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Copa Libertadores Final 2018: RIVER PLATE (5) aet3-1 (3) BOCA JUNIORS


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1 hour ago, Cicero said:

Fouled? Keeper clearly won the ball? 

Just watched it again. Are we on about the same incident here the one on Pratto? Pratto gets his foot to the ball and the keeper cleans him out?

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1 minute ago, Dan said:

Just watched it again. Are we on about the same incident here the one on Pratto? Pratto gets his foot to the ball and the keeper cleans him out?

The one where the Boca keeper got kneed in the face. 

 

Fitness aside, Bennedeto was causing River so many problems. His influence was massive and to take a player like that out, in a fucking final, is just strange. 

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Just now, Cannabis said:

The disgraceful scenes from the River fans should have punished more severely. There's simply no place for what they did back in Argentina.

It was punished. They were forced to play in Madrid.

People like to complain about that but CONMEBOL made the right decision taking the game to a different continent.

River were winning that final regardless of where it was played. Barros Schelotto's kryptonite is Marcelo Gallardo, a proper manager.

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2 minutes ago, José said:

My :ay:to the Boca team and the class they showed. Today was a great match but only a fool would believe it was an even match.. the conmebol should of gave Boca Juniors the trophy.. instead the malparidos get away with purposely putting the life in danger of Boca Juniors playerd, messed them up mentality, ALMOST forced to play that game by the fifa president and conmebol... 

River were going to win it regardless of where it would be played. Boca are managed poorly 

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The whole River v Boca novela has been one long ride. Excepting the ridiculous and terrible scenes that cancelled the original second leg at El Monumental, this has been brilliant. It’s unprecedented that the Superclasico could ever be a Copa Libertadores Final and we’ve all witnessed history with plenty of drama.

So much drama that it ended in Madrid in the Santiago Bernabéu. 

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23 minutes ago, Smiley Culture said:

Great scenes there. Boca going for it and have nearly everyone in the box and River go up the other end and tap into an empty net. 

Sublime entertainment this extra time. It’s a shame that we don’t get more Libertadores games shown live here in the UK. If they have half even 10% of the drama of this two-legged Final, it would make for a welcome addition on UK tv instead of the menial rigmarole of watching the Champions League group stages.  

I really hope BT look into getting the rights for it, especially with the fact they've lost some of their other football. I think after this there may be a genuine appetite for it.

South American football is the purest going.

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1 hour ago, José said:

The only ones punished here was Boca Juniors who had zero problems hosting the first leg and could not get the same treatment in return. The game being played in Madrid doesn't take away the physical and mentally damage inflected to boca Juniors . Football Lost today

I don't get it when it's taken to these extremes.

What occurred is terrible and those that did it should have the book thrown at them to the maximum...

But what's all this about?

So Boca were never going to play another game ever against River?

This was so traumatic that never again would we see another Superclásico at El Monumental?

The game was played at a neutral venue and to make it as neutral as possible, it was taken to a whole different continent but in doing so, managed to maintain as much as can be maintained, the culture similitudes between Latin Americans and Spaniards, especially where Argentinians are concerned.

The game had to have a winner, a winner that won it on the field of play under the stipulated rules.  That's the only way to make it fair and on top of that there was a decent gap between the first leg and the second leg to let steam off. 

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Will be interesting to see how they build on the interest that has been raised in the competition throughout the world next year. Whether this was a one-off or perhaps a start to showing the Copa Libertadores as a competition with a global interest in it.

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14 minutes ago, ScoRoss said:

Will be interesting to see how they build on the interest that has been raised in the competition throughout the world next year. Whether this was a one-off or perhaps a start to showing the Copa Libertadores as a competition with a global interest in it.

Now is definitely the moment for the CONMEBOL to work hard off the back of this to sell the Copa Libertadores...  From there the real interest in other South American leagues in a proper way for the future.

But something tells me this was a one off because of who the two clubs that had an appointment at the final were. The Superclásico has always been one of the biggest games on earth and to many Europeans it's like it was a myth and didn't exist until now.

