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[Waylander]

24 minutes ago, nudge said:

We have an entire thread for that

 

 

Thanks was not aware and now copied it across.

[Stan]

4m people evacuated in Japan

 

 

[Gunnersaurus]

On 18/08/2022 at 21:54, Dr. Gonzo said:

I assume the people most up in arms about this in Finland are much older (and uglier) than their PM

The fact that Finnish people were mad about their prime minister going to a party and  not breaking any rules and our ex prime minister went to a party during a lockdown, allowed other parties to happen during a lockdown and Jacob Reece mog(rat faced mother fucker as I call him) got promoted recently makes me think Britain's aren't that moral 

[Waylander]

If the Finnish leader was at a private party fair enough yet if she was at a public night club or event she might be judged a security risk.

They border Russia and were once part of the Soviet Union and you can bet there are Russian sleeper agents in Finland.

[nudge+]

2 hours ago, Waylander said:

If the Finnish leader was at a private party fair enough yet if she was at a public night club or event she might be judged a security risk.

They border Russia and were once part of the Soviet Union and you can bet there are Russian sleeper agents in Finland.

Finland was never a part of the Soviet Union. In their sphere of influence - yes, definitely. But they never lost their independence to the Soviets, and were never incorporated into the Soviet Union. Unless you meant the Russian Empire prior to WWI. 

[Gunnersaurus]

@nudge I remember reading that Finland try to keep russia happy or something to avoid an invasion. I though the Soviet union did invade Finland before?

[nudge+]

1 minute ago, Gunnersaurus said:

@nudge I remember reading that Finland try to keep russia happy or something to avoid an invasion. I though the Soviet union did invade Finland before?

They fought twice against the Soviets during WWII, and while they technically lost and had to cede a significant part of their territory to the Soviet Union + pay reparations, they never actually lost their sovereignty. In fact, the Soviets suffered such heavy losses and humiliation by a tiny nation that their victory felt more like defeat and they abandoned their plans to incorporate Finland into the Soviet Union altogether.

Fun history fact: The Finns perfected the use of petrol bombs in the Winter War and named it Molotov cocktail. 

[Waylander]

The Finns ceded 9% of land before WWII, the Soviets argued they were concerned about Leningrad's (now Petersburg's) security though allegedly they actually wanted more land before the League of United Nations were involved. 

Britain was looking to support the Finns yet then the focus quickly switched to Germany.

The point is though as Finland is geographically close to Russia's second city and a major port in the Baltic they would follow politics in Finland with interest. 

[6666]

When was the last time the Pound and the US Dollar were worth the same? Because it's starting to get there...

[OrangeKhrush]

the tea hasn't even cooled and the media branding a democratically elected president as fascist and an attack on democracy, lol.

[OrangeKhrush]

this topic makes me boil, sexual predators advocating that fucked up fetishists lifestyle by exposing it to children.   the solution to this problem is fanning the hammer

[Gunnersaurus]

1 hour ago, OrangeKhrush said:

this topic makes me boil, sexual predators advocating that fucked up fetishists lifestyle by exposing it to children.   the solution to this problem is fanning the hammer

What exactly is fucked  up about it? If people wanna dress like that what does it have to do with you?

 

[Dr. Gonzo]

On 23/09/2022 at 14:09, 6666 said:

When was the last time the Pound and the US Dollar were worth the same? Because it's starting to get there...

1940.

*edit* actually, no that's wrong. In 1940 it was £1 to $4 - which is much higher of a rate than it's been in my life.

They may never have ever been equal before.

Yeah, they've never been equal before. The closest was in 1984 when it was £1 to $1.07... just like it is today.

[OrangeKhrush]

15 hours ago, Gunnersaurus said:

What exactly is fucked  up about it? If people wanna dress like that what does it have to do with you?

 

and groom kids, if you watch it they are actively campaigning reeducation by convincing children to attend.   kids don't go to strip clubs, they don't need to go to drag queen events and they certainly don't need to be conditioned against standard societal practices.  

 

If you want to dress up fine no problem but stop trying to convince people that it's normal.  

[OrangeKhrush]

Germany now policing anything from insult to disagreement with the agenda.   I keep looking at my calender thinking it's 1928-1938.  

get raided by guys in black trench coats with red arm bands.

If the conspiracy is true that Russia and China sought to polite western society to the point of tearing itself down, we are at that point now.  normacy is long gone, the fascists are the ones really in power screaming fascist to those that dare disapprove.

  

[Waylander]

11 hours ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

1940.

*edit* actually, no that's wrong. In 1940 it was £1 to $4 - which is much higher of a rate than it's been in my life.

They may never have ever been equal before.

Yeah, they've never been equal before. The closest was in 1984 when it was £1 to $1.07... just like it is today.

Interestingly that was under Thatcher and Truss models herself on Thatcher.

Both seem to be ideologues in believing in low taxes and free market enterprise. 

