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14 hours ago, Teso dos Bichos said:

It should of been enough after today's result against that cupcake team. He wont make it past Christmas if the team struggles versus spurs and citeh. 

That would be a shocker really since they can't beat anyone at the moment. Of course they will struggle mate, and i am not even taking the piss. If he doesn't manage to get results against these team and i am not talking about draws he is gone. No reason to keep him, this team has no head or tail and they look terrible in every department. 

As you said Christmas at best if he doesn't produce a miracle.

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9 minutes ago, Cicero said:

They’ll beat Spurs 

Genuinely think we’ll get rinsed. We only turn up for the big teams :ph34r:

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18 hours ago, DeadLinesman said:

Question for everyone, not just the United contingent. What do you honestly think it will take for Solskjaer to get sacked? Keep thinking to myself we should be doing better than this and then I look at the side and think 9th is about right. There’s absolutely no evidence to suggest these players can do better than what they are currently delivering.

A bad losing run. I can get what you’re saying about there’s no evidence the players can do better, but some of these performances are just inexcusable.

3-4 losses in a row and I think Ole’s a dead man walking.

Honestly though it doesn’t address the larger problem. Ed Woodward shouldn’t be making football decisions at United

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2 hours ago, DeadLinesman said:

We should lose to Spurs and Citeh at least.

The one handy thing about Spurs right now is that while Mourinho's gotten them back to winning ways again... they still look a bit wonky at the back - so there's always a chance to sneak a few goals. But if I were a United fan, what I'd be worried about is you just know Jose Mourinho would absolutely love to leave egg all over Ed Woodward's face and absolutely spank United here. And it's one of those weird situations where I fully believe the opposing manager knows the squad's strengths and weaknesses better than the manager (that comes off as a slight against Solksjaer… and it is - he's got no business managing Man Utd).

The same is actually true of City too. But the thing about City is their attack is so ridiculous that any time they go forward they look like there's a good chance you're going to score - and if Ole does the thing he's tended to do where he sets the side up to sit deep and counter, yeah I think United will have 3-4 really good chances in the match... but City will have a ridiculous number of chances and I'm not sure how your defense would do being under constant pressure from that relentless attack.

I'm not a betting man, but if I were... I'd guess you do lose to both of them. If that happens, there's a good chance you're looking weirdly close to the bottom of the table and that might be enough pressure to get rid of Solksjaer. The time to get rid of him is now - Poch is available and there's a transfer window coming up.

Tbh, this is all reminding me a lot of Hodgson's time with us. A manager that's clearly out of his depth at the level he's expected to perform. A media that's really friendly to him despite this obvious out-of-depthness - which buys him far more time than he really should have. Solskjaer's recent media comments have been strangely Hodgson-at-Liverpool-esque… recently he came out and said he's not bothered with where United are in the league table. That's absolutely absurd to me, it's a step away from Hodgson's "we're not too big for a relegation battle."

United are too big for a relegation battle and if they lose the next 2, I don't know if the reality of the league table can be ignored anymore. But this is all really why a manager like Solksjaer with really really limited experience at this level shouldn't have been given the job after a turnaround of fortunes during the honeymoon period at the club - that was the opportune time to just see out the season and ride the high of an unpopular manager being replaced by a club legend for as long as that would last, while scoping out which top tier managers would be interested in spending a serious amount of cash rebuilding United.

Instead, United have once again spent a serious amount of cash and are now looking like they'll be handing another massive pile of cash to a new manager. You don't end up with a string of expensive rebuilds that keep failing this badly without serious problems above the manager - although right now, I think the ineptitude of the current manager is probably the most pressing issue at United.

There's Poch or Allegri out there - they might not want to come into the job mid-season, but the club should be working on getting on of them into the club ASAP. The issue there is if they want to come in at the end of the season, I still think Solksjaer needs to be sacked and a new interim manager put in place. Because for as good as the form was when he first came in, that honeymoon period is well and truly over - I think he's lost the squad and tactically he's not shown anything special. So really, you'd want whoever is willing to come in to take the job right now.

Honestly, it's astounding that a club as wealthy and profitable as United has really been so mismanaged from the top down. When did David Gill step down, because if Ferguson managed to still be successful working with the current crop of morons at the club... he deserves a fucking medal of some sort ("but Gonzo, he's already been knighted"). It's honestly so careless from the Glazers because you've spent the money to be so much better than you are. There really is no excuse other than incompetence. The one silver lining is that while the club have been just so ridiculously careless... you've still got the resources to be successful if you ever do hire competent people again.

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Why is there a rumor going about United had planned a testimonial for Phil Jones but the player denied wanting one because he feared no one would go...?

