Dr. Gonzo 8,159 Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 5 minutes ago, Gunnersauraus said: What about his old Labour policies. I've heard he is more old Labour and wants to tax people a lot more ect Yeah he’s more classic Labour than new Labour for sure, and he wants higher taxes on the richest in the UK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 1 hour ago, Dr. Gonzo said: Yeah he’s more classic Labour than new Labour for sure, and he wants higher taxes on the richest in the UK What about normal working class? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Gonzo 8,159 Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 6 minutes ago, Gunnersauraus said: What about normal working class? I’d imagine ideally he’d like working class taxes to go down, but likely they would stay the same best case scenario and worst case go up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluebird Hewitt 1,282 Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 2 hours ago, Dr. Gonzo said: I mean people on the far right say he wants to implement Venezuela style socialism in the UK, but that’s not ever going to happen. The far right are collosal morons, at best, and malicious liars at worst. And honestly I think it’s the latter. He supports socialist programs like NHS and wants strong worker support - so he’s a socialist in that regard. But he’s not a Marxist or a classic socialist, more of a democratic socialist. I’m more afraid of Corbyn’s party leadership than I am of his politics. Like May, I think he’s inept. While I'm not a big lover of Corbyn or May, I don't like this opportunistic asswipe (who also happens to be the MP for my area unfortunately). You probably know who it is before clicking the link. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-47157567 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Artful Dodger 1,831 Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 I'm betting he won't because he knows his salary is at risk if he does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inverted 1,776 Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 One of the worst things about Brexit is that it has given some of the most ruthless, careerist centrists on both sides, like Owen Jones, Chukka Umunna, and Anna Soubry the chance to be seen to make a great moral stand over an issue for once in their lives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fairy In Boots 607 Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 On 05/02/2019 at 14:07, Dr. Gonzo said: Well I doubt the people who were voting BNP in 2000 suddenly stopped being racist - and if you’re a BNP/UKIP voter you are a racist. Well not strictly true, mainstream parties pretty much ignored immigration issues and that led fed up people to go to these parties where they’re concerns were heard, that doesn’t make everyone who voted for either racist. The parties themselves are different, the BNP was racist born out of shit like the NF. UKIP was a Euro skeptic party that gained momentum of the back of euro skepticism and anti immigration sentiments caused by the influx from the EU. On 05/02/2019 at 15:55, Inverted said: More like "I'm not happy with the economy stagnating for the vast majority of people, the vulnerable being thrown out on the streets to die, and then being lied to with doctored employment figures, so I'm going to vote for the party that acknowledges the reality that austerity was based on bogus economics, and instead prioritises real job creation and social security for ordinary people". Lol are you on about the nonce ex serviceman the mirror championed with the “thrown out to die” comment? Also real job creation by nationalising everything or swelling the public sector doesn’t work. Job creation & Corbyn in the same sentence On 09/02/2019 at 16:05, Dr. Gonzo said: Yeah he’s more classic Labour than new Labour for sure, and he wants higher taxes on the richest in the UK But then they just move their money off shore and there’s a hole to fill. It’s a fundamental hole in the plan. Perhaps they can fill it with the money Corbyns son makes from renting out his housing association flat he brought on Airbnb. Although they’re arguing to ban that but it’s not like socialist to not practice what they preach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devil-Dick Willie 3,252 Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 On 06/02/2019 at 01:07, Dr. Gonzo said: Well I doubt the people who were voting BNP in 2000 suddenly stopped being racist - and if you’re a BNP/UKIP voter you are a racist. Sorry, I'm not at all in the know when it comes to UK politics. But the idea that voting a certain way makes you racist is very new to me. Please elaborate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fairy In Boots 607 Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 3 hours ago, Devil-Dick Willie said: Sorry, I'm not at all in the know when it comes to UK politics. But the idea that voting a certain way makes you racist is very new to me. Please elaborate. The BNP were a far right party that had policies such as “end of immigration from Muslim nations and to encourage U.K. residents to return to their country of ethnic origin”. Basically white is right type stuff. The problem is that any criticism of immigration at all and you’re stereotyped as a BNP voter. UKIP is a great example although in its final hour (meaning the referendum) Farage focussed on immigration as it was the hot topic with traditional working class voters who traditionally vote labour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Gonzo 8,159 Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 11 hours ago, Devil-Dick Willie said: Sorry, I'm not at all in the know when it comes to UK politics. But the idea that voting a certain way makes you racist is very new to me. Please elaborate. BNP is a white supreacist party. UKIP is an anti-immigration party that’s been quick to lend support to white supremacists. In short, you vote for white supremacists - you’re either a racist or a moron voting for things you don’t understand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inverted 1,776 Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 18 hours ago, Fairy In Boots said: Lol are you on about the nonce ex serviceman the mirror championed with the “thrown out to die” comment? Also real job creation by nationalising everything or swelling the public sector doesn’t work. Job creation & Corbyn in the same sentence No I'm talking about the people on Universal Credit who, due to insane gaps between payments, administrative oversight, faulty "medical" assessments, or just outright callousness, are left to default on their rent, and forced to try and survive between dangerous and over-burdened temporary shelters and the streets, in the distant hope of being placed on a waiting list for a housing association or council flat. It can be seen in the growing homelessness problem, and I see it every week when I speak to people face-to-face who experience this threat, who have sometimes actually managed to re-establish some kind of normalcy in their lives after already spending a period on the streets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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