Guest Posted April 3, 2018 Share Posted April 3, 2018 1 minute ago, RandoEFC said: My logic isn't that Ronaldo is better than Messi because he isn't. I don't even like Ronaldo. My only beef here is the double standard from the majority of people on this forum which I explained in the previous page. I agree that this forum is full of "Messi-lovers" but that's not really a reason to complain. They are a fan of the player. To be honest, most of the reason people act like that is because of Teso who you could argue goes over the top. That's perhaps one reason people are unfair on Ronaldo here, but again they are a fan of Messi. I'm not a "fan" say of either, but I do acknowledge who is the better player to join the debate. Nothing wrong with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 3, 2018 Share Posted April 3, 2018 @RandoEFC Point in case Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Stan Posted April 3, 2018 Author Administrator Share Posted April 3, 2018 2 minutes ago, Blue said: Actually, the Messi-Ronaldo debate is wonderful in my eyes. We have 2 wonderful footballers playing the game in our moment, it can get heated and frustrating for a lot but we can look back at this moment in years time to think about who was the better of the 2, when we could possibly have only one clear best player in the world. I love football debate and Messi vs Ronaldo is our version of Nintendo vs Sega. This will go on years and years, so lets enjoy it in its prime rather than complain about it. more fans need to appreciate seeing both playing at the same time. I prefer Messi but can always appreciate how talented and committed and driven Ronaldo is which has taken him to the elite level of the game. There's always gonna a be a divide, which is fine. it's when it gets to the point of negating either player's quality where it gets tiresome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber RandoEFC+ Posted April 3, 2018 Subscriber Share Posted April 3, 2018 Just now, Blue said: I agree that this forum is full of "Messi-lovers" but that's not really a reason to complain. They are a fan of the player. To be honest, most of the reason people act like that is because of Teso who you could argue goes over the top. That's perhaps one reason people are unfair on Ronaldo here, but again they are a fan of Messi. I'm not a "fan" say of either, but I do acknowledge who is the better player to join the debate. Nothing wrong with that. I'm not complaining, Messi probably is the best player ever though I wouldn't presume to come to that conclusion myself as there are generations of footballers I've never seen play. However because of idiots that still try and perpetuate the Ronaldo v Messi argument, people don't give Ronaldo the credit he deserves, I assume because they don't want to breathe life back into the debate that isn't a debate. I'm here to balance things out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 3, 2018 Share Posted April 3, 2018 1 minute ago, RandoEFC said: I'm not complaining, Messi probably is the best player ever though I wouldn't presume to come to that conclusion myself as there are generations of footballers I've never seen play. However because of idiots that still try and perpetuate the Ronaldo v Messi argument, people don't give Ronaldo the credit he deserves, I assume because they don't want to breathe life back into the debate that isn't a debate. I'm here to balance things out. I agree, people are unfair on him. I don't think anyone on this forum is though, as well all acknowledge he is still a top player who steps up in big games but not the same as before. I'm just speaking football fans in general. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Artful Dodger Posted April 3, 2018 Share Posted April 3, 2018 12 minutes ago, Cicero said: Me too. However I wouldn't have the audacity to call myself the best in history. It's clear that Ronaldo has a borderline personality disorder, I think we should sympathise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc Posted April 3, 2018 Share Posted April 3, 2018 Reported Blue for taking another topic off topic. Let's just enjoy the GOAT Ronaldo and Messi. No point entering the debate again it's boring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 3, 2018 Share Posted April 3, 2018 Just now, Marc said: Reported Blue for taking another topic off topic. Yeah, good luck with that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Profesor Posted April 3, 2018 Share Posted April 3, 2018 4 minutes ago, Blue said: Actually, the Messi-Ronaldo debate is wonderful in my eyes. We have 2 wonderful footballers playing the game in our moment, it can get heated and frustrating for a lot but we can look back at this moment in years time to think about who was the better of the 2, when we could possibly have only one clear best player in the world. I love football debate and Messi vs Ronaldo is our version of Nintendo vs Sega. This will go on years and years, so lets enjoy it in its prime rather than complain about it. I get what you're saying and personally I think Messi is the best player of his generation. I mean, the Messi-Ronaldo can be interesting, but when fanatism enters the discussion and all Ronaldo's qualities and achievements are denied or mocked it's problematic. I certainly see that tendence among Barcelona fans on Twitter and I hate it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cicero Posted April 3, 2018 Share Posted April 3, 2018 6 minutes ago, RandoEFC said: Messi scores his fair share of tap ins and goals from inside the six yard box whilst Ronaldo has also scored countless spectacular goals and goals from outside the box in his career. Ronaldo scored a tap in tonight and Messi scored a long range effort at the weekend. What's your point? Are you trying to say that tonight's goal represents all of Ronaldos goals and Sunday night's goal represents all of