Administrator Stan 18,379 Posted July 1, 2018 Author Administrator Share Posted July 1, 2018 i think we've all been here, right lads? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirBalon 2,692 Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 Spain have regressed 10 years with these performances during this World Cup. It’s not easy to criticise Spain apart from being toothless in front of goal... The thing is that there are other issues that seem to be there and again it’s difficult to pinpoint them and really put them out for debate because pre the sacking of Julen Lopetegui they weren’t there. We’ll never know what may or may not have been had Lopetegui not been fired and that’s his fault and of course Real Madrid’s in that particular case because his position was unattainable due to the manner in which things were done. What’s for sure is that due to all the trumoil the RFEF (Spanish football federation) have been in before this present President took over, I don’t think that even they are in a position to restructure the project. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fairy In Boots 607 Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny 2,204 Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 Fucking hell this tournament is full of surprises Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Artful Dodger 1,831 Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 1 hour ago, Cicero said: Knew Spain should of stuck with Costa. Dramatically improves their game. Thought they actually looked slightly better with Aspas on the pitch, though not by much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kowabunga 313 Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 Godspeed, Don Andrés. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Artful Dodger 1,831 Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 Expected, a glittering international career, up there with Pele in terms of the international game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Stan 18,379 Posted July 1, 2018 Author Administrator Share Posted July 1, 2018 Shame he couldn't bow out with more success but what a career he's had at international level for sure. Pivotal to the success from 2008 to 2012. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cicero 5,267 Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 4 minutes ago, Stan said: Shame he couldn't bow out with more success but what a career he's had at international level for sure. Pivotal to the success from 2008 to 2012. Think that just leaves Ramos and Silva. The last of the golden generation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Stan 18,379 Posted July 1, 2018 Author Administrator Share Posted July 1, 2018 5 minutes ago, Cicero said: Think that just leaves Ramos and Silva. The last of the golden generation. Pepe Reina Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber Dan+ 1,918 Posted July 1, 2018 Subscriber Share Posted July 1, 2018 2 hours ago, Marc said: If you're an England fan and you aren't excited by our prospects then Football isn't the sport for you. Every fucking country in the world is plotting out their potential opponents, i'm sure as hell Colombia fans are doing the same and Denmark, Croatia etc. Sssssh you're English. You're not allowed to say that!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honey Honey 3,767 Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 Russia are going to win the world cup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Palace Fan 3,402 Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 That terrible VAR decision, Spain's reluctance to press the Russian defence, David De Gea's randomly turned terrible at saving penalties. All seems a bit iffy to me. It's been listed before but to think one side that I wouldn't have considered a top eight team going in to this tournament is guaranteed a place in the final is quote frankly fantastic. I'd like to see the winner of England and Colombia meet Croatia in the semis. I really hope it's us. In not getting carried away but I've book holiday from work for the semi final and the day after the final. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
...Dan 758 Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 17 minutes ago, The Palace Fan said: That terrible VAR decision, Spain's reluctance to press the Russian defence, David De Gea's randomly turned terrible at saving penalties. All seems a bit iffy to me. It's been listed before but to think one side that I wouldn't have considered a top eight team going in to this tournament is guaranteed a place in the final is quote frankly fantastic. I'd like to see the winner of England and Colombia meet Croatia in the semis. I really hope it's us. In not getting carried away but I've book holiday from work for the semi final and the day after the final. The Spain penalty appeal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Palace Fan 3,402 Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 12 minutes ago, ...Dan said: The Spain penalty appeal? Terrible was way OTT on my part. I did that for dramatic effect, but Pique was definitely bought down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machado 1,710 Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 Spain in the last there tournaments: 2014 - Group Stage 2016 - Last 16 2018 - Last 16 They are back to Spain pre 2008. Why this is the case I don't know. There is as much talent if not more. Maybe they're not as influenced by Barcelona's type of football as before? Possession doesn't equal total football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devil-Dick Willie 3,253 Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 Fuck me Spain were wank. Absolute wank. Fucking horrendous. Pass it FORWARD!!! Fuck how hard is it. They learned nothing from Germanys exit clearly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cicero 5,267 Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 No Xavi. No Party. