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6 minutes ago, Cicero said:

His league record is appalling. 4 titles in 20 years. 

I fear he could be Rafa 2.0, however Roma showed in this UCL that anything is possible in a cup competition so the UCL can be won.

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Ancelotti faces a tough task keeping this team together. Sarri leaving may feel like the 'end of the cycle' to a few players and have shifted their attention to other moves that they could make. Reina is already away, Mertens has a (relatively) low release clause, Hamsik's father has said today that he may be looking to move on. Never mind the attention that Jorginho, Koulibaly, and Allan have gained in recent years from some of the biggest clubs in Europe.

Psychologically, it must have been heartbreaking for this team to do so well last season and win nothing. I can't blame them for thinking that they might never win anything at Napoli. They've seen their former talisman move on and winning trophy after trophy, and might think that could be them.

One thing is for certain, Ancelotti brings a big club mentality. You can be sure that they will not bow out of European competition with a whimper, and certainly will not just focus all of their energy on merely the league. 

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51 minutes ago, Cicero said:

His league record is appalling. 4 titles in 20 years. 

Winning 4 league titles is considered 'appalling' now. It's only a fairly new thing, with new money that not winning the league every season is seen as a failure. Many great managers have honours lists which would be considered 'appalling' by those standards. 

Hope he does well, genuinely amiable man who acts with a consistent dignity I've seen from no other manager at the highest level.

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14 minutes ago, The Artful Dodger said:

Winning 4 league titles is considered 'appalling' now. It's only a fairly new thing, with new money that not winning the league every season is seen as a failure. Many great managers have honours lists which would be considered 'appalling' by those standards. 

Hope he does well, genuinely amiable man who acts with a consistent dignity I've seen from no other manager at the highest level.

20 years of management and only 4 league titles is actually appalling. There really is no way around that. It's not like he's managed mid table sides. He's managed the best sides of every country he's been in. 

For how legendary that Milan side was, he's won only 1 league title with them. In 2010, we were fortunate to have peak players such as Lampard, Ballack, Deco, Joe Cole, Essien, Drogba, Anelka, Malouda, Terry, and Carvahlo take advantage of a transitioning United side. Flopped at PSG after Montpellier won the league. Flopped at Madrid. Got sacked from Bayern. 

 

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1 minute ago, Cicero said:

20 years of management and only 4 league titles is actually appalling. There really is no way around that. It's not like he's managed mid table sides. He's managed the best sides of every country he's been in. 

For how legendary that Milan side was, he's won only 1 league title with them. In 2010, we were fortunate to have peak players such as Lampard, Ballack, Deco, Joe Cole, Essien, Drogba, Anelka, Malouda, Terry, and Carvahlo take advantage of a transitioning United side. Flopped at PSG after Montpellier won the league. Flopped at Madrid. Got sacked from Bayern. 

 

What are you talking about. Shankly and Busby must be absymal then?

Serie A during the 2000s was an extremely competitive league, could he have done better, maybe but he's rightfully regarded with great respect at Milan. He won the league with far more style than Mourinho did and record goals, many other Chelsea managers have fared much worse when taking over this apparently such talented side. PSG he was appointed midseason, first full season and they won the league again. He flopped at Real Madrid by winning the Champions League, I'll take that flop. Bayern Munich are going through an identity crisis, unable to really accept a non-German manager/culture but he still won the league there, even if it doesn't take much doing.

This new culture of of win the league every season or you're shit is draining football dry. Ancelotti has a CV which stands up with many of the best. It's this kind of stupidity which will destroy this game and we will end up with a god awful super league.

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7 minutes ago, The Artful Dodger said:

What are you talking about. Shankly and Busby must be absymal then?

Serie A during the 2000s was an extremely competitive league, could he have done better, maybe but he's rightfully regarded with great respect at Milan. He won the league with far more style than Mourinho did and record goals, many other Chelsea managers have fared much worse when taking over this apparently such talented side. PSG he was appointed midseason, first full season and they won the league again. He flopped at Real Madrid by winning the Champions League, I'll take that flop. Bayern Munich are going through an identity crisis, unable to really accept a non-German manager/culture but he still won the league there, even if it doesn't take much doing.

This new culture of of win the league every season or you're shit is draining football dry. Ancelotti has a CV which stands up with many of the best. It's this kind of stupidity which will destroy this game and we will end up with a god awful super league.

For a man that's managed Milan, Chelsea, Real Madrid, PSG, and Bayern Munich and only deliver 4 league titles in 20 years of management, is appalling. This is the same man many rate alongside SAF, Mourinho, and Guardiola for christ sake. 1 league title with a Milan side that was far and away the best in the country. 

No idea why you brought up Shankly and Busby considering they didn't have the resources nor the opportunity to manage literally every top club in Europe the way Ancelotti has. 

No one is disputing his CV as a whole and it would be stupid to argue against it. HIs league record will always be his greatest let down. 

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He will win the league, and then get sacked the following season after the players run out of fuel, the opposing managers figure out his tactics, and getting knocked out of the CL in the group stages. 

He is a notorious over and underachiever. Did amazing with Milan in the CL but at the same time he had quite possibly one of the most stacked teams of all time.

1 hour ago, The Artful Dodger said:

Winning 4 league titles is considered 'appalling' now. It's only a fairly new thing, with new money that not winning the league every season is seen as a failure. Many great managers have honours lists which would be considered 'appalling' by those standards. 

Hope he does well, genuinely amiable man who acts with a consistent dignity I've seen from no other manager at the highest level.

Yeah, but Ancelotti is has played in an era when new money exists and he has managed loaded clubs, so you're statement 'It's only a fairly new thing, with new money that not winning the league every season is seen as a failure', 100% applies to Ancelotti, well except Madrid because they always expect to win the league. He lost the league to Montpellier FFS! He is a manager that will win everything if times are easy,  but when times get tough he isn't the best manager to steady a rocking ship. All of his league win bar the Chelsea win have been over 11 points ahead of second. 

Pre-Calciopoli his Milan team were by far second best to Juventus despite boasting players like Shevchenko, Nesta, Maldini, Gattuso, Pirlo, Seedorf, Kaka, Cafu, Kaladze, Costacurta, Rui Costa, Ambrosini, Serginho, Inzaghi, among others. Milan defeated Juventus a lot in this period, Milan was losing to teams like Bologna, Messina, Empoli, and Udinese. Milan's inconsistencies to close out games against weak teams was what lost them titles. 

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31 minutes ago, Viva la FCB said:

Ill be honest, his squad management and deployment was really hard to take for the season and change he was with us. 

Didn't he juat post a piece of paper on the wall with the starting XI in the club room on matchday?

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4 hours ago, Spike said:

Didn't he juat post a piece of paper on the wall with the starting XI in the club room on matchday?

That was one of the stories doing the rounds...I dont remember who but one of the players did say basically that.

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7 hours ago, Spike said:

Didn't he juat post a piece of paper on the wall with the starting XI in the club room on matchday?

He has said many times that he had never been at a club with so many snitches.  I mean, he was at Real Madrid which could be marketed as the greatest sieve money can buy (PSG are challenging that honour these days) seeing as the rate of info that filters from within that dressing room is even too much for intentionally malicious journalists to digest...  But even then he's never been so upset as when he was at Bayern in those regards.

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