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1 hour ago, Cicero said:

Why is there a rumor going about United had planned a testimonial for Phil Jones but the player denied wanting one because he feared no one would go...?

A reporter from The Athletic reported it - and considering the reputation those journalists have, everyone else is running with it as it's likely true.

A bit sad for him, tbh, to spend 10 years at a club and have a few winners medals, but mostly being known as a lad who didn't really deliver on the potential he had as a young player (which is actually pretty mental considering how great he was when he came through at Blackburn) and instead being known for making some pretty dire errors and having a funny face while you play.

But also definitely a bit funny.

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2 hours ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

A reporter from The Athletic reported it - and considering the reputation those journalists have, everyone else is running with it as it's likely true.

A bit sad for him, tbh, to spend 10 years at a club and have a few winners medals, but mostly being known as a lad who didn't really deliver on the potential he had as a young player (which is actually pretty mental considering how great he was when he came through at Blackburn) and instead being known for making some pretty dire errors and having a funny face while you play.

But also definitely a bit funny.

xD

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That Ole plus a lot of other issues with that overpaid toss-pot. 

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Manchester United boss Solskjaer says he wants the club to be quicker in the transfer market, hinting that executive vice-chairman Ed Woodward left deals late last summer. (Evening Standard)

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On 02/12/2019 at 07:33, DeadLinesman said:

We should lose to Spurs and Citeh at least.

Bad news mate.

But if you could beat Citeh that would be cool

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While others struggle versus top teams, rashford steps up to the plate time after time... 9 goals against top teams (plus lcfc) more youngsters like him, Greenwood, and scottie are anxious to get a chance. 

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I think it says something about either Solksjaer or the squad that they really only turn up for the big games and look pretty shite against clubs you'd expect them to look good against.

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5 hours ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

I think it says something about either Solksjaer or the squad that they really only turn up for the big games and look pretty shite against clubs you'd expect them to look good against.

That's the problem in a nutshell.   Great performance today, but its frustrating that we don't show up for games against teams we should be expected to beat.   Is it that Solsksjaer can not motivate the players to turn out week to week, or is it the players can only get up for top clubs.

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1 hour ago, Redcanuck said:

That's the problem in a nutshell.   Great performance today, but its frustrating that we don't show up for games against teams we should be expected to beat.   Is it that Solsksjaer can not motivate the players to turn out week to week, or is it the players can only get up for top clubs.

Imo part of the problem is the tactics. United seem to be at their best against the sides that are more open and come at them with possession, then being absolutely ruthless on the counter. 

But up against sides that on most days would just be content with winning a point at United that come and are going to sit back deep and force United to come at them... when typically that’s what all of us watching English football would expect United to thrive.

Tbh I don’t know if this is a problem with just Solksjaer, or an overall lack of creativity at United right now - this problem existed under Mourinho too. Or if it’s a mentality issue, because his start was pretty fucking impressive.

However you slice it, it’s certainly a strange and interesting issue. Because you certainly can’t say a side is all that bad when they perform in big matches. But it’s a weird consistency issue.

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On 05/12/2019 at 05:44, Redcanuck said:

That's the problem in a nutshell.   Great performance today, but its frustrating that we don't show up for games against teams we should be expected to beat.   Is it that Solsksjaer can not motivate the players to turn out week to week, or is it the players can only get up for top clubs.

Is he still your manager for the future?

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On 06/12/2019 at 10:20, The Liquidator said:

Is he still your manager for the future?

I do not think so, but I dont do the hiring and firing,    To me he has not shown he has the tactical nuance to break down sides that dont come out to play or to get players to play to their ability when we are not playing big clubs.  Beating Spurs and City has given him breathing room and he will keep his job til near the end of the season if not longer.  I suspect the board will give him the next two transfer windows to bring in the 4 or 5 top players we still need.

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Former Manchester United striker Carlos Tevez has revealed that his then team-mate Wayne Rooney gifted him a Lamborghini after the Argentina international was mocked by the squad for driving an Audi. (Mail on Sunday)

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On 05/12/2019 at 03:16, True Blue said:

Watch United snatch a point on the weekend

#trusttheprocess

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Trust THE MF PROCESS 

 

 

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3 hours ago, True Blue said:

Rashford scored ten in the league, but five from the spot? 

I'm pretty sure I remember Teso using penalties against the goals tally Vardy racked up in past few seasons. Saying they don't count xD. May have been on the old forum. 

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On 08/12/2019 at 00:41, Redcanuck said:

I do not think so, but I dont do the hiring and firing,    To me he has not shown he has the tactical nuance to break down sides that dont come out to play or to get players to play to their ability when we are not playing big clubs.  Beating Spurs and City has given him breathing room and he will keep his job til near the end of the season if not longer.  I suspect the board will give him the next two transfer windows to bring in the 4 or 5 top players we still need.

