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I'm not really sure what more the owners of West Brom expect, to be honest.

Three of their twelve games have been against Chelsea, City and Arsenal, games they're not expected to win anyway and they've only lost once at home this season, on Saturday to the current champions. 

 

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18 minutes ago, Kitchen Sales said:

Imagine turning up to watch a Tony Pulis team? Imagine going away from home to watch your team managed by Tony Pulis? 

Fuck life.

West Brom have been waiting to be down the botton for this moment for ages because they were afraid of reputational damage. The damage that comes from the sort of people who haven't watched a single West Brom game but then look at the league table and say that's ok for West Brom, how dare they sack Pulis. By sacking him now they're hoping there are less people who fall for that and it won't put future managers off.

If a clubs supporters, who watch every game, want a manager gone, I don't see how anyone can dispute that just by opening up the West Brom page on the BBC website.

Have you not watched Arsenal TV? Football fans are dickheads. 

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19 minutes ago, Kitchen Sales said:

Imagine turning up to watch a Tony Pulis team? Imagine going away from home to watch your team managed by Tony Pulis? 

Fuck life.

West Brom have been waiting to be down the botton for this moment for ages because they were afraid of reputational damage. The damage that comes from the sort of people who haven't watched a single West Brom game but then look at the league table and say that's ok for West Brom, how dare they sack Pulis. By sacking him now they're hoping there are less people who fall for that and it won't put future managers off.

If a clubs supporters, who watch every game, want a manager gone, I don't see how anyone can dispute that just by opening up the West Brom page on the BBC website.

Glad someone said it before me.

 

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Harvsky    1,907
5 minutes ago, Smiley Culture said:

Have you not watched Arsenal TV? Football fans are dickheads. 

Some of them are, but once something takes grip of a large number it is fair to call it wisdom of the crowd.

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23 minutes ago, Kitchen Sales said:

Some of them are, but once something takes grip of a large number it is fair to call it wisdom of the crowd.

In fairness, WBA's crowd for Saturday was 1,775 down from last year's game with Chelsea. That's significant really. 

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LFCMike    330
1 hour ago, Smiley Culture said:

I'm not really sure what more the owners of West Brom expect, to be honest.

Three of their twelve games have been against Chelsea, City and Arsenal, games they're not expected to win anyway and they've only lost once at home this season, on Saturday to the current champions. 

 

I don't think it's just about the start to this season. Their form since the end of February is horrific

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Lucas    678

He had to go. No question. I pay to watch my team in a lower division win and lose games but at least we have passion and excitement. How can you have any passion following West Brom? Is it any wonder they have empty seats at home games? Why pay to watch 90 minutes of boredom?

West Brom fans must be sick to death of seeing their team have 30% of the ball and line up for a game with the objective not  to lose, rather than play to win. It's uninspiring and turgid. They have never accumulated 50pts or more in the PL. But whilst they grinded out results, he got away with it.

The obvious argument for some will be that he took the club to 10th last season. But last season was appalling when you consider that from Southampton in 8th to Watford in 17th, only six points separated 10 teams. It could easily have been them finishing much lower. The league was dross and West Brom's finish papered over the cracks.

This year, that's not happening. Bar two wins at the start, they are no longer grinding our results. They are still struggling to create and score goals. And even worse for them, their biggest strength in keeping clean sheets has gone. They are conceding goals and in doing so, losing to teams they would expect to beat in Brighton and Huddersfield and failing to beat teams that they matched last season like West Ham, Watford, Leicester, Stoke and Southampton.

Two wins in their last 21 games. You tell me how many managers aren't going to be in trouble with a record like that. He's had his chance.

Tony Pulis is very good at what he does. Stops goals leaking at struggling teams and stabilises them. But West Brom have been stabilised for three seasons now and show no sign of going forward. Just because he has a clean record of never being relegated, that shouldn't mean you are exempt.

 

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Dan    629

2 wins in 21 games is absolutely shocking. I said it in the sack race thread but West Brom should've been past focusing on survival years ago. They've been in the league now since 2010 and their aim is still solely to survive in the league, while watching clubs like Watford and Burnley surpass them?

What they've become is the sole reason I'd never go with Pulis. I do think he'd have kept them up (despite this run) but it creates a mindset where doing just that is considered to be some kind of achievement - it isn't, there are some shocking sides in this league, when you see sides like West Ham, Stoke, even us (who turned up for a third of two of the last three seasons) survive comfortably every year you really can't look at it like it's some sort of achievement. It reeks of having no ambition at all other than to make up the numbers. Strive for better.

He'll be back in the league within a couple of years I'd imagine, although the two most likely candidates of clubs I'd fancy him to end up at are actually his two previous clubs before West Brom so maybe not.

Correct decision for me.

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Dan    629
7 hours ago, Smiley Culture said:

I'm not really sure what more the owners of West Brom expect, to be honest.

Three of their twelve games have been against Chelsea, City and Arsenal, games they're not expected to win anyway and they've only lost once at home this season, on Saturday to the current champions. 

