Guest Cannabis Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 30 minutes ago, Cicero said: No distress call which is the main concern. Wishful thinking at this point unfortunately. Not sure that's true as I read on another website that there was a distress call near Guernsey asking for immediate landing but before they could arrange such a landing the plan lost communication. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber CaaC (John)+ 5,358 Posted January 22, 2019 Subscriber Share Posted January 22, 2019 Seems he had some fears about the plane after the first flight? Quote According to David Phelippeau’s report, Sala had arrived in Nantes on the same plane from Cardiff over the weekend. On Monday he arrived at the club to say goodbye to his team-mates and have lunch with them one last time. Sala is said to have given a speech before his departure. He then returned to the airport with his team-mate Nicolas Pallois, and expressed his ‘fears about the safety of the flight’. https://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/1076119/Emiliano-Sala-plane-missing-Cardiff-Nantes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berserker 1,332 Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 Who the fuck proportioned that piece of junk of a plane?, and why didn't they switch to other means of transport if they felt unsure on that thing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber Dan+ 1,918 Posted January 22, 2019 Subscriber Share Posted January 22, 2019 This inevitability about the news doesn't half remind me of what happened to us in October. It's absolutely horrible. You just can't imagine any way they've survived it. Horrible horrible day again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber Pyfish+ 2,773 Posted January 22, 2019 Subscriber Share Posted January 22, 2019 The search has been suspended until sunrise again. I agree @Dan, it just has an air of sadness about it that there can only be one outcome at this stage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber Dan+ 1,918 Posted January 22, 2019 Subscriber Share Posted January 22, 2019 2 minutes ago, Pyfish said: The search has been suspended until sunrise again. I agree @Dan, it just has an air of sadness about it that there can only be one outcome at this stage. I don't want to make it all about what happened to us but there are some similarities about it all. It's hit the point for me now where I think there has to be the realistic, but ultimately horrible acceptance that they're probably dead. The lack of news is concerning and it was similar with Vichai, it went on for so long without anything that you thought they're just preparing for that inevitable statement. It's horrible for everyone involved, and I know it's not really the time but I wonder what will actually come from this as a result - do Cardiff still pay the fee etc... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Cicero 5,267 Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 Well what were the floating objects? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber CaaC (John)+ 5,358 Posted January 22, 2019 Subscriber Share Posted January 22, 2019 1 minute ago, Cicero said: Well what were the floating objects? Could have been anything but the police are not going to speculate I presume until they are sure what they are? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber RandoEFC+ 7,661 Posted January 22, 2019 Subscriber Share Posted January 22, 2019 Fuck sake, talk about lightning striking twice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berserker 1,332 Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 They're going to suspend the fucking search?, don't they have powerful lights or something like police choppers have? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Administrator Stan 18,378 Posted January 22, 2019 Administrator Share Posted January 22, 2019 12 minutes ago, Cicero said: Well what were the floating objects? Could be any kind of debris, may not even be from a plane. For the benefit of the friends and family, I guess they want to be 100% sure it's part of the missing plane before confirming anything. 5 minutes ago, Berserker said: They're going to suspend the fucking search?, don't they powerful lights or something like police choppers have? They probably do but I'm guessing it's very windy and treacherous down there so don't want to risk any further incidents involving their own aircrafts, let alone with low visibility compared to daylight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber CaaC (John)+ 5,358 Posted January 22, 2019 Subscriber Share Posted January 22, 2019 15 minutes ago, Cicero said: Well what were the floating objects? