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1 minute ago, Fairy In Boots said:

Without going down the rabbit hole, just do a bit of research into radicalisation in UK prisons. 

Prefer Everton fans, the best type of scouser.  Liverpool fans are the footballing equivalent of radical religious nutters, hence the reason they’re disliked. 

Not shocked that you’re making yet another sweeping generalisation. 

 

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2 minutes ago, Fairy In Boots said:

Without going down the rabbit hole, just do a bit of research into radicalisation in UK prisons. 

Prefer Everton fans, the best type of scouser.  Liverpool fans are the footballing equivalent of radical religious nutters, hence the reason they’re disliked. 

You probably would like my blueshite cousins more than me, they’re Tory bastards

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3 hours ago, Smiley Culture said:

Not shocked that you’re making yet another sweeping generalisation. 

 

Lol I told you to research it yourself (which you haven’t evidently), hardly a sweeping generalisation. The irony of you saying that is funny though

3 hours ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

You probably would like my blueshite cousins more than me, they’re Tory bastards

Nah I like Evertonians they’re very warm welcoming folk often down to earth and capable of self reflection and self deprecating. 

Liverpool on the other hand, are different but they’ve been designed that way. 

Shankly was a socialist who tore straight out the socialist propaganda playbook to build “his” Liverpool. He created an “us” & “them” mentality which is deep rooted to this day. 

Hes also borrowed heavily from Catholicism and organised religion to mobilise his zealots. 

YNWA is the hymn,

Anfield is a cathedral/shrine 

he actively preached holy trinity manager, players, fans (true socialist himself is part of it)

All the managers after him were “disciples”

It’s so deep rooted you can’t even see your doing it. All your “great” players are given religious based monickers St Owen, fowler was God, saviour Gerrard. 

Half the banners in the stadium have a religious meaning. 

Then you always start by singing your hymm. 

Ex players go out & preach the gospel of Liverpool. 

It’s why the vast majority of your fan base are thick zealots who see themselves as Liverpool above all else. Offended by absolutely everything and ashamed of nothing. The footballing equivalent of fundamentalists. 

Thats why nobody wants you to win tbh. Respect what you’ve achieved as a club but I don’t like the club one bit to be honest. 

 

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This is the one time I wish Islamic State was recognized as a State by the international community, so that those who joined ISIS acquired ISIS citizenship and in the process lost their original citizenships. What those nutheads do to the yazidis is hard to believe. 

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Yeah I see all that and I see someone looking into way too much to just justify hating a football club instead of being honest and saying "I hate them." I like how you seem to have 2 halves of the football supporting population of a city sorted out based off who they support. Such brilliant insights xD

Can't be arsed what other fans think of us, can't be arsed what most people think about anything nowadays.

1 minute ago, Stan said:

The bint has been denied British citizenship/had her citizenship revoked.

Happy days.

Great news. Let's let that be the end of her story in the media. She made her bed, now she can lie in it.

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Pleased with the decision in the end... They have been trying to drum up support based on the fact she has a child now or represents no threat but for me the fact she went off to join a terrorist organisation and would be bringing back those ideals is what is wrong for me... Anyone associated with such organisations should not be free to return to this country... As has already been pointed out here she made her bed now has to lay in it..  

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1 hour ago, Fairy In Boots said:

Lol I told you to research it yourself (which you haven’t evidently), hardly a sweeping generalisation. The irony of you saying that is funny though

Nah I like Evertonians they’re very warm welcoming folk often down to earth and capable of self reflection and self deprecating. 

Liverpool on the other hand, are different but they’ve been designed that way. 

Shankly was a socialist who tore straight out the socialist propaganda playbook to build “his” Liverpool. He created an “us” & “them” mentality which is deep rooted to this day. 

Hes also borrowed heavily from Catholicism and organised religion to mobilise his zealots. 

YNWA is the hymn,

Anfield is a cathedral/shrine 

he actively preached holy trinity manager, players, fans (true socialist himself is part of it)

All the managers after him were “disciples”

It’s so deep rooted you can’t even see your doing it. All your “great” players are given religious based monickers St Owen, fowler was God, saviour Gerrard. 

Half the banners in the stadium have a religious meaning. 

Then you always start by singing your hymm. 

Ex players go out & preach the gospel of Liverpool. 

It’s why the vast majority of your fan base are thick zealots who see themselves as Liverpool above all else. Offended by absolutely everything and ashamed of nothing. The footballing equivalent of fundamentalists. 

Thats why nobody wants you to win tbh. Respect what you’ve achieved as a club but I don’t like the club one bit to be honest. 

 

And you’re an expert on the prison service, are you?

Don’t believe everything you’ve ever read, soft lad. 

But of course, your sweeping generalisations are always correct. 

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9 hours ago, Smiley Culture said:

And you’re an expert on the prison service, are you?

Don’t believe everything you’ve ever read, soft lad. 

But of course, your sweeping generalisations are always correct. 

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/jun/03/surge-in-terrorists-eligible-for-parole-poses-threat-to-uk-security

have a read of that and fuck off you gimp

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7 minutes ago, The Artful Dodger said:

This will be appealed and the government will lose.

It's classic Tory strategy - attempt to do something blatantly illegal to score easy points with the masses, then let the judicial system take the flak for insisting that the law be obeyed.

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Only read the snippet in the picture on the  tweet but how mad is it that 400 fighters have been allowed to return home, if true? Why pick on this woman and make this one more of a story? Not to mention that there were two identical stories that broke in America and Canada at the same time this Begum story broke in UK... 

 

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Born here, raised here, groomed here. It's a cheap move to try and palm her off on Bangladesh, a country she has never been to in her life. 

I read the other day about a historical cultural study that says the idea that you share the nationality of your parents or grandparents because of biology was born out of western colonial ideas of racial purity and kinship. It isn't shared in communities untouched by colonialism and the colonial influence on international order, there it makes no sense to the people that you can be of something you've never been.

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I’ve given this a lot of thought since the news broke and have come to the opinion that she must be allowed to come back to Britain. We cannot claim to be a civilised society but act uncivilised when it suits. The law is the law. If it is considered that it is not suitable enough at thev inute to deal with this isdue then look to change it. That’s another discussion though. I also am not comfortable with the thought of giving up on a person who made a poor decision when she was a child. We as a nation profess that we are better than the people that she left us for. So let’s act like it.

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I try to avoid topics like this myself being an ex-army man who has lost comrades fighting terrorists of whoever what, but at the end of the day she is a British citizen and what @Stan posted above just shows how the present government (that stinks looking for other news to throw people off the Brexit issue) could not handle a bunch of cattle in a field at feeding time.

Bring her home if we must and then consider a trial would be the easiest thing to do.

 

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The new reality of the entire Europe. Returning terrorists. 

As a country which routinely forgives people who had gone to Syria to fight for Isis, militants from Kashmir (we even had a case of Nazir Ahmed Wani, a former terrorist turned army man who gave his life for the country) and Naxalities (communist terrorists who fight in jungles), I think rehabilitating them is the right thing to do. 

But you need the individual feeling remorseful of their actions(the most important bit that), full involvement of the family and local community. And even then there will some cases of people remaining extremist. But despite that the rehabilitation program should be encouraged and backed. It also acts as a deterrent to youngsters taking up arms and becoming future terrorists.

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