Messi goals? Because I could just as easily post a video of Messi scoring a goal from three yards out and act like that one piece of evidence out of the hundreds of goals he has scored in his career proves something... Not really my point. Aside the hilarious fact that 70% of Ronaldo's goals in 2018 were a tap in or a penalty, it isn't just goals for Messi. His ability trancends his goal scoring. His vision, his dribbling, his passing range, are easily just as important as his goal scoring. This isn't discrediting Ronaldo, as he will always be the best LW in history in my eyes. But he isn't on the same pedestal as Messi. So when he wins awards ahead of those, where on a footballing element are more deserving choices, and has the audacity to claim himself the best in history, you can see why it pulls a few feathers when the majority he's done this season is either score from a penalty or be at the right place at the right time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Stan Posted April 3, 2018 Author Administrator Share Posted April 3, 2018 can we all agree that Asamoah is a load of shite and nowhere near good enough for this Juve side? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asura Posted April 3, 2018 Share Posted April 3, 2018 30 minutes ago, RandoEFC said: A shame Messi didn't score the exact same goal Ronaldo did. Would love to read through six pages of "Lionel fucking Messi does it again." and "That's the 17th different team Messi has scored against in the first five minutes of a Champions League game #GOAT". Just because you wanted someone to post something like this, im going to do it. Messi competes with Ronaldo, Salah and others for most goals in a season Messi competes with De Bruyne, Silva, Ozil for most assists in a season Messi competes with Neymar, Hazard for most dribbles in a season Messi competes with Eriksen, Ozil and De Bruyne for most chances created in a season Messi competes with Verratti, De Bruyne for most through balls in a season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Stan Posted April 3, 2018 Author Administrator Share Posted April 3, 2018 WHAT A FUCKING GOAL BY RONALDO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 3, 2018 Share Posted April 3, 2018 Just now, El_Loco said: I get what you're saying and personally I think Messi is the best player of his generation. I mean, the Messi-Ronaldo can be interesting, but when fanatism enters the discussion and all Ronaldo's qualities and achievements are denied or mocked it's problematic. I certainly see that tendence among Barcelona fans on Twitter and I hate it. I can't stand most Barcelona and Real Madrid fans, but I'm just defending the Messi fans on this forum. I think they are just having a bit of banter about Ronaldo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asura Posted April 3, 2018 Share Posted April 3, 2018 What a goal by Ronaldo, is this his first ever overhead goal? Credits to Juventus fans for applauding him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber RandoEFC+ Posted April 3, 2018 Subscriber Share Posted April 3, 2018 1 minute ago, Cicero said: Not really my point. Aside the hilarious fact that 70% of Ronaldo's goals in 2018 were a tap in or a penalty, it isn't just goals for Messi. His ability trancends his goal scoring. His vision, his dribbling, his passing range, are easily just as important as his goal scoring. This isn't discrediting Ronaldo, as he will always be the best LW in history in my eyes. But he isn't on the same pedestal as Messi. So when he wins awards ahead of those, where on a footballing element are more deserving choices, and has the audacity to claim himself the best in history, you can see why it pulls a few feathers when the majority he's done this season is either score from a penalty or be at the right place at the right time. I get what you're saying. Like I say I don't even like Ronaldo but it's a bit tedious on here that every Messi goal gets ten posts of admiration then Ronaldo scores in a quarter final in the Champions League and people shrug it off. I don't need to repeat myself though, see above. He's just scored again anyway. Does that one go down as a tap in or a bit of magic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Stan Posted April 3, 2018 Author Administrator Share Posted April 3, 2018 Dybala sent off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cicero Posted April 3, 2018 Share Posted April 3, 2018 The twat couldn't have scored it at a more convenient time. What a fucking finish. Still a tap in though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Profesor Posted April 3, 2018 Share Posted April 3, 2018 Terrible match from Douglas Costa so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 3, 2018 Share Posted April 3, 2018 4 minutes ago, Cannabis said: Just be grateful he hasn't brought Peru into it. I did actually Try and look for it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluewolf Posted April 3, 2018 Share Posted April 3, 2018 I do hate him but what a great goal... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cicero Posted April 3, 2018 Share Posted April 3, 2018 Well that's Dybala out of the World Cup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber RandoEFC+ Posted April 3, 2018 Subscriber Share Posted April 3, 2018 Dybala off. This tie is dead which is a shame. Juventus disappointing at home, defensively and going forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Artful Dodger Posted April 3, 2018 Share Posted April 3, 2018 Incredible goal. Juventus have been terrible, much like against Spurs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 3, 2018 Share Posted April 3, 2018 Juventus have been poor all season to be fair. They've just been effective, but this side is nothing on what they were last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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