 

West Brom for me should be trying to nab that 7th spot while Everton are in turmoil. They're not even close. They haven't progressed whereas smaller clubs like Burnley and Watford have.

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Dan    629
Just now, Batard said:

Absolutely ruined my bet on Pellegrino going next 

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No doubt he's gone tomorrow.

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Batard    722
1 minute ago, Dan said:

x2

No doubt he's gone tomorrow.

What were the odds on Pulis prior to the Chelsea game? 7/4?

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Dan    629
Just now, Batard said:

What were the odds on Pulis prior to the Chelsea game? 7/4?

4/1 rings a bell, it was between him and Paul Clement.

Clement will be next, surely. I reckon they lose this weekend and he's gone.

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Dan    629
6 hours ago, Kitchen Sales said:

Imagine turning up to watch a Tony Pulis team? Imagine going away from home to watch your team managed by Tony Pulis? 

Fuck life.

West Brom have been waiting to be down the botton for this moment for ages because they were afraid of reputational damage. The damage that comes from the sort of people who haven't watched a single West Brom game but then look at the league table and say that's ok for West Brom, how dare they sack Pulis. By sacking him now they're hoping there are less people who fall for that and it won't put future managers off.

If a clubs supporters, who watch every game, want a manager gone, I don't see how anyone can dispute that just by opening up the West Brom page on the BBC website.

It's deep rooted into the English game now. Only a select few clubs are allowed to show any kind of ambition. Protect our wonderful status quo!!!!!

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Dr. Gonzo    1,174

Can't say I feel particularly bad for him. The fewer managers like him in the top flight, the better.

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Dickie    224
3 minutes ago, Kitchen Sales said:

Allardyce favourite. A fat version of Pulis.

That's fucking like.... the most lateral movement in history. Fucking that's like saying boy I don't like Roy Hodgson, let's go with Harry Redknapp.

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Dan    629

I think Allardyce has a bit more about him than Pulis does. Not the appointment that they'd want though and that's totally understandable.

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Rick    390

Pointless sacking a manager like Pulls for fat sham. I think Allardyce is the better manager, but if you make this decision then you HAVE to start showing some fucking ambition. 

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Moyes, Hughes, Pulis, Big Sam, Hodgson, Pardew.

What an illustrious list. xD

Soon as the league rids itself of these the better. Pulis will find employment in the second half of the season, no doubt there'll be a club desperate to stay up.

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Batard    722
2 minutes ago, carefreeluke said:

Moyes, Hughes, Pulis, Big Sam, Hodgson, Pardew.

What an illustrious list. xD

Soon as the league rids itself of these the better. Pulis will find employment in the second half of the season, no doubt there'll be a club desperate to stay up.

Garth Crooks was wanking over how good Pardew is in latest article, saying he ought to be a shoe in at another Premier League club. What a moron.

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Stan    2,887
3 minutes ago, carefreeluke said:

Moyes, Hughes, Pulis, Big Sam, Hodgson, Pardew.

What an illustrious list. xD

Soon as the league rids itself of these the better. Pulis will find employment in the second half of the season, no doubt there'll be a club desperate to stay up.

but then there'll be no British managers left :(:(:(

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Batard    722
Just now, Stan said:

but then there'll be no British managers left :(:(:(

Eddie Howe and Sean Dyche can carry the torch 

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Stan    2,887
3 minutes ago, The Palace Fan said:

Michael O'Neill?

isn't he going for Scotland job?

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32 minutes ago, Stan said:

isn't he going for Scotland job?

No disrespect to Scotland but I reckon a job with an established Premier League team would be the preferential choice. 

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RandoEFC    1,187

Allardyce to take over at West Brom while Pulis goes back to Wales to manage Swansea when they sack Clement in a month or so. It's a never ending cycle.

Not sure who goes to Southampton when Pellegrino gets the boot. Probably Mark Hughes if it's been long enough for his sacking from Stoke to have blown over, or maybe Pardew? Or Pardew to take over at Stoke with Craig Shakespeare and Sammy Lee as assistants?

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Dan    629

Only British manager Southampton would go for is Howe. I'll make a bold prediction and say Pellegrino doesn't last the season and they go for Howe.

Pardew I have never ever understood as a manager. I really haven't got a clue what anyone sees in him.

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5 hours ago, Dan said:

Only British manager Southampton would go for is Howe. I'll make a bold prediction and say Pellegrino doesn't last the season and they go for Howe.

Pardew I have never ever understood as a manager. I really haven't got a clue what anyone sees in him.

Predicting a Manager gets sacked is hardly bold prediction unless it's Wenger.

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Toony    95

He's a decent manager at getting results (not this season obviously), but I don't imagine he's the type of manager you'd enjoy playing under either really. I'm not sure whether it's the type of club to tempt Allardyce out of 'retirement' either, I think the job has to be perfect for him or I don't think he's interested.

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Would be interesting to see who they sign next. 

There's no point sacking your manager if you intend to appoint Allardyce,  Moyes,  Maclaren, or Hodgson,  Redknapp. 

The whole 'let's hire one of these proven men to get to seventeen'  is such a short sighted idea. 

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