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UEFA to introduce new 32-team competition from 2021

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Uefa is set to create a third-tier club competition behind the Champions League and Europa League from 2021, according to German magazine Sport Bild.

The creation of the as-yet unnamed third-tier competition will see a restructuring of the second-tier Europa League, which will be reduced from 48 to 32 clubs. The new third-tier competition will consist of 32 clubs. The Champions League will continue to be contested by 32 clubs.

Uefa, football’s European governing body, hopes that reducing the number of teams in the Europa League will increase the quality of the competition, leading to greater revenue from media and marketing rights. The creation of a new competition, with clubs from new albeit smaller countries, will also increase the value of media rights in these markets.

The third tier is expected to be in operation for the next three-season cycle, from 2021-22 to 2023-24.

https://www.sportbusiness.com/sport-news/uefa-introduce-third-tier-club-competition-2021

 

 

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This actually seems like a good idea to reduce the farcical amount of qualifying rounds and extra fixtures for the two existing competitions.

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It just seems like an idea to keep the next best thirty-two sides that can’t quite make the Champions League together and in the money and to keep some of the smaller sides out. 

I’d like to see if there’s any correlation between competing in the Europa League and doing well in domestic football. I know a lot of English managers moan about it but I don’t think it has such an effect on the continent. 

Qualifiers, or namely the early rounds of the qualifiers, are largely pointless. How many teams progress from the first round of the qualifiers in either competition to make it to actual group stages? I can’t imagine we ever get many, if any.

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So they're keeping the Europa League as the Carling Cup of Europe and now creating the JPT of Europe as well?

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Considering the amount of European places available already in England it'll only be a few years until escaping relegation gets you into a European competition. 

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On 30/08/2018 at 21:22, Danny said:

So they're keeping the Europa League as the Carling Cup of Europe and now creating the JPT of Europe as well?

Pretty much but it's all about the money... 

 

On 30/08/2018 at 17:49, nudge said:

will increase the quality of the competition, leading to greater revenue from media and marketing rights

 

On 30/08/2018 at 17:49, nudge said:

The creation of a new competition, with clubs from new albeit smaller countries, will also increase the value of media rights in these markets.

Who gives a toss if it's good football or not as long as peoples pockets are getting crammed with money that's all that really matters.. 

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Hopefully this is a European tournament for the domestic sides from places like Luxembourg, San Marino, Wales and the like and not a tournament for the “third tier” elite level sides from major European leagues that aren’t good enough to finish in the Europa League places and are then rewarded for mediocrity by finishing 11th. 

The current qualification processes for both the Champions League and the Europa League are long and quite often, pointless in some respects. I notice every year that the qualifiers for both tournaments begins in June. How many teams that start in the opening round of qualification actually get to the group stages? It can’t be many, so maybe it’s better that they have their own tournament in which they can compete for a trophy and a financial boost. 

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Bring back the European Cup Winners' Cup... I loved that competition and it was genuine!

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12 minutes ago, SirBalon said:

Bring back the European Cup Winners' Cup... I loved that competition and it was genuine!

And it was a European competition Arsenal could actually win :ph34r:

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4 hours ago, Smiley Culture said:

Hopefully this is a European tournament for the domestic sides from places like Luxembourg, San Marino, Wales and the like and not a tournament for the “third tier” elite level sides from major European leagues that aren’t good enough to finish in the Europa League places and are then rewarded for mediocrity by finishing 11th. 

The current qualification processes for both the Champions League and the Europa League are long and quite often, pointless in some respects. I notice every year that the qualifiers for both tournaments begins in June. How many teams that start in the opening round of qualification actually get to the group stages? It can’t be many, so maybe it’s better that they have their own tournament in which they can compete for a trophy and a financial boost. 

I have to agree with this. Unfortunately I don't think it will be as Premier League, La Liga, Serie A etc teams mean on the whole more revenue.

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I'd take anything that got rid of the football season beginning in July with the endless qualifying rounds.

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I like the idea of them reducing the size of the Europa League. Stopping Champions League sides from dropping down into the Europa League half way through would be another good idea which they should consider. Starting a whole new competition though...? Unnecessary.