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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The Artful Dodger 1,831 Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 Weather is awful over most of the UK at the moment, including the Channel. No point searching in those conditions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smiley Culture 1,651 Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 Probably putting more people in danger in the search for people who, statistically, have a very slim hope of being found, let alone being found alive, so they should be stopping. It’s also incredibly hard to spot something in the dark too, so could be a total waste of resources anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluebird Hewitt 1,282 Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 1 hour ago, Dan said: I don't want to make it all about what happened to us but there are some similarities about it all. It's hit the point for me now where I think there has to be the realistic, but ultimately horrible acceptance that they're probably dead. The lack of news is concerning and it was similar with Vichai, it went on for so long without anything that you thought they're just preparing for that inevitable statement. It's horrible for everyone involved, and I know it's not really the time but I wonder what will actually come from this as a result - do Cardiff still pay the fee etc... Unfortunately, I agree with this. It's now to the point where you hope for the best but fear the worst. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6666 1,310 Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 It doesn't look great at the moment. Longer they're out there, the less chance that they're still alive. Obviously nothing confirmed at the moment and we can hope for the best but as of now it'd be a surprise if they're still alive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honey Honey 3,767 Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 56 minutes ago, CaaC - John said: Genuine question, how accurate is 2 boats, 1 plane and 2 helicopters at covering that sort of radius in 10 hours? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber CaaC (John)+ 5,358 Posted January 22, 2019 Subscriber Share Posted January 22, 2019 15 minutes ago, Harvsky said: Genuine question, how accurate is 2 boats, 1 plane and 2 helicopters at covering that sort of radius in 10 hours? Bloody hard I would imagine, I am only going by what my daughter's partner told me a while back as him being a navy diver who has helped in searches like that, the seas are vast and it all depends on the conditions in trying to spot and distinguish some object (human or whatever) bobbing around on the ocean and air conditions (wind etc), fuel consumption, they may spot something when in a helicopter through scopes a distance back, fly towards it and then it has disappeared, bloody painstaking and like he said "It can be like looking for a needle in a haystack". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Stan 18,378 Posted January 22, 2019 Administrator Share Posted January 22, 2019 46 minutes ago, CaaC - John said: Bloody hard I would imagine, I am only going by what my daughter's partner told me a while back as him being a navy diver who has helped in searches like that, the seas are vast and it all depends on the conditions in trying to spot and distinguish some object (human or whatever) bobbing around on the ocean and air conditions (wind etc), fuel consumption, they may spot something when in a helicopter through scopes a distance back, fly towards it and then it has disappeared, bloody painstaking and like he said "It can be like looking for a needle in a haystack". I'm guessing they'd use infrared or some kind of thermal imaging as well to make it easier to spot something that's not water. And something that's easier to see on a screen as opposed to the naked eye. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber CaaC (John)+ 5,358 Posted January 22, 2019 Subscriber Share Posted January 22, 2019 9 minutes ago, Stan said: I'm guessing they'd use infrared or some kind of thermal imaging as well to make it easier to spot something that's not water. And something that's easier to see on a screen as opposed to the naked eye. They do but if the body is not throwing off any thermal image because they are obscured by some floatage or dead then it's a hard task. "Coast guard and search and rescue teams face extreme conditions daily, as a regular element of their jobs. At night, and especially in stormy weather, efforts to save people in the water can quickly become a nightmare scenario simply because they can’t be seen. Handheld thermal cameras can save rescue teams precious minutes that make the difference between life and death, by revealing the location of people that have been swept overboard and are in imminent danger of drowning. These cameras display images that are based on differences in heat, not on light, and this is what makes them invaluable to crews working against the clock to save lives." https://www.google.com/search?q=Body+Heat+-+Thermal+Image&rlz=1C1CHBF_en-GBGB790GB790&oq=Body+Heat+-+Thermal+Image+&aqs=chrome..69i57.14175j0j1&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IgnisExcubitor 678 Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 Can't blame them for suspending the search. Read that the weather is not ideal. Seems more likely that this will end in sad news. Still can't imagine how tough it must be for the family having to wait these hours, and being hopeful. Really cruel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc 570 Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 Very sad. I wonder if clubs have some kind of insurance in place for death. I'm pretty sure they do for career ending injuries so it would make sense if they did in the result of death Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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