She has increased public spending to reduce impact of fuel rises and dropped taxes which has spooked the markets, the Euro is falling too though we are also falling against the Euro.

Think she will allow BOE to tinker with interest rates before changing policy though that does depend on how the markets react.

If they react too strongly she may be forced to change or face a vote of no confidence.

 

 

[Rucksackfranzose]

1 hour ago, OrangeKhrush said:

Germany now policing anything from insult to disagreement with the agenda.   I keep looking at my calender thinking it's 1928-1938.  

get raided by guys in black trench coats with red arm bands.

If the conspiracy is true that Russia and China sought to polite western society to the point of tearing itself down, we are at that point now.  normacy is long gone, the fascists are the ones really in power screaming fascist to those that dare disapprove.

  

First of all, this is exaggerating alot. Second, both insult and hate speach were always illegal and prosecuted in Germany. Third , this comment about  a board to denounce others was already false, when you spread it for the first time, repeating it doesn't it making correct. And finally comparing it to the 30's only shows you either haven't got the slightest idea what the Nazi regime was like or you want to bring the government in discredit because they don't fit your agenda, or, most likely, you're are right wing activist wanting to revise history by playing down their atrocities.

[Gunnersaurus]

2 hours ago, OrangeKhrush said:

and groom kids, if you watch it they are actively campaigning reeducation by convincing children to attend.   kids don't go to strip clubs, they don't need to go to drag queen events and they certainly don't need to be conditioned against standard societal practices.  

 

If you want to dress up fine no problem but stop trying to convince people that it's normal.  

I didn't mention the kids though did I? You said it was fucked up and I asked you why. You're clearly a homophobic, transphobic racist idiot. No point in engaging in conversation with people like you. You dont add anything positive to the world you make it worse. You'll soon get yourself banned from this site. 

[6666]

3 hours ago, OrangeKhrush said:

Germany now policing anything from insult to disagreement with the agenda.   I keep looking at my calender thinking it's 1928-1938.  

get raided by guys in black trench coats with red arm bands.

If the conspiracy is true that Russia and China sought to polite western society to the point of tearing itself down, we are at that point now.  normacy is long gone, the fascists are the ones really in power screaming fascist to those that dare disapprove.

You need to stop listening to that idiot Paul Joseph whatever.

Snowflakes, that love hyperbole and look for any excuse to play victim and to say how the whole world is against them and their kind, don't just come in the form of left wingers.

[OrangeKhrush]

4 hours ago, Rucksackfranzose said:

First of all, this is exaggerating alot. Second, both insult and hate speach were always illegal and prosecuted in Germany. Third , this comment about  a board to denounce others was already false, when you spread it for the first time, repeating it doesn't it making correct. And finally comparing it to the 30's only shows you either haven't got the slightest idea what the Nazi regime was like or you want to bring the government in discredit because they don't fit your agenda, or, most likely, you're are right wing activist wanting to revise history by playing down their atrocities.

the atrocities of fascism is neither left or right wing constrained and both need to be routed out of society.  censorship and thought policing is on route to fascism particularly in formative police states.   

maybe it is hyperbole but it probably is happening hence why it is public domain.   I am just bringing it to the forefront as it is becoming a common trend in the West where the political left and notably the beyond liberal or libertarians that brandish fascist claims about anyone that has a even remotely different political view.  

my political view is centrist, liberty constrained within laws to ensure that liberty does not become absolute.  nationalism is the core value for sustainable nations, diluting nationalism has led to the endemic problems in Italy, Greece, Sweden, France, Germany, the United States.  

the recent paradigm shift in Italy showed that eventually people say no more to giving away national identity for internationalism, great wars on liberation were fought and won on that basis alone, not utilitarian reasons.

censorship and policing state is wrong whether right or left and is trending towards authoritarianism vs liberism and closer to fascism something like china

[Rucksackfranzose]

27 minutes ago, OrangeKhrush said:

the atrocities of fascism is neither left or right wing constrained and both need to be routed out of society.  censorship and thought policing is on route to fascism particularly in formative police states.   

maybe it is hyperbole but it probably is happening hence why it is public domain.   I am just bringing it to the forefront as it is becoming a common trend in the West where the political left and notably the beyond liberal or libertarians that brandish fascist claims about anyone that has a even remotely different political view.  

my political view is centrist, liberty constrained within laws to ensure that liberty does not become absolute.  nationalism is the core value for sustainable nations, diluting nationalism has led to the endemic problems in Italy, Greece, Sweden, France, Germany, the United States.  

the recent paradigm shift in Italy showed that eventually people say no more to giving away national identity for internationalism, great wars on liberation were fought and won on that basis alone, not utilitarian reasons.

censorship and policing state is wrong whether right or left and is trending towards authoritarianism vs liberism and closer to fascism something like china

Excuse me, but being against abortion is centrist since? Also to mention great wars in context to an Italian  party  formerly gloryfying Mussolini is suggesting the libertarian armies were the German Reichswehr and their confederates. in my honest opinion, how is that centrist? Aw and correct me if I'm wrong but you've got no qualms censoring homosexual or transsexual living styles.