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirBalon 2,692 Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 7 hours ago, Machado said: Spain in the last there tournaments: 2014 - Group Stage 2016 - Last 16 2018 - Last 16 They are back to Spain pre 2008. Why this is the case I don't know. There is as much talent if not more. Maybe they're not as influenced by Barcelona's type of football as before? Possession doesn't equal total football. No focal point up front that understands the game being played. When David Villa decided it was time to call it a day on international football, from that day scoring goals became difficult. There aren't too many issues though... Spain produce elite talent and now it's the search for something that doesn't seem to be coming through the ranks, a goal scorer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panna King 1,012 Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 25 minutes ago, SirBalon said: No focal point up front that understands the game being played. When David Villa decided it was time to call it a day on international football, from that day scoring goals became difficult. There aren't too many issues though... Spain produce elite talent and now it's the search for something that doesn't seem to be coming through the ranks, a goal scorer. Spain won Euro 08 without a Striker, they just need to get rid of Costa. He was shocking in the last World, apart from the Portugal game he didnt do much at all in this one. Who is coming through in defence that can take the places of Ramos and Pique? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirBalon 2,692 Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 2 minutes ago, Panna King said: Spain won Euro 08 without a Striker, they just need to get rid of Costa. He was shocking in the last World, apart from the Portugal game he didnt do much at all in this one. Who is coming through in defence that can take the places of Ramos and Pique? Well Piqué said this was his last tournament. Ramos' ego will keep him going until bits of his body start dropping off. I can't think who's coming through right now but Iñigo Martínez should be in there but his stupidity has probably deleted him off future lists. For me he is a tremendous defender. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panflute 670 Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 What a lack of creativity and courage. It's already been said before that Spain plays like Barcelona without Messi, and last night it looked like a combination of that and an attempt at Real Madrid's habit of forcing a way through over the flanks, but without Marcelo and Ronaldo. Jordi Alba in particular looked very weak. Shocking performance and it confirms that Spain is finally back to its old, underperforming self. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirBalon 2,692 Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 1 hour ago, Panna King said: Spain won Euro 08 without a Striker That was 2012 mate. In 2008 there were goals galore with Luis Aragonés as coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirBalon 2,692 Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 20 minutes ago, Panflute said: What a lack of creativity and courage. It's already been said before that Spain plays like Barcelona without Messi, and last night it looked like a combination of that and an attempt at Real Madrid's habit of forcing a way through over the flanks, but without Marcelo and Ronaldo. Jordi Alba in particular looked very weak. Shocking performance and it confirms that Spain is finally back to its old, underperforming self. The lack of courage came from the unwillingness to dribble and go for the one-on-one. Carvajal wasn't ready from injury, David Silva was nothing like he was mid-season, De Gea from the first game had the defence lose confidence in him, Lopetegui was the leader of that team (Koke's words after the elimination yesterday), Iniesta suffered from partners in crime and the non-use of Thiago Alcántara who was a main feature for Lopetegui... This without going in deeper with others not used like Saúl for example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panflute 670 Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 Just now, SirBalon said: The lack of courage came from the unwillingness to dribble and go for the one-on-one. Carvajal wasn't ready from injury, David Silva was nothing like he was mid-season, De Gea from the first game had the defence lose confidence in him, Lopetegui was the leader of that team (Koke's words after the elimination yesterday), Iniesta suffered from partners in crime and the non-use of Thiago Alcántara who was a main feature for Lopetegui... This without going in deeper with others not used like Saúl for example. On a simpler level it was also a case of the midfielders opting for a lateral or back ball even when there was a low-risk chance of getting it forward. Had they played against a side like France, this approach would've been understandable, but seeing as they were facing an opponent that did not know how to counter nor possessed much in the way of individual quality, it's unacceptable. Even with all of Spain's problems, they still have more than enough quality to brush a team like Russia aside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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