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#FreeTommy spreading across Twitter at the moment after Tommy Robinson was arrested yesterday.

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Death of this country because some muppet breached his bail trying to get a few thousand livestream views? xD

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The whole point why he was at the court case as it was not reported about and hid like what happened in Rotherham.  I dont partically like Tommy Robinson but it seems very weak of Britain to always hid certain cases from certain cultures. 

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2 hours ago, Panna King said:

The whole point why he was at the court case as it was not reported about and hid like what happened in Rotherham.  I dont partically like Tommy Robinson but it seems very weak of Britain to always hid certain cases from certain cultures. 

there's reporting restrictions to protect the victims in the trial and to prevent a mistrial of the defendants. 

This cunt Robinson knew exactly what he was doing. He knew he was in breach of his bail conditions and in contempt of court from last year. The suspended sentence was from last year and the conditions were breached before his arrest yesterday.

This shite about him being some kind of journalist martyr because he reports on stuff the media can't. There's a fucking reason the media can't report on it - however they can when the trial is over and the defendants have all been tried and sentenced if so. 

It's not about certain cultures and cases. It's the fucking law here and Robinson knew he was breaking it as well as his own sentence.

 

 

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22 minutes ago, Stan said:

there's reporting restrictions to protect the victims in the trial and to prevent a mistrial of the defendants. 

This cunt Robinson knew exactly what he was doing. He knew he was in breach of his bail conditions and in contempt of court from last year. The suspended sentence was from last year and the conditions were breached before his arrest yesterday.

This shite about him being some kind of journalist martyr because he reports on stuff the media can't. There's a fucking reason the media can't report on it - however they can when the trial is over and the defendants have all been tried and sentenced if so. 

It's not about certain cultures and cases. It's the fucking law here and Robinson knew he was breaking it as well as his own sentence.

 

 

Yea i know all about it and he was walking in to his own trouble path for what he done. But he got done for disturbing the peace this time.   

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In all seriousness though the main reason there’s such a fear from his support is they know he will get killed inside if he’s not protected. The Muslim problem is unreal in prison. 

The problem is for the U.K. government is they can’t contain this now, they have a reporting ban because in breech of his conditions or not they know the British public are angry about these rape scandals and the PR of arresting a bloke live streaming for his job to highlight the case is horrific PR. 

Its already out of control, heading for 1/2 million signatures on a petition, questions in national parliaments, demonstrations outside British consulates, legal threats to the British Government from privalty funded supporters and Donald Trumps son tweeting about it. A PR disaster for May, which she deserves for constantly stripping away freedoms. 

It’s also the precedent of Free speech, which has really caused a stir. I’m frankly not comfortable with the government being able to enforce a reporting ban on any issue in principle, 

Also so worth noting the fuzz go in hard on Tommy, they have harassed his family for years because he makes them look bad. If he was a minority they would be bang to rites on discrimination against him. 

Anyway the main issue is the gangs, raping girls as young as 11, it’s everywhere and apparently the times are reporting today that actual councillors in Rotherham are being investigated for abusing the victims alongside the gangs. 

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12 minutes ago, Fairy In Boots said:

In all seriousness though the main reason there’s such a fear from his support is they know he will get killed inside if he’s not protected. The Muslim problem is unreal in prison. 

The problem is for the U.K. government is they can’t contain this now, they have a reporting ban because in breech of his conditions or not they know the British public are angry about these rape scandals and the PR of arresting a bloke live streaming for his job to highlight the case is horrific PR. 

Its already out of control, heading for 1/2 million signatures on a petition, questions in national parliaments, demonstrations outside British consulates, legal threats to the British Government from privalty funded supporters and Donald Trumps son tweeting about it. A PR disaster for May, which she deserves for constantly stripping away freedoms. 

It’s also the precedent of Free speech, which has really caused a stir. I’m frankly not comfortable with the government being able to enforce a reporting ban on any issue in principle, 

Also so worth noting the fuzz go in hard on Tommy, they have harassed his family for years because he makes them look bad. If he was a minority they would be bang to rites on discrimination against him. 

Anyway the main issue is the gangs, raping girls as young as 11, it’s everywhere and apparently the times are reporting today that actual councillors in Rotherham are being investigated for abusing the victims alongside the gangs. 

