Bluewolf Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 4 minutes ago, LFCMadLad said: You’ve got to be joking right? There was a stat came out the other day that showed that since Coutinho came to the Premiere League, he’s scored more goals from outside the box than anyone else. His long range shooting is phenomenal. His set peices are phenomenal. Theres a reason he’s just become the second highest transfer of all time compared to Hazard who has never really generated any interest whatsoever. Hazards xG Efficiency was 231% compared to Coutinhos 175% though??? Even Dele Alli's was 185% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asura Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 4 minutes ago, Chaaay AFC said: I don't know who is worse Elneny or Iwobi, both nowhere near good enough. I hope to God we bring in another midfielder with Coquelin leaving, otherwise we are stuck with playing Elneny... Iwobi, Elneny, Xhaka, Chambers ... everytime I see these names I feel like Wenger is a coach who manages U7 boys team on a sunday without any game plan and gives them a pep talk before the game which says "go have fun boys" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluewolf Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 Blow the whistle early please ref.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFCMadLad Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 1 minute ago, Asura said: I havent said he cant score from outside the box. I said thats probably the thing he is good at, hazard is better than him in every other aspect. Like you said Hazard can seem a little dis interested but he is definitely the superior player amongst the two. He became second highest transfer only because of Neymar's sale, if not, then Barcelona wouldnt have bought him for that number. Liverpool knew they had money and hence that price tag. He probably would have been sold for the price of what the likes of Pogba went for if not for that extra cash from Neymar's exit. They play in similar positions, why did Barca go for Coutinho? I’m not sure what aspects you think Hazard is better? He maybe quicker and stronger but that’s about it. Coutinho pisses all over him in everything else. Passing, tight spaces, versatility, shooting, set peices, everything really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Stan Posted January 10, 2018 Author Administrator Share Posted January 10, 2018 that looks like a penalty on Fabregas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Stan Posted January 10, 2018 Author Administrator Share Posted January 10, 2018 maybe not. Welbeck gets enough of the ball so not a foul. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluewolf Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 4 minutes ago, LFCMadLad said: They play in similar positions, why did Barca go for Coutinho? I’m not sure what aspects you think Hazard is better? He maybe quicker and stronger but that’s about it. Coutinho pisses all over him in everything else. Passing, tight spaces, versatility, shooting, set peices, everything really. Interesting.... Hazard was better in Aerial battles... Better at Take Ons and Interceptions... He was even better at Fouls won.. Clearances he had Hazard beat but given the state of Pools back line that's not really Much of a surprise... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cicero Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 9 minutes ago, LFCMadLad said: They play in similar positions, why did Barca go for Coutinho? I’m not sure what aspects you think Hazard is better? He maybe quicker and stronger but that’s about it. Coutinho pisses all over him in everything else. Passing, tight spaces, versatility, shooting, set peices, everything really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asura Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 3 minutes ago, LFCMadLad said: They play in similar positions, why did Barca go for Coutinho? I’m not sure what aspects you think Hazard is better? He maybe quicker and stronger but that’s about it. Coutinho pisses all over him in everything else. Passing, tight spaces, versatility, shooting, set peices, everything really. I dont know why, you should ask @SirBalon I think Hazard is a better dribbler (the tight spaces aspect you mentioned) also believe he is a better passer, better in winning balls. Im not sure what you meant by versatility but I will give Coutinho the long range shooting, he is definitely better than hazard there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HK85 Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 22 minutes ago, LFCMadLad said: Theres a reason he’s just become the second highest transfer of all time compared to Hazard who has never really generated any interest whatsoever. And one of the reasons why he became second highest is because these clubs know they can take your players whenever they want and there's nothing you can do. It's harder to prise Hazard away from the Champions than Coutinho. And cheaper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluewolf Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 What else we got... Dribbling All three of these players like to take on defenders. No feint hearts here. But Eden Hazard is simply a terror. Not only does he dribble more frequently than Alli and Coutinho, he does it with a higher success rate. The results are not close. Hazard’s dribbling skills are so significantly superior to Coutinho with 143 successful dribbles to 70, respectively, that the odds this difference could be attributed to chance or be accidental is 175-1. Pissed all over Coutinho there as well... I will see what else I can find.