Edited September 28, 2022 by Rucksackfranzose

[OrangeKhrush]

33 minutes ago, Rucksackfranzose said:

Excuse me, but being against abortion is centrist since? Also to mention great wars in context to an Italian  party  formerly gloryfying Mussolini is suggesting the libertarian armies were the German Reichswehr and their confederates. in my honest opinion, how is that centrist? Aw and correct me if I'm wrong but you've got no qualms censoring homosexual or transsexual living styles.

I'm not against abortion, I accept abortion up to 12 weeks beyond that only a practioner can make the decision.  I am opposed to late term abortion as after 3 months their is distinct human function.

what i am against is using abortion as a means to excuse responsibility for promiscuous lifestyles.  I am against it as a means to escape poor life choices.

I am pro adoption as there are millions of families that are incapable of bearing their own kids and will give the child the chance.  

the solution to the abortion problem is to reduce promiscuous behaviour and start a culture of responsible life choices.  also 83% of America support limits on abortion up to 12 weeks max, I guess they are fascists to.

I am all for shunning lifestyles that promote pedophilia or sexualized innuendo in the presence of children and I'm sure about 90% of the planet agree.  grinding on kids while dessing like a female is beyond amoral to even justify.   go drag in events scattered for that market and enjoy but sexual perversion in front of kids is just or trying to make it socially acceptable is a hard no.

so in 1930 they had Mussolini, it's 2022 things change.  they won not by glorifying fascism but by recognising lost Italian identity along with view points that step on the toes of progressive leftists.

in all your posts you are trying to portray fascist views because I don't subscribe to leftist ideology.  thry typical leftist arguments if they disagree must be fascist because my view is all and everything and will impose it upon you.

[Rucksackfranzose]

11 hours ago, OrangeKhrush said:

Germany now policing anything from insult to disagreement with the agenda.   I keep looking at my calender thinking it's 1928-1938.  

get raided by guys in black trench coats with red arm bands.

If the conspiracy is true that Russia and China sought to polite western society to the point of tearing itself down, we are at that point now.  normacy is long gone, the fascists are the ones really in power screaming fascist to those that dare disapprove.

  

 

3 hours ago, OrangeKhrush said:

I'm not against abortion, I accept abortion up to 12 weeks beyond that only a practioner can make the decision.  I am opposed to late term abortion as after 3 months their is distinct human function.

what i am against is using abortion as a means to excuse responsibility for promiscuous lifestyles.  I am against it as a means to escape poor life choices.

I am pro adoption as there are millions of families that are incapable of bearing their own kids and will give the child the chance.  

the solution to the abortion problem is to reduce promiscuous behaviour and start a culture of responsible life choices.  also 83% of America support limits on abortion up to 12 weeks max, I guess they are fascists to.

I am all for shunning lifestyles that promote pedophilia or sexualized innuendo in the presence of children and I'm sure about 90% of the planet agree.  grinding on kids while dessing like a female is beyond amoral to even justify.   go drag in events scattered for that market and enjoy but sexual perversion in front of kids is just or trying to make it socially acceptable is a hard no.

so in 1930 they had Mussolini, it's 2022 things change.  they won not by glorifying fascism but by recognising lost Italian identity along with view points that step on the toes of progressive leftists.

in all your posts you are trying to portray fascist views because I don't subscribe to leftist ideology.  thry typical leftist arguments if they disagree must be fascist because my view is all and everything and will impose it upon you.

You do see the hypocrisy I highlighted by bolding parts of your quote, don't you? Or are you claiming to be a leftist now?

Edited September 28, 2022 by Rucksackfranzose

[OrangeKhrush]

10 hours ago, Rucksackfranzose said:

 

You do see the hypocrisy I highlighted by bolding parts of your quote, don't you? Or are you claiming to be a leftist now?

supporting laws against late stage abortion is neither liberal or conservative but rather supported by most jurisdictions that place a first trimester limit on abortion.  Germany like south Africa, like the UK and about 147 nations including China and Russia have first trimester limits.  I am not sure how trimester limits is not liberal in the sense that it values the right to life.  

the notion that conservatism is not founded in liberal values is also a common misconception, moderate left or centrists differ on small details which is why up to 2016 the differences were not polarised like they have since become.   issues of abortion were settled years ago and it is very reasonable.

the other misconception is that fascism is far right, it is neither far right any more than far left.  most fascist regimes stem from a socialistic communistic regime which the Nazi Party were.

Edited September 29, 2022 by OrangeKhrush

[OrangeKhrush]

apparently "dickhead" is offensive.  wonder what the mental gymnastics will be on this.  

watch the whole video as there are some pressing issues that seem to get skirted around like its normal