I dont get this reporting ban is for the victims at all, these grooming gangs are probably involved with people in goverments to cover their ass like with Rotherham.  There are loads of other cases reported on without naming victims.  The goverment are just shutting people down on things that are getting exposed, social media must be a nighymare for goverments as people can report the truth,  that is why twitter have been forced to block a number of people recently.  The goverment want people like Jayda and Tommy killed off.

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15 minutes ago, Panna King said:

Yea i know all about it and he was walking in to his own trouble path for what he done. But he got done for disturbing the peace this time.   

no. it isn't 'disturbing the peace'. The info in those tweets clearly mention his breach of sentence. Which is what he was arrested for. Contempt of Court. 

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Anyway the main issue is the gangs, raping girls as young as 11, it’s everywhere and apparently the times are reporting today that actual councillors in Rotherham are being investigated for abusing the victims alongside the gangs. 

of course. The issue is that. but then what good is it Robinson being there outside the court, probably knowing full well it could lead to a mistrial of the case and then the gangs not getting justice (which would be prison time). He's affecting their trial. Apparently the case could collapse because of his antics?

 

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13 minutes ago, Panna King said:

I dont get this reporting ban is for the victims at all, these grooming gangs are probably involved with people in goverments to cover their ass like with Rotherham.  There are loads of other cases reported on without naming victims.  The goverment are just shutting people down on things that are getting exposed, social media must be a nighymare for goverments as people can report the truth,  that is why twitter have been forced to block a number of people recently. 

Mate I’ve told 3-4 Asian lads aged 23-18 to fuck off and stop harassing white girls aged 11-13 in a McDonald’s a few weeks back. It was broad daylight they didn’t give a fuck and I’m 6ft 16st I box and I’m physically good shape and they stood and weighed up there chances for a minute or two. 

I’ve got family members who say Rotherham is the tip of the iceberg it’s thousands of cases in Birmingham. 

Ive got sisters, friends & neighbours who get harrasmemt when they go out drinking and encounter groups of these guys cruising around. 

Even my black mates who you would think are anti right wing are saying something needs to be done about these fuckers. It will come to a head, they will abuse the wrong girl and some bloke will get his pals and it will go nuclear. Full scale riots and sectarian violence I reckon. 

My daughter is 3 she’s in nursery and mixing with other kids and naturally they’re not all white. At the minute I’m letting her mix because they don’t see race or anything like that at present but as she gets to her teens I’ll be telling her to avoid Asian men because frankly although it’s not all of them I’d rather not take chances. 

Edit: I’m saying Asian, it’s Pakistanis mainly in Birmingham. There’s no Hindus or Sikhs doing this, in fact they’re victims themselves 

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1 minute ago, Stan said:

no. it isn't 'disturbing the peace'. The info in those tweets clearly mention his breach of sentence. Which is what he was arrested for. Contempt of Court. 

of course. The issue is that. but then what good is it Robinson being there outside the court, probably knowing full well it could lead to a mistrial of the case and then the gangs not getting justice (which would be prison time). He's affecting their trial. Apparently the case could collapse because of his antics?

 

Doubt it it was the day of the verdict, he’d gone to goad for his rebal media job. It’s why he’s asking them “got your prison bag?” (The irony) 

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27 minutes ago, Stan said:

no. it isn't 'disturbing the peace'. The info in those tweets clearly mention his breach of sentence. Which is what he was arrested for. Contempt of Court. 

of course. The issue is that. but then what good is it Robinson being there outside the court, probably knowing full well it could lead to a mistrial of the case and then the gangs not getting justice (which would be prison time). He's affecting their trial. Apparently the case could collapse because of his antics?

 

Arresting officers said he was arrested for disturbing the peace if you watch the video.   It was the verdict and alot of them already had their bags packed.  

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1 hour ago, Panna King said:

I dont get this reporting ban is for the victims at all, these grooming gangs are probably involved with people in goverments to cover their ass like with Rotherham.  There are loads of other cases reported on without naming victims.  The goverment are just shutting people down on things that are getting exposed, social media must be a nighymare for goverments as people can report the truth,  that is why twitter have been forced to block a number of people recently.  The goverment want people like Jayda and Tommy killed off.