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It should help clean up Europa League. But we can say more when they announce how it's going to work. Basically, I like the idea very much.

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Hopefully with the Europa League restructure they'll prevent Champions League dropouts entering the competition, completely devalues winning it.

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On 11/09/2018 at 17:46, SirBalon said:

Bring back the European Cup Winners' Cup... I loved that competition and it was genuine!

I like the idea of Champions league being contested by league winners only and Europa league by cup winners.

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I don't mind teams who lose the CL qualifiers going into the Europa League, but it's a con letting third place group sides drop into the Europa league too. As far as I'm concerned, once you qualify that should be your competition.

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I agree. Being rewarded for finishing 3rd in your group is pitiful. Especially when that team goes on and wins the Europa whereas those who finished 1st/2nd in the CL group stage go on and get knocked out in the quarters or semi final. 

 

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On 14/09/2018 at 10:14, Devon Von Devon said:

I like the idea of Champions league being contested by league winners only and Europa league by cup winners.

It would be shit in my opinion. Having some team that finished top of scotland ahead of real Madrid etc 

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On ‎14‎/‎09‎/‎2018 at 08:07, Cicero said:

I agree. Being rewarded for finishing 3rd in your group is pitiful. Especially when that team goes on and wins the Europa whereas those who finished 1st/2nd in the CL group stage go on and get knocked out in the quarters or semi final. 

 

Maybe it's a punishment for coming in 3rd. I feel like Thursday night matches always lead to fixture congestion somehow. Then your side ends up gassed half the time in the league routinely if you're like us. I've never understood why they let bad group teams keep playing in Europe though - it does devalue the tournament.

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I know a lot is said about the Champions League and it not being like the European Cup anymore but I think reverting to that competition style wouldn't make sense. If we did the UEFA Cup/Europa League would hold more prestige as that would have more top quality sides in it.

For me what the Champions League needs are A. more teams like your Celtic's, PSV's, Ajax's etc but B. more groups like this season, Spurs, Inter and Barce drawn into one. Liverpool, Napoli and PSG into another. Make the group stages exciting rather than a formality for the big sides.

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We’ll never see the Champions League go to just Champions of respective country’s. There’s not enough quality there and not enough teams to make it worthwhile. This year we’d lose the likes of Napoli, Atletico Madrid, Liverpool, Monaco etc and have games like Barcelona v The New Saints. There’s no appetite for that whatsoever.

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Here's an idea, make a competition just for the Champions of each league and call it Champions League :coffee:

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12 minutes ago, Happy Blue said:

Here's an idea, make a competition just for the Champions of each league and call it Champions League :coffee:

see @Smiley Culture's post...

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1 hour ago, Smiley Culture said:

We’ll never see the Champions League go to just Champions of respective country’s. There’s not enough quality there and not enough teams to make it worthwhile. This year we’d lose the likes of Napoli, Atletico Madrid, Liverpool, Monaco etc and have games like Barcelona v The New Saints. There’s no appetite for that whatsoever.

I afree 100%. If they took the first place teams of the top 32 leagues the competition wouldn't be as good imo. I think it has to far the other way in that 4 leagues get 4 teams but I  don't think it should go back to only league winners 

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1 hour ago, Happy Blue said:

They should rename it then, Champions and losers league

They probably shouldn't call the it the champions league to be fair.  Maybe call the champions league the European cup, the Europa league the European shield and then this new competition the European plate something like that 

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9 minutes ago, Gunnersauraus said:

They probably shouldn't call the it the champions league to be fair.  Maybe call the champions league the European cup, the Europa league the European shield and then this new competition the European plate something like that 

This would be better

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It’s happening then. 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/46421656

Not a fan of this at all. Just rewarding mediocrity by the sounds of it, which isn’t for me. 

I said it above but I’d have restructured the Champions League and Europa League, because the qualifying stages are quite pointless. We start qualifiers for both competitions in June and teams from Andorra, Liechtenstein and the like and without being disrespectful, they have no chance of getting to the group stages and I’d restructure it so there are less qualifiers and the qualifiers we do have are of a higher quality because the sides in it are of a higher quality. I’d give teams from the lesser nations their own competition against teams of a similar ranking. 

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