Azeem Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 Just now, Cicero said: So Salah to binge eat literally an hour before the final? Sounds healthy Yes You will be surprised to see that late night Cricket and Football leagues are big here after breaking the fast you will see people playing till 2-3 am. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azeem Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 @Cicero From my personal experience eating and drinking even if its some dates and a glass of water after fasting during daylight suddenly charges me up and i feel more energatic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cicero Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 1 minute ago, Devon Von Devon said: @Cicero From my personal experience eating and drinking even if its some dates and a glass of water after fasting during daylight suddenly charges me up and i feel more energatic Right. And that's all well and dandy. But you haven't played a professional football match or a champions league final by chance have you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azeem Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 5 minutes ago, Cicero said: Right. And that's all well and dandy. But you haven't played a professional football match or a champions league final by chance have you? I played football for my house in the house cup in school, we lost the final on penalties So in a way yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bozziovai Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 16 hours ago, Eco said: They aren't fasting. It's clear that they can do a few things to make up for it during Ramadan. They can either give away goods that would equate to their fast, or delay it 1 month. Ozil does this as well when he has matches during Ramadan. i'm sorry but this is not true. with the case of mohammad Salah who is an athlete and who is perfectly fit, he has no excuse to not fast during ramadan. the people who are allowed to break-fast are the elderly, the terminally ill, children, pregnant women ... but NEVER a person who is fit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azeem Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 6 minutes ago, bozziovai said: i'm sorry but this is not true. with the case of mohammad Salah who is an athlete and who is perfectly fit, he has no excuse to not fast during ramadan. the people who are allowed to break-fast are the elderly, the terminally ill, children, pregnant women ... but NEVER a person who is fit. In situation like war etc or in a situation where it is necessasry for your day to day job it is allowed to not fast. Although there are scholary dispute on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bozziovai Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 30 minutes ago, Cicero said: Could of sworn in ment you couldn't eat or drink until sunset? technically that's right. but to put it in detail, after the FAJR prayer, the first prayer in the morning, usually, well, right now it's around 04:15 , so, when the Athan ( call to prayer ) has been acted in FAJR, that's the start of your fasting. No eating, No drinking of Water, No facking of your wife and a cut back of your daily leisure routines ....... up to ............................. MAGRIB, that is the prayer during sunset, it coincides with the sunset, right now, it's around, 18:54, when Athan for Magrib commences, that's the time you are free from fasting. Eat as much as you want, drink as much as you want, fack as much as you want ...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eco Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 5 minutes ago, bozziovai said: i'm sorry but this is not true. with the case of mohammad Salah who is an athlete and who is perfectly fit, he has no excuse to not fast during ramadan. the people who are allowed to break-fast are the elderly, the terminally ill, children, pregnant women ... but NEVER a person who is fit. It's true that they are not fasting. Takes a few seconds of research to see it as much. As for the Quran - you are correct, but as Ozil has said NUMEROUS times, Allah knows this is my job, and this is how I make my livelihood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bozziovai Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 Just now, Devon Von Devon said: In situation like war etc or in a situation where it is necessasry for your day to day job it is allowed to not fast. Although there are scholary dispute on it. yes, that's also one of the exceptions .... but it still depends on what war you are waging, if it's a jihad or not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eco Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 1 minute ago, Devon Von Devon said: In situation like war etc or in a situation where it is necessasry for your day to day job it is allowed to not fast. Although there are scholary dispute on it. Yes - Believe it or not, I have spent a few years studying Islam in depth, and there are certain situations where it seems okay not to fast, although the best solution would be to delay it for the following month. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bozziovai Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 2 minutes ago, Eco said: It's true that they are not fasting. Takes a few seconds of research to see it as much. As for the Quran - you are correct, but as Ozil has said NUMEROUS times, Allah knows this is my job, and this is how I make my livelihood. like what you said above, many people have tried their own interpretation of their religion. but we're talking about islam here, a religion where rules are rules. oh yes my friend, i'm in god-smacked center of islam right now, just an hour's ride to maccah hehehe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eco Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 Just now, bozziovai said: like what you said above, many people have tried their own interpretation of their religion. but we're talking about islam here, a religion where rules are rules. oh yes my friend, i'm in god-smacked center of islam right now, must an hour's ride to maccah hehehe. Really? Man I have a few questions for you then! Yeah I am about to finish reading the Qu'ran (again), and read Muhammad by Lings, and have even studied a little bit of Arabic. Love parts of the religion, but there are some things that seems vastly outdated and are just a bad look for someone growing up in the West. