do you think Rafa Benitez is going to leave Newcastle for Leicester? Genuine question. Not now but I don't think it would've been implausible in the summer - seeing him moaning about a lack of backing time and time again and we clearly weren't scared to spend a bit. Absolutely no way now though. ----------------------------------- Well done Leicester. The laughing stock of the league. Yet again. Rudkin has to go, there is absolutely no possible way he can stay on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirBalon 2,670 Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 The writing was on the wall the moment he took over Ranieri although you couldn't deny him the position considering what occurred immediately after he took over from the Italian coach. But he was never good enough! There are plenty of coaches out there that are good enough to take Leicester to better football than they are currently experiencing but if I were them I wouldn't take on that job now. It's not just a job of implementing your own methods but also lifting the team which is a different story. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan 1,710 Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 52 minutes ago, Cannabis said: Poor that, lack of respect for a man that pulled you from the Championship last season. And has been a big part of our backroom team throughout the last few years. Again, testament to the joke we are. I think it's time our fans stop kissing our owners arses and start to ask them what the hell's actually going on at the club. I'm not saying get them out, they have done a lot good, but I don't buy that they're these amazing owners that many make them out to be. The club's an absolute shambles and a laughing stock at the minute, how can both that and them being amazing owners be? It's one or the other, surely? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandoEFC 6,924 Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 1 hour ago, Cannabis said: And I got laughed at for nicknaming him Craig "Gone by Christmas" Shakespeare. He was out of his depth from the start, poor appointment. Still laughing at you, should have been gone by Halloween. I believe someone actually made that joke somewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan 15,570 Posted October 17, 2017 Author Share Posted October 17, 2017 Just now, SirBalon said: The writing was on the wall the moment he took over Ranieri although you couldn't deny him the position considering what occurred immediately after he took over from the Italian coach. But he was never good enough! There are plenty of coaches out there that are good enough to take Leicester to better football than they are currently experiencing but if I were them I wouldn't take on that job now. It's not just a job of implementing your own methods but also lifting the team which is a different story. isn't that the case with pretty much any manager that takes on a club in our situation though? Always bound to be a challenge; they'd be naive to think otherwise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Gonzo 6,926 Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 I don't think he was ever the right man for the job... but that's a shit way to be sacked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirBalon 2,670 Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 Just now, Stan said: isn't that the case with pretty much any manager that takes on a club in our situation though? Always bound to be a challenge; they'd be naive to think otherwise. When you guys won the Premier League, you had the foundations to build and maintain a certain modem of competitiveness. I'm not saying challenging for the title, but definitely building on the situation for the future as there was no reason to think otherwise. Ranieri should've been given a golden diamond encrusted watch for his historic legendary services and then brought in the man for the future who at that point could've been a number of biggish names. Obviously here's me talking with hindsight! Yes you're right... It's a similar situation to what any coach would find themselves with something like this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan 15,570 Posted October 17, 2017 Author Share Posted October 17, 2017 Just now, SirBalon said: When you guys won the Premier League, you had the foundations to build and maintain a certain modem of competitiveness. I'm not saying challenging for the title, but definitely building on the situation for the future as there was no reason to think otherwise. Ranieri should've been given a golden diamond encrusted watch for his historic legendary services and then brought in the man for the future who at that point could've been a number of biggish names. Obviously here's me talking with hindsight! Yes you're right... It's a similar situation to what any coach would find themselves with something like this. while I agree with the bit in bold, when I say current situation, I don't mean hark back to May/June 2016. I mean right now in the bottom 3 and lifting a team's morale as well as implementing new methods as you say. My point being that any manager should expect to do that. In fact, all that crap you mention in the first paragraph is irrelevant to the conversation . As true as it is, it's a talking point for another topic! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honey Honey 3,557 Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 Sam Allardyce 5/2 Chris Coleman 3/1 Alan Pardew 6/1 Enjoy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirBalon 2,670 Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 2 minutes ago, Stan said: while I agree with the bit in bold, when I say current situation, I don't mean hark back to May/June 2016. I mean right now in the bottom 3 and lifting a team's morale as well as implementing new methods as you say. My point being that any manager should expect to do that. In fact, all that crap you mention in the first paragraph is irrelevant to the conversation . As true as it is, it's a talking point for another topic! Yeah... But at the time a big name could've been reeled in where as now you're talking about your Sam Allerdyces of this world which is a horrible thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan 1,710 Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 The fact of the matter is the club has been absolutely devoid of any long-term direction since Pearson left. He was the first big loss and Steve Walsh was the other. It was those two and Shakespeare as a trio that had the perfect balance - they were the ones implementing sports science, an efficient scouting system that brought in players that fit a plan, cheaper, younger players with a point to prove, players with the right character. Yeah they weren't perfect, there were errors on the way, but every single year with those three we were that bit stronger than the year before. That was unquestionable. Ranieri came in and delivered something incredible, beyond anyone's dreams and one of the sporting stories of all time - but he wasn't really one for the long haul here, as mental as it sounds I feel he took something that was already on the up (and granted, made it better than I thought anyone ever could) but had no idea how to actually take it any further. Ranieri hasn't ever been a long term builder. The evidence is indisputable. Now Ranieri's gone, Walsh has gone, Pearson's gone and Shakespeare has gone. What are we left with? Rudkin (we'll get to him in a minute), Appleton and Stowell. Appleton brought in as Shakespeare's assistant and will take charge of us this weekend at Swansea. Stowell who has been here a while, can't really say I know a great deal, Rudkin, an absolute cancer on the club who seems so bulletproof that it's almost suspicious. That this bloke is the one telling Ranieri and Shakespeare that they've been sacked while overseeing a series of absolutely shambolic transfer windows and goings on at the club is a fucking disgrace. The owners should be accountable for keeping him and others on. We need a clear out behind the scenes, some footballing nous back at the club again and a gradual rebuild on the pitch. Shakespeare I hoped being a part of that trio with Walsh and Pearson would gradually bring that but unfortunately he's looked more out of his depth by the week. We need a big character here, someone who will steady the ship and assess how it can be taken forward. What I think we'll get is more short-termism, like Ranieri was* and that joke Rudkin still in a job. * Don't ever forget how most people reacted to the Ranieri appointment. He looked absolutely finished. Factor in these things: Pearson had been sacked for non-footballing reasons in late June, when pre-season training had kicked in, Leicester needed a manager and quick. Ranieri threw his name into the hat and got the job. I'm sorry, I'm scepitcal, I don't give us credit on that, it was a wildcard that worked out in a way no-one thought could possibly happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan 15,570 Posted October 17, 2017 Author Share Posted October 17, 2017 9 minutes ago, SirBalon said: Yeah... But at the time a big name could've been reeled in where as now you're talking about your Sam Allerdyces of this world which is a horrible thought. i know, but again, i'm talking about current situation. Not what we could/should have done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Palace Fan 3,025 Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 Have the people responsible for the Drinkwater/ Silva fuck up been sacked? No? Being a Manager is an easy gig to make money off the payoff but youd have to be thick skinned to put up with the shit for the short time you are employed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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