It all depends who the Conmebol now employ to really try and sell this trophy to an already very saturated football market.

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Copa Libertadores final: Did staging River Plate v Boca Juniors in Madrid work?

By Mani Djazmi

BBC Sport in Madrid

3 minutes ago | Football

Almost immediately after the decision to play the Copa Libertadores final second leg in Madrid was confirmed, the ironic jokes flew around social media.

The biggest match in the history of the tournament that was named in honor of those who liberated South America from Spanish colonial rule was to be played in the Spanish capital.

Originally scheduled for 24 November in Buenos Aires, the second leg of this meeting between city rivals Boca Juniors and River Plate was postponed when Boca's bus was attacked by River fans on its way to the stadium. Boca players suffered cuts from broken windows and were also affected by the tear gas used by police to disperse the crowds.

After a second attempt to play the game was also aborted a day later, Conmebol, which runs South American football, felt security was more reliable in Madrid than any of its other nine non-Argentine member countries.

Alejandro Dominguez, the Paraguayan head of Conmebol, said it was "an exceptional decision in exceptional circumstances".

He felt that a large number of Argentine expats in Spain would maintain the unique atmosphere of the Superclasico, albeit thousands of miles away from Buenos Aires.

Only 4,000 fans from each club traveled from Argentina because of the prohibitive cost of flights and match tickets, which were much more expensive here than they were for the postponed fixture.

This was the Superclasico, a derby whose romanticized fierce and - as was proven in Buenos Aires - violent nature is legendary around the world.

Yet, despite their best and loudest efforts, the voices of Boca and River fans were at times muffled by the murmur of casual observers inside the Bernabeu.

It felt like a fudged final. The unfettered raw emotion of South American football was swaddled in European practice and procedure.

Fans of River Plate felt aggrieved because they had lost a home advantage, and football supporters throughout South America felt betrayed.

Mauro, a 39-year-old River supporter who lives in Barcelona, spent the relatively small amount of £180 to go to Madrid.

But this was after he had spent £1,500 on a two-day trip to Buenos Aires to see the match that never was.

"I'm really annoyed because it's a game that we're supposed to play in South America. Boca played in front of their fans but we can't," he said.

Nico, a fellow River Plate supporter, also felt cheated out of watching an authentic match.

"For me it's embarrassing," he said. "I wanted to watch the match with my parents and my brother in River's stadium, but we couldn't. Sharing this with them was the biggest dream of my football fan life."

Hernan, a 44-year-old Boca Juniors fan from Buenos Aires, saw the move to Madrid as a betrayal of the history of the competition but not one that diminished his anticipation.

"It's very bad that it's here," he said. "It should be in River's stadium. This Copa Libertadores final needs to be played in Boca or River. To play here is crazy."

But for Lucas, an Argentine living in Alicante and bizarrely wearing a half-and-half scarf, showing the colors of both the bitter rivals, this was a chance not to be missed.

"Thanks to the bad decisions made in South America, Argentines living here are very lucky," he said.

"I went to see Boca play a friendly in Barcelona in August but an official match? The last time I was in the stadium was for the 2000 Libertadores final."

South America is hoping to host the 2030 World Cup and South American football chief Dominguez thinks that bid is still realistic despite the attack on the Boca Juniors bus.

But as he looks at how to avoid a repetition of such a shameful incident, other administrators may see the staging of the match in Madrid as an interesting precedent.

Next week, a Spanish court will rule on La Liga's appeal to hold a match between Girona and Barcelona in Miami, Florida in January.

Luis Rubiales, the president of the Spanish FA, is against it and Fifa president Gianni Infantino said he was "frontally opposed and I deny permission".

But, along with Real Madrid president Florentino Perez, Rubiales played a crucial role in moving the Superclasico to the Bernabeu.

And Sunday's match is the latest in a developing string of seemingly unconnected events since the World Cup which are all related to the controversial notion of playing games away from their usual territories.

A trio of Spanish Real Madrid fans from Cordoba who were at the Bernabeu for River's 3-1 second-leg victory - a result which secured a 5-3 aggregate win and the trophy - thought a Champions League final on another continent would not be as controversial as the match in Madrid.