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaaay AFC Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 12 minutes ago, Asura said: Iwobi, Elneny, Xhaka, Chambers ... everytime I see these names I feel like Wenger is a coach who manages U7 boys team on a sunday without any game plan and gives them a pep talk before the game which says "go have fun boys" Disagree with you on Chambers & Xhaka, both very good players for me. Would really flourish under a new coach in my opinion. Drab game but a good result, good discipline from the team and good gameplan/game management from Wenger. Did very well with what he had. Super performance from the 3 CB's today, Mustafi especially led them very well. All to play for in the second leg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFCMadLad Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 1 minute ago, Bluewolf said: Interesting.... Hazard was better in Aerial battles... Better at Take Ons and Interceptions... He was even better at Fouls won.. Clearances he had Hazard beat but given the state of Pools back line that's not really Much of a surprise... Let’s not forget though that Coutinho played various positions and for much of the time in a much weaker team. Hazard has been playing for a club surrounded by players that have won the league twice in three years. Coutinho though has been our one consistent in a team that has won fuck all since he’s been here. It makes a difference! You watch him at Barcelona! He’ll prove just how good he is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pep Talk Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 Not long to wait now Alexis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asura Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 Just now, Chaaay AFC said: Disagree with you on Chambers & Xhaka, both very good players for me. Would really flourish under a new coach in my opinion. Drab game but a good result, good discipline from the team and good gameplan/game management from Wenger. Did very well with what he had. Super performance from the 3 CB's today, Mustafi especially led them very well. All to play for in the second leg. Truth be told I was very excited about Xhaka when he first joined, I read somewhere that he was a great midfielder in Germany who has the leader capabilities with aggression, I thought he would be solid in the middle like Vieira. Never rated chambers though, always looks a liability who cant be trusted at the back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cicero Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 20 attempts. All the more reason to go after Mahrez or another influential player Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Storts Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 I just don’t get it. How do people even enjoy football when Harry Kane isn’t up front. It’s just painful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluewolf Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 Just now, Storts said: I just don’t get it. How do people even enjoy football when Harry Kane isn’t up front. It’s just painful Hate to say it but I think I agree with you.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Stan Posted January 10, 2018 Author Administrator Share Posted January 10, 2018 Just now, Cicero said: 20 attempts. All the more reason to go after Mahrez or another influential player mate seriously just buy the squad we won the league with. 2 so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6666 Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 Not much happened in the game other than VAR proving Chelsea shouldn't have had a penalty last week and VAR preventing Chelsea getting a bullshit penalty today. Hopefully we get players back from injury for the next game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cicero Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 6 minutes ago, LFCMadLad said: Let’s not forget though that Coutinho played various positions and for much of the time in a much weaker team. Hazard has been playing for a club surrounded by players that have won the league twice in three years. Coutinho though has been our one consistent in a team that has won fuck all since he’s been here. It makes a difference! You watch him at Barcelona! He’ll prove just how good he is. Bollocks. Coutinho has by far been surrounded by more quality attacking players than Hazard. Suarez, Sterling, Sturridge, Lallana, Mane, Salah shit all over Costa, Remy, Demba Ba, Willian, Oscar, and Pedro. Not to mention played under two managers who implement attacking a free flowing football vs a conservative manager in Mourinho and a disiplined manager under Conte. Yet Hazard STILL has better statistics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluewolf Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 Just when I thought our game against Norwich was an all time low we get this display... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFCMadLad Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 1 minute ago, Cicero said: Bollocks. Coutinho has by far been surrounded by more quality attacking players than Hazard. Suarez, Sterling, Sturridge, Lallana, Mane, Salah shit all over Costa, Remy, Demba Ba, Willian, Oscar, and Pedro. Not to mention played under two managers who implement attacking a free flowing football vs a conservative manager in Mourinho and a disiplined manager under Conte. Yet Hazard STILL has better statistics. Ok, it’s only my opinion, but I’d take Coutinho over Hazard. Both are fantastic players but I just think Coutinho has a better all round game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluewolf Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 6 minutes ago, 6666 said: Not much happened in the game other than VAR proving Chelsea shouldn't have had a penalty last week and VAR preventing Chelsea getting a bullshit penalty today. Hopefully we get players back from injury for the next game. Well we never got the penalty so not sure what the fuss is about.. He even waved play on at the time before getting involved with VAR?? The decision at the time was the right one... The replay showed he got the ball first then the man after... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cicero Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 Christ, I almost want Real to buy Hazard and make him their #10 just to prove my point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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