What do you think of Grealish?

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2 hours ago, The Liquidator said:

What do you think of Grealish?

He scored a very nice goal against United but I have not seen  him play many times.  He plays on the left and cuts into the middle a lot and we have players that do that.  We need somebody who can do that from the right.  His crosses are weak and so is his tackling and he is not young as I thought.    

Does he even want to leave Villa ? He is a Brummie and he's been with Villa since he was 6 years old.

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On 09/12/2019 at 18:13, Redcanuck said:

He scored a very nice goal against United but I have not seen  him play many times.  He plays on the left and cuts into the middle a lot and we have players that do that.  We need somebody who can do that from the right.  His crosses are weak and so is his tackling and he is not young as I thought.    

Does he even want to leave Villa ? He is a Brummie and he's been with Villa since he was 6 years old.

Dont rate most of the players you already have.

One of the few players it would trouble me if he signed for you.

 

 

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Man Utd XI: Romero, Tuanzebe, Rojo, Jones, Williams, Matic, Garner, James, Mata, Rashford, Greenwood for the next match, both Dalot and Pogba are close to being fully recovered... boy this is about to get interesting,  buckle up. B|

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xD sancho, Mason Greenwood, and Martinelli are too busy putting up numbers (top three youngsters in all of Europe) while that overrated youngster at Barcelona only has a silly release clause to show for I wouldn't give up sancho or Mason for him if it was up to me. 

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https://www.espn.com/soccer/manchester-united/story/4011499/inside-man-uniteds-academy-the-lifeblood-for-the-clubs-future?src=com

United's academy will celebrate a significant milestone on Sunday. When Everton visit Old Trafford this weekend, United will mark their 4,000th consecutive game with a youth team graduate in the squad. It's a run that stretches back more 80 years to Oct. 30, 1937, when Tom Manley and Jackie Wassall played in a 1-0 defeat to Fulham. To put that into context, Everton have the next best record in the top flight with a run of more than 1000 games over 20 years which ended in August.

This unbroken run is something United are so proud of that it formed part of Ed Woodward's call with investors in November. His mission statement is "win trophies, play attacking football and give youth a chance." The last part is one of the reasons Ole Gunnar Solskjaer was chosen as manager when Jose Mourinho was sacked nearly a year ago, but from a broader point of view, players produced by the club form a key part of its history.

In 1968, United became the first English club to win the European Cup with a team that included eight youth players, just 10 years after the Munich Air Disaster killed eight members of Sir Matt Busby's "Busby Babes," seven of which had come through the youth system.

 

This is a must read for all football fans... it highlights what Makes Man Utd the greatest English football team of all time and why it's just a matter of time before the youngsters deliver constant Ws and a CL! I TRIED TELLING YOU ALL, TRUST THE MF PROCESS, BUT HARDHEADED AND STUPID GO RIGHT ALONG WITH EACH OTHER!

 

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Yesterday:

MATCH DETAILS

United: Kovar; Laird, Taylor (Fish 81), Bernard, Mengi; Galbraith, Helm (Mejbri 75), Puigmal; Chong, Ramazani (Hoogewerf 46), Traore.

Substitutes not used: Carney, McCann.



Goals: United - Puigmal 40, Traore 64, Chong 67, Hoogewerf 90 😱🤪🤩🤩🤩🤩 this next few transfer windows will be the last ones were man utd will be busy, after a year or two, the youngsters are taking over... lmao Mejbri and Hoogewerf came in as subs!!! The best academy and potential in all of football and only a jelly ass fool would say other wise. 

 

Friday 13 versus Lincoln (fa youth cup)

MATCH DETAILS

United: Mastny; Bejger, Fish, Mengi, Svidersky (Neville 89); McCann, Mejbri, Helm; Wellens (Shoretire 72), Hoogewerf, Sotona (Forson 79).

Substitutes not used: Mee, Hockenhull, Hughes, Iqbal .

Scorer: Hoogewerf 41,63

The Netherlands and man utd have a future world class player in Hoogewerf. The dude can't stop scoring but he is only following the footsteps of Rashford and Greenwood. Mengi and Mejbri also deserve some credit for their consistency at a high level but that nothing less is expected out of a man utd youngster!!!

Sky is the limit and the MF process is the only way up!!!