"We are very excited because Spain has many connections with Argentina and we have the opportunity to live a big, special game," said Ignacio.

"As for the Champions League, they already play the final in different countries so it won't be so strange."

Pablo agreed. "They played the last Champions League final in Kiev, so for us, it's normal if it's in Kiev, Dubai or somewhere else.

"The only thing that will be annoying will be the extra travel."

The question is: was the extraordinary spectacle of a Copa Libertadores final in Europe a genuinely exceptional event, or could it be a sign of things to come as football authorities seek to exploit the game's global appeal?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/46500504

 

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It was an amazing day, crushed the bostis even though we got robbed both legs (first leg our other starting striker got carded unfairly and missed the game because of it) and Pablo Perez should have been sent off for purposely stomping on our own Perez in the first half, there was the clear not sanctioned pen on Pratto and also the prick of a ref carded Ponzio for a clean tackle and that also almost costed us a goal. So this makes it even more rewarding. 

BOCA LA TENES ADENTRO!! you too hijito @José ;)

Also thanks to all you guys for the congratulations.

3 hours ago, SirBalon said:

This for @Berserker... Maybe for a signature?

 

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Will take it mate, thanks.

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13 hours ago, Stan said:

Yeah, great entertainment. Atmosphere seemed alright considering it was away from Argentina but just begs the question of how fucking mental it would have been if it was still at El Monumental?!

Turned out to be a decent game overall. Boca had the first half in the bag. Subs were poor in the 2nd half, Tevez should have come on earlier. Quintero coming on for River was a big move and it paid off. Quality player. Quality strike.

It would have been 100x times better, probably even better than this (the 2015 final)

 

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10 minutes ago, José said:

Gets attack, forced to travel far distance, and forced to play on a pitch were the ball moves a lot more faster (shorter and wet grass). The whole thing was set up for las putas GALLINAS to win it... But even with this trophy won, El fantasma de la B will forever exist. 

That is the worst argument I've ever heard or read to give value to any kind of conspiracy mate! :dam:

So... El Monumental has shorter and wetter grass where the ball moves faster so as to benefit River more than Boca?

Even if it were the case for another club that resides in Buenos Aires (not Madrid in the case of River) that provides a playing surface that benefits the way they play, that would be their own prerogative wouldn't it?  Seeing as they're playing at home!

River Plate are CHAMPIONS of América having won not only the Copa Livertadores, but also winning the only ever Superclásico final ever played.  Class rules my friend!  It's about class at the end of the day and it was fitting that River homed in on a stadium that saw one of their beloved sons in the shape of Alfredo di Stéfano having made history in the same casa.

It will forever be remembered... I would say that the victory in that Superclásico final and all that comes with it is worth more than winning 50 Copa Libertadores.  Boca will never forget the 9th of December 2018 even in 300 hundred years time.  That's what this type of victory gifts you!

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11 minutes ago, José said:

Gets attack, forced to travel far distance, and forced to play on a pitch were the ball moves a lot more faster (shorter and wet grass). The whole thing was set up for las putas GALLINAS to win it... But even with this trophy won, El fantasma de la B will forever exist. 

I'm sorry to burst your bubble of retardedness but our bus also got attacked by voka's fans in the first leg, the only difference is that by chance no players were noticeably injured. Don't make me laugh, we were clearly robbed, clear penalty and Pablo Perez should have been sent off in the first half, not to mention our other starting striker got carded unfairly in the last play of the first game and couldn't play this leg because of it. The rape that was this match and the fact these hijos de puta of the bosteros never ascended to the first division legally like us and all the other teams (they did it thanks to a decree, in concordance with all their corrupt history) will also exist forever.

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So the Copa Libertadores final is set to be moved from Santiago. Looks like it'll be either Lima or Asuncion that gets it. Even bloody Miami was in discussion xD

This is why you can't do a neutral ground for a final in South America. Not to mention, the Sudamericano was already moved to Asuncion from Lima.. CONMEBOL is an embarassment.

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