A reporting ban is because in UK court a trial can be thrown out if it becomes a public witch hunt. It effects the right to a fair trial. The victims then don't get justice all because some tosser wants to some hits on his stream.

The far right whirlwind combine "free speech" with their paranoia to essentially eradicate procedure. A dangerous ignorance.

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It's not in Tommy's interests for ethnic minority rapists to be brought to justice. His personal interest is to stoke as many braindead cunts into as long and intense a frenzy of rage as possible.

If the trial were to collapse thanks to his stupidity it'd suit him perfectly; he'd be easily capable of convincing his fans that the loony PC justice system was to blame for letting them go free. 

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Yaxley-Lennon, lets give him his real name, not the pseudonym he likes to pose as, was guilty of contempt of court, something he admitted today, after being told not to turn up at a court and broadcast again. So, let's get it straight, Yaxley-Lennon demands Muslims abide by British Law whilst flouting it himself. He's a parody, I'm sure of it.

I've noticed it was all the thick kids from school who are devastated by this news, it must be a terrible day in Racist in Boots' house as well. 

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The worst thing is that going to jail is still going to be a career booster for him: the people he targets as his fan base are mentally incapable of being exposed to the complete fraudulence of his persona. They'll look at him as a martyr for free speech. 

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On 5/28/2018 at 21:28, Fairy In Boots said:

Mate I’ve told 3-4 Asian lads aged 23-18 to fuck off and stop harassing white girls aged 11-13 in a McDonald’s a few weeks back. It was broad daylight they didn’t give a fuck and I’m 6ft 16st I box and I’m physically good shape and they stood and weighed up there chances for a minute or two. 

I’ve got family members who say Rotherham is the tip of the iceberg it’s thousands of cases in Birmingham. 

Ive got sisters, friends & neighbours who get harrasmemt when they go out drinking and encounter groups of these guys cruising around. 

Even my black mates who you would think are anti right wing are saying something needs to be done about these fuckers. It will come to a head, they will abuse the wrong girl and some bloke will get his pals and it will go nuclear. Full scale riots and sectarian violence I reckon. 

My daughter is 3 she’s in nursery and mixing with other kids and naturally they’re not all white. At the minute I’m letting her mix because they don’t see race or anything like that at present but as she gets to her teens I’ll be telling her to avoid Asian men because frankly although it’s not all of them I’d rather not take chances. 

Edit: I’m saying Asian, it’s Pakistanis mainly in Birmingham. There’s no Hindus or Sikhs doing this, in fact they’re victims themselves 

You sound like a very racist person. 'i'm letting her mix' what the fuck! Such a loving parent, you're letting your child 'mix' with people of different skin colours. 

'Avoid asian men.' Fucking hell.

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1 hour ago, Marc said:

You sound like a very racist person. 'i'm letting her mix' what the fuck! Such a loving parent, you're letting your child 'mix' with people of different skin colours. 

'Avoid asian men.' Fucking hell.

My favourite bit was the “my black mates” bit because anyone who has black mates can’t be a right-wing, EDL worshipping racist. 

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I honestly don't think @Fairy In Boots is a hateful person at heart, nor do I think he is a sincere racist. I can't speak for him or how bad it actually is where he lives but if a person lived in an area with considerable racial tension, they would probably survive longer by making racial profiling choices. Yeah, it's not a nice thing to think about at all, but location and context makes a difference. Where I live I'm snug as a bug in a rug; but I'd be a lot more cautious living in a neighbourhood like Inglewood. But I digress, it's not just race that people make decisions on, it's also locale, appearance, the manner of speaking, and time of day (a black man in a suit at a business district at lunchtime vs. a chavy white lad in sportswear at pub in the bad part of town) . As Bill Burr said, everyone is racist at night. 

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4 hours ago, Spike said:

I honestly don't think @Fairy In Boots is a hateful person at heart, nor do I think he is a sincere racist. I can't speak for him or how bad it actually is where he lives but if a person lived in an area with considerable racial tension, they would probably survive longer by making racial profiling choices. Yeah, it's not a nice thing to think about at all, but location and context makes a difference. Where I live I'm snug as a bug in a rug; but I'd be a lot more cautious living in a neighbourhood like Inglewood. But I digress, it's not just race that people make decisions on, it's also locale, appearance, the manner of speaking, and time of day (a black man in a suit at a business district at lunchtime vs. a chavy white lad in sportswear at pub in the bad part of town) . As Bill Burr said, everyone is racist at night. 