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44 minutes ago, Teso dos Bichos said:

Man Utd XI: Romero, Tuanzebe, Rojo, Jones, Williams, Matic, Garner, James, Mata, Rashford, Greenwood for the next match, both Dalot and Pogba are close to being fully recovered... boy this is about to get interesting,  buckle up. B|

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xD sancho, Mason Greenwood, and Martinelli are too busy putting up numbers (top three youngsters in all of Europe) while that overrated youngster at Barcelona only has a silly release clause to show for I wouldn't give up sancho or Mason for him if it was up to me. 

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https://www.espn.com/soccer/manchester-united/story/4011499/inside-man-uniteds-academy-the-lifeblood-for-the-clubs-future?src=com

United's academy will celebrate a significant milestone on Sunday. When Everton visit Old Trafford this weekend, United will mark their 4,000th consecutive game with a youth team graduate in the squad. It's a run that stretches back more 80 years to Oct. 30, 1937, when Tom Manley and Jackie Wassall played in a 1-0 defeat to Fulham. To put that into context, Everton have the next best record in the top flight with a run of more than 1000 games over 20 years which ended in August.

This unbroken run is something United are so proud of that it formed part of Ed Woodward's call with investors in November. His mission statement is "win trophies, play attacking football and give youth a chance." The last part is one of the reasons Ole Gunnar Solskjaer was chosen as manager when Jose Mourinho was sacked nearly a year ago, but from a broader point of view, players produced by the club form a key part of its history.

In 1968, United became the first English club to win the European Cup with a team that included eight youth players, just 10 years after the Munich Air Disaster killed eight members of Sir Matt Busby's "Busby Babes," seven of which had come through the youth system.

 

This is a must read for all football fans... it highlights what Makes Man Utd the greatest English football team of all time and why it's just a matter of time before the youngsters deliver constant Ws and a CL! I TRIED TELLING YOU ALL, TRUST THE MF PROCESS, BUT HARDHEADED AND STUPID GO RIGHT ALONG WITH EACH OTHER!

 

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Yesterday:

MATCH DETAILS

United: Kovar; Laird, Taylor (Fish 81), Bernard, Mengi; Galbraith, Helm (Mejbri 75), Puigmal; Chong, Ramazani (Hoogewerf 46), Traore.

Substitutes not used: Carney, McCann.



Goals: United - Puigmal 40, Traore 64, Chong 67, Hoogewerf 90 😱🤪🤩🤩🤩🤩 this next few transfer windows will be the last ones were man utd will be busy, after a year or two, the youngsters are taking over... lmao Mejbri and Hoogewerf came in as subs!!! The best academy and potential in all of football and only a jelly ass fool would say other wise. 

 

Friday 13 versus Lincoln (fa youth cup)

MATCH DETAILS

United: Mastny; Bejger, Fish, Mengi, Svidersky (Neville 89); McCann, Mejbri, Helm; Wellens (Shoretire 72), Hoogewerf, Sotona (Forson 79).

Substitutes not used: Mee, Hockenhull, Hughes, Iqbal .

Scorer: Hoogewerf 41,63

The Netherlands and man utd have a future world class player in Hoogewerf. The dude can't stop scoring but he is only following the footsteps of Rashford and Greenwood. Mengi and Mejbri also deserve some credit for their consistency at a high level but that nothing less is expected out of a man utd youngster!!!

Sky is the limit and the MF process is the only way up!!!

Manchester Utd are the biggest spending English club of all time, but yeah... give youth a chance. 

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3 hours ago, Teso dos Bichos said:

why it's just a matter of time before the youngsters deliver constant Ws and a CL

 

2 hours ago, LFCMadLad said:

Manchester Utd are the biggest spending English club of all time, but yeah... give youth a chance. 

xD It's this bit which is ultra-fanboyish as well. 

Barely anything in the current team which makes me think there's a CL-winning side there - even if there is a good selection of youth products.

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12 minutes ago, Stan said:

 

xD It's this bit which is ultra-fanboyish as well. 

Barely anything in the current team which makes me think there's a CL-winning side there - even if there is a good selection of youth products.

Hes a Spurs fan now anyway isnt he? xD

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Just now, LFCMadLad said:

Hes a Spurs fan now anyway isnt he? xD

Yeah which is why he probably doesn't realise Pogba's return has been delayed through illness, although it just seems like a really bad hangover...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/50816540

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Paul Pogba's Manchester United comeback is set to be delayed after he missed two days' training because of illness.

The France midfielder was expected to return to training this week after recovering from the ankle injury that has kept him out since September.

Pogba attended his brother's wedding in France on Friday, but needed a check-up with United's doctor on Saturday. His symptoms worsened on Sunday.

"He's been struck down ill," United boss Ole Gunnar Solskjaer said.

"He's been off two days, which is not beneficial. It's probably set him back quite a bit."

 

 

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