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Feel this is well worthy of a thread given Liverpool are out of sight and the only club capable of giving them a proper run are City. This then goes into the race for the Top 4. 

As it is currently

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Spurs are going into the next few weeks without Kane and Son. 

We are 6 points clear with still no attacking threat up top. We also have Arsenal, City, and Spurs before the end of February. 

Arsenal and United are matched on points with the latter carrying momentum. 

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I think you (Chelsea) will just scrape through in 4th. 

A lot, as usual in 2nd half of the season, would depend on how far each team goes in Europe as this takes a lot out of many squads and perhaps priorities begin to lie elsewhere the further in the competition you get. In the same breath, if you get knocked out earlier, the more you can focus on getting top 4 and CL qualification (it's weird that 'achieving' 4th gets you in to the biggest club competition in the world but that's the way it is).

I think the top 3 will stay as they are. 

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If United make the top 4 then that will be a miracle but I just can't see it, I think United and Arsenal will have to be content with the Europa next season but you never know, I still say Liverpool will hold out and pip City for the title (my son is sitting beside me giving me deadly looks so I had to say that.) 

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From our point of view the positives are that we've played City and Arsenal twice already and have played both Spurs and Chelsea away. The only club in the top 6 we have to go away to is Utd. 

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No reason why United can't get it now. Unless Chelsea get a real striker in to change their fortunes in January. Arsenal look a real outside bet to me. Spurs should be nailed on unless the loss of Son along with a potential injury to Kane over the next few weeks really derails them.

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Over the next few games United have the slightly less problematic fixture list to try and overcome Arsenal but to take over Chelsea there would have to be some serious kind of meltdown to let that happen. Even with the fact they have some top sides to play in the next few games I still think they'll secure the CL spot come late March (Chelsea that is).

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Arsenal and Chelsea are not really any better in points outcome than under Wenger or Conte last season.

Man Utd have the potential momentum to take 4th.

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Think Spurs could be beaten to 3rd if Chelsea or United find a decent run, but they're guaranteed CL imo.

Don't fancy Arsenal for it, but with Emery they're probably banking on the Europa League.

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Chelsea need a top striker if you don't get one. I think you will miss out and Manchester United wil get in. United still have to play Chelsea at home. That's a big one. If Chelsea win at Arsenal that's the Gunners gone. An Arsenal win and their 3 points behind so have every chance to. I think they will miss out due to their defence being so poor. United have all the momentum.

Spurs have to be careful otherwise they could amazingly miss out. However I think they will be fine yes they will miss Kane and Son but I think they'll have enough and they have a good run of fixtures Fulham away Watford at home Newcastle at home and Leicester at home then Burnley away unless they get to the carabao cup final if they do that game will be played later in the season. 

Whatever happens it'll be a thrilling race to the end of the season the same as the battle for the title and the race for 7th and the relegation battle what an end to the season it's going to be.

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The only thing we probably know for certain is, Arsenal are fucked.

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13 minutes ago, Lucas said:

The only thing we probably know for certain is, Arsenal are fucked.

Yeah you cannot defend like they do and hope to get in. Very little has changed with them they also lack creativity minus Ozil.

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Our season is over. Will finish 5th. Liverpool, City, Chelsea, United 

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Just now, Storts said:

Our season is over. Will finish 5th. Liverpool, City, Chelsea, United 

My sarcasm reader is at the repair shop. 

You aren't serious are you?

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6 minutes ago, Cicero said:

My sarcasm reader is at the repair shop. 

You aren't serious are you?

I’m serious. 

We have no Son now either, nobody that can score goals or play up front. No doubt we will lose at the Bridge, get knocked out by Dortmund and probably lose at Palace. By the time Kane is back properly fit it will be April and we will be out the top 4. Awful timing but we pay the price of Daniel refusing to strengthen 

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Kane's injury and Son away drops Spurs into the race for top 4.  Hopefully Arsenal beat Chelsea this weekend and Spurs drop points over the next month or so and we will have a great four way race for the last two Champions League spots.

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What ever happened to that Dutch striker Spurs signed? Janssen?

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7 minutes ago, LFCMike said:

What ever happened to that Dutch striker Spurs signed? Janssen?

Pochetino basically told him to go fuck himself when asked the other day.

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Yeah they must have fallen out for Poch to react like that. He’s also, unfortunately, absolute shite. 

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1 hour ago, Storts said:

I’m serious. 

We have no Son now either, nobody that can score goals or play up front. No doubt we will lose at the Bridge, get knocked out by Dortmund and probably lose at Palace. By the time Kane is back properly fit it will be April and we will be out the top 4. Awful timing but we pay the price of Daniel refusing to strengthen 

Kane being out does put the pressure on, can't deny that he has a lot of influence and is in good form for Spurs, I can see you being a little bit like us for a while, great passing and movement but no decisive cutting edge up front when it matters.. This could have a big negative impact on Spurs season now. Going to need to see how the rest of the team react to this.. 

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Without Son and Kane that is a massive blow for Spurs. Don't think it is as tragic as Storts suggests but they are in a problem. Is it certain that he will miss all those games that Cicero posted?

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Do we have this thread already? I thought we did but I didn't find it.

In any case: who will come 3rd and 4th?

Can Tottenham hang in, they've lost so much momentum this season and have to play City 3 times.

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I think Spurs will be fine and get there. I don't think Chelsea will hold on so then it's between Arsenal & Man Utd. I think far too much fuss is made out of Ole losing a game or two and I think I have more optimism than most about how he'll do in the long-term and for the rest of this season.

All still have European commitments so that's a good leveller. I think if Spurs get knocked out vs Man City then they're still in the best place to secure top 4.

Arsenal have a tough tie against Napoli so perhaps they may see their European adventure ended which would then help them with securing top 4 too.

West Ham could have a big say in how it pans out - they play all 3 sides barring Arsenal.

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Arsenal are a shoe in. 

It'll be between Spurs, United, and us. Particularly in that order. 

Still feel we have a good chance of winning the Europa 

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39 minutes ago, Cicero said:

Still feel we have a good chance of winning the Europa 

Same here, Chelsea are in the same situation as United was when Jose was in charge, he knew the top four and a Championship spot was not on so he settled for the Europa, but saying that it's been a funny old season and you never know, Chelsea just might nick the 4th spot as one of United wheels have come off Ole's car and he is only relying on the other 3 wheels.

Then you have Spurs in their brand new stadium and they might suddenly come unstuck and finish outside the top 4, I can remember when Arsenal left Highbury for the brand new stadium at the Emirates, that move has nosedived, no league titles and no Wenger now and they are hoping past glories return just like when they played at Highbury.

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3. Tottenham - 70pts (+30)
4. Chelsea - 67pts (+21)
5. Arsenal - 66pts (+23)
6. Man Utd - 64pts (+13)

Tottenham
H v. West Ham
A v. Bournemouth
H v. Everton

Chelsea
A v. Man Utd
H v. Watford
A v. Leicester

Arsenal
A v. Leicester
H v. Brighton
A v. Burnley

Man Utd
H v. Chelsea
A v. Huddersfield
H v. Cardiff

Tottenham will most likely get 3rd. Could be any of the other 3 for 4th seeing as all 3 are playing shit.

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