How can he not be racist with views like that?!

im not sure you should find excuses on behalf of someone for being racist.

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21 hours ago, Marc said:

You sound like a very racist person. 'i'm letting her mix' what the fuck! Such a loving parent, you're letting your child 'mix' with people of different skin colours. 

'Avoid asian men.' Fucking hell.

Wow you must be new here, welcome to the forum. This place is very much divided on me, I happen to talk quite openly about minority’s based upon my daily experiences with them and it’s not always favourable. Therefore I’m often labelled “racist”. 

To answer your point, I noticed you didn’t acknowledge the problem of grooming just labelled me as racist for considering action to negate it and protect my children.  

If you have kids or one day plan to have kids, then I hope they grow up in a city that hasn’t got very real grooming rape problem with young predominantly Pakistani men. One at which the state seem hugely reluctant to deal with for fear of being labelled “racist”( presumably by folks like yourself).

What I meant by my statement was that for now I’m happy to let my kids interact with various kids of various ethnicities as they don’t see racial divides the way we do and that will come as they grow, it’s instinctive tribalism. At some point though probably when she’s around 12-13 I’ll have to talk to her about the birds & the bees, be wary of strange men, the danger of drugs & Pakistani grooming gangs. That’s not me being a racist that’s me being a parent and my duty is to protect and raise my offspring and arm them with all the tools they need to be successful in life. If that means I’ve gotta say be careful of this person or than person and I’m making judgements based on ethnicity which granted may well be unfair so what? I’d rather air on the side of caution when it comes to probability of my daughter getting gang raped. 

I also like how you glossed over the experiences I shared from family & friends about the problem. I agree the real problem here is some cunt on a random football forum (me) not taking the time to walk a fine line and speak as if he’s a politician when discussing an industrial scale rape epidemic for want of upsetting some virtue signalling bloke from Norwich eager to peacock his virtue and endear himself to his new social circle. 

11 hours ago, Marc said:

How can he not be racist with views like that?!

im not sure you should find excuses on behalf of someone for being racist.

He don’t need to but thanks anyway @Spike there’s many here that know I’m not some horrible racist, but I’m very honest about the multitude of ethnicities I encounter and I don’t censor my experiences. Most are able to look at the argument I’m making and stop getting hung up on the fact “it’s a white guy talking bad about a person of colour, must be a Nazi” shite. 

20 hours ago, Smiley Culture said:

My favourite bit was the “my black mates” bit because anyone who has black mates can’t be a right-wing, EDL worshipping racist. 

You piping up BDTC after someone else has a go is always a classic example of what a snivelling little cunt you are. The fact you labelled me EDL worshipping when I’ve said multiple times to yourself they’re moronic idiots only goes to show who’s the moron in this convo. In fact the last time we spoke was me calling you a cunt for labelling me as such and me correcting you, I see you’ve not learned. 

I forget my experience with people count for naught because smileys opinion is omnipotent when it comes to my views or beliefs 😂. 

I’ll indulge though I’m on a roll and having to type a long post so fuck ot. To clarify yes I have two black mate who have recently told me they agree with Tommy Robinson on the grooming issue, one has two daughters with his Mrs who is of Moroccan  Muslim descent and he said her father (a practicing Morocan Muslim) had warned him to keep them away from Young Muslim men because “there’s a problem within the community”. 

I know it all falls on deaf ears for the most part here, but I’d love to take you lot into these areas at night to see it, I bet you wouldn’t be such smarmy smug cunts eager to label people highlighting the problem as “racists” then. 

For what it’s worth although highlighting it is good because awareness is a good thing, I’m actually in favour of the community sorting it out, not because I trust them massively because I don’t really my experience is poor with Muslims generally, but because there’s a great chance of it all getting sorted out peacefully and more quickly. There’s many Muslims dismayed at it, many Muslim social workers chipping away at the iceberg and I wish them all the success in the world. I just won’t be risking my children’s well-being on their success rates just yet regardless of how that makes me appear on this forum. 