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azeem Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 Thread going off topic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bozziovai Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 3 minutes ago, Eco said: Really? Man I have a few questions for you then! Yeah I am about to finish reading the Qu'ran (again), and read Muhammad by Lings, and have even studied a little bit of Arabic. Love parts of the religion, but there are some things that seems vastly outdated and are just a bad look for someone growing up in the West. exactly. and that's what the terrorist groups have used to exploit the ignorant people here ( a lot of ignorant people here haha ). it's a good book to read but like any other religious book, you need to turn off your logic to appreciate it. best if we make a new thread about it, not here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eco Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 2 minutes ago, Devon Von Devon said: Thread going off topic Just now, bozziovai said: exactly. and that's what the terrorist groups have used to exploit the ignorant people here ( a lot of ignorant people here haha ). it's a good book to read but like any other religious book, you need to turn off your logic to appreciate it. best if we make a new thread about it, not here Agreed. I'll have to miss this game (probably record and watch later), and it's mine and my wife's 4 year wedding Anniversary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bozziovai Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 5 minutes ago, Eco said: Agreed. I'll have to miss this game (probably record and watch later), and it's mine and my wife's 4 year wedding Anniversary. whoa !!! congrats !!! turn off all your notifications about the game in your fone, record it and watch it with innocence to keep the thrill hahaha back to the game, this Finals has a lot of implications, a 3rd straight for Madrid, a first for klopp, a must win for zidane to keep his job and a defining moment for Salah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eco Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 1 minute ago, bozziovai said: whoa !!! congrats !!! turn off all your notifications about the game in your fone, record it and watch it with innocence to keep the thrill hahaha back to the game, this Finals has a lot of implications, a 3rd straight for Madrid, a first for klopp, a must win for zidane to keep his job and a defining moment for Salah I never understood this. Why? The guy is a Real Legend, won La Liga and has already won the CL twice in just the span of 3 years.....If he's fired, I hope he comes to Inter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bozziovai Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 5 minutes ago, Eco said: I never understood this. Why? The guy is a Real Legend, won La Liga and has already won the CL twice in just the span of 3 years.....If he's fired, I hope he comes to Inter. they are million miles away in terms of points from Barca. 93 - 76 = 17 points. that's the biggest reason his job hangs in the balance ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eco Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 Just now, bozziovai said: they are million miles away in terms of points from Barca. 93 - 76 = 17 points. that's the biggest reason his job hangs in the balance ... I guess you have to determine which is more important, the league, or the CL? Honestly, I think the CL is a much bigger accomplishment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azeem Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 3 minutes ago, Eco said: I guess you have to determine which is more important, the league, or the CL? Honestly, I think the CL is a much bigger accomplishment. We have had this disscusion on the forum before. For clubs like Real,Barca who are sure to win the league every now and then the Champions league means more but for English clubs like Liverpool and Arsenal where they haven't won it in years the domestic league means more then CL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azeem Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 For me it doesn't make sense if aren't the best team in your country but claim to be the best in Europe. #OnlyLeagueWinnersInCL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bozziovai Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 13 minutes ago, Eco said: I guess you have to determine which is more important, the league, or the CL? Honestly, I think the CL is a much bigger accomplishment. this discussion is as large as the pacific ocean. some people say the league is much important bcoz it's proof of consistency while the others say that the UCL weighs much heavily due to it's prestige ..... for me, both are of the same magnitude but each has it's own unique "feel". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Stan Posted May 24, 2018 Author Administrator Share Posted May 24, 2018 apparently a few flights have been cancelled for Liverpool fans travelling to Kiev meaning fans can't now get to the final. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Blue Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 Liverpool should win this 4-1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFCMike Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 1 hour ago, Stan said: apparently a few flights have been cancelled for Liverpool fans travelling to Kiev meaning fans can't now get to the final. Disgusting that. Sounds like there might be hope for them yet Many people will have already started making alternative plans though so it may come too late for some Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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