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The daft cunt broke the law, when you break the law you get arrested simple as that. There's nothing his supporters can do about it which makes this even better.

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I haven't been to Birmingham in over 10 years, and I'm sure a lot has changed since the last time I was there.

But forgive me for just having a very hard time believing what you're saying - because a lot of what you've said is mirrored exactly by what some people said about certain areas in San Diego when I first moved here. And quite frankly, almost everything of what I'd heard about these shit neighborhoods supposedly filled with Mexican gangs was almost complete bollocks.

In the UK, Islam and Muslims make for an easy boogieman. In the US, there's plenty of different boogiemen that take the blame - but right now the US far right has taken aim at Mexicans (not that they think highly of Muslims either though lol). But at the end of the day, it's lower socioeconomic neighborhoods that are rougher being more dangerous at times where rougher neighborhoods get rougher. That's a tale as old as time, it's nobody's race or ethnicity that's making people this way. Just as @StefBWFC's said elsewhere in the politics forums.

But I don't think you mean to be racist when you say things, I believe you genuinely feel that the things you are saying are not racist and based in fact - even if they are racist statements. I don't see racial/ethnic divides, or that "instinctive tribalism" as something that's really inherent; that's something that human society has developed over time. Because "us v. them" mindsets can drive people, make people have a better sense of community/self, fears can be projected onto different groups, shite like that. I think those are things we cling to easily because it makes difficult and complex problems much more easy to understand and resolve in our heads.

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It's not racist to warn on grooming gangs from certain cultures, but it absolutely is racist to indiscriminately exclude people because of their race as a so called act of self defence. That is exactly the kind of wall ethnic minorities have had to break down for decades, exclusion from participating in the host society on the basis of a fear of them.

Teenage girls tend to do the opposite of what daddy tells them so we are in for a real Small Heath Romeo & Juliet love story :ph34r:

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On 30/05/2018 at 22:31, Kitchen Sales said:

It's not racist to warn on grooming gangs from certain cultures, but it absolutely is racist to indiscriminately exclude people because of their race as a so called act of self defence. That is exactly the kind of wall ethnic minorities have had to break down for decades, exclusion from participating in the host society on the basis of a fear of them.

Teenage girls tend to do the opposite of what daddy tells them so we are in for a real Small Heath Romeo & Juliet love story :ph34r:

Lol good one. It won’t be put to her like that, I plan to be very honest with them and recount my experiences with drugs etc in what is a confusing time for us all. I know I’d have benefited from a parent who could impart advice in my teens. I won’t forbid interaction because that’s impractical but I will sit them down & educate about what & how it happens and how to avoid. 

@Dr. Gonzo I’ll answer you in a day or two mate. Too little time at present and Villa imploding has got my attention 

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Where's Tommy Robinson when you need him.

 

Sheffield child sex grooming gang brothers jailed

 
The Whiteley brothers, top, along with Taleb Bapir and Amanda Spencer
Credit: South Yorkshire Police

Three brothers from Sheffield have been jailed for a total of 30 years for their part in a child sex grooming ring.

Christopher Whiteley, 23, his brother, 25-year-old Matthew Whiteley and Shane Whiteley, who is 30, were convicted of a series of child sexual offences including conspiracy to cause child prostitution, arranging child prostitution and rape. 

They plied a 15-year-old girl with drink and drugs and then forced her to have sex with up to 40 men for money.

The brothers were convicted following a seven-week trial. Christopher Whiteley was jailed for 15 years, Matthew Whiteley received seven years and Shane Whiteley got eight years in prison.

Amanda Spencer, 26, from Rotherham, was jailed for three years to run consecutively to a 12-year prison term she was already serving for similar offences.

Taleb Bapir, 39, of Verdon Street, Burngreave was jailed for ten years for his part in the crimes.

Detective Chief Inspector Martin Tate, of South Yorkshire Police, said: “Five very dangerous sexual offenders are now behind bars for their horrendous crimes, thanks in large part to the courage of nine incredibly brave women who put their faith in South Yorkshire Police.

“I am grateful to those victims for coming forward and having confidence in our officers to investigate these crimes thoroughly and bring those responsible before the courts."

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