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West Brom Sack Darren Moore; Bilic as Replacement?

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Weird.

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2 minutes ago, Cannabis said:

Bit late but OK xD

Late to what?

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FFS, that's unreal, the guy was doing well as far as I could see, who have they got lined up, José Mourinho?  :eek:

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They’re in the play offs, what else do they expect??

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Disgraceful decision I’ve met him a few times as he was a family friend of a mate, an absolutely lovely bloke who had the club at his heart. 

I thought he’d done a great job as well

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Seems strange to sack him now, they're on to finish in the play offs, what will happen now, at best...they'll finish in the play offs? 

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1 minute ago, Cannabis said:

Posted it in the management changes thread ages ago.

Meh. A mere 20 minutes before xD 

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Absolute savage from West Brom. Moore has been hung out to dry by the club he loves. Shocking treatment really.

Ok, they have bombed automatic.  But is 4th place really such a failure? Where are Stoke and Swansea who also went down last season?

Darren Moore inherited a team in a shambolic state last year and installed some fight into them late into the Premier League season. The players rallied behind him. Generally speaking, they haven't had a bad season although the last three results have been catastrophic for them.

West Brom's owners have panicked big time. I suspect they are desperate to go straight back up for financial reasons and obviously seen enough to deduct they don't have the faith in Moore to achieve this.

But this league is a tough nut to crack. Losing Harvey Barnes was massive too because he was outstanding to the point he left. Results will be up and down. But there was nothing to suggest they couldn't have won the playoffs with Moore.

Just dumbfounded really.

 

 

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There’s got to be more to this story than a 1-1 draw in a game against Ipswich Town that they were expected to win. Was the target top two perhaps and being nine points off with ten games left was the final straw? Or is there something behind the scenes we don’t know about perhaps?

Seven points clear of Bristol City, who are just outside of the play-off’s seems a more than reasonable position to be in with ten games left, especially given Aston Villa, Stoke City and Swansea City are 14th, 15th and 16th in the league. 

Moore’s style of football was interesting. Despite being a defender in his playing days, he favoured an attacking brand of football where little importance was placed on defending and despite conceding plenty, they’ve managed to score plenty through Jay Rodriguez, Dwight Gayle and Harvey Barnes this season. Whilst entertaining and value for money, I suppose it doesn’t fill many with confidence should they go up, when they can’t keep a clean sheet in home Championship games. 

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Eh wtf.

Hope they stay down even more now so we can have Rondon in a straight swap for Gayle and no more.

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53 minutes ago, Smiley Culture said:

There’s got to be more to this story than a 1-1 draw in a game against Ipswich Town that they were expected to win. Was the target top two perhaps and being nine points off with ten games left was the final straw? Or is there something behind the scenes we don’t know about perhaps?

Seven points clear of Bristol City, who are just outside of the play-off’s seems a more than reasonable position to be in with ten games left, especially given Aston Villa, Stoke City and Swansea City are 14th, 15th and 16th in the league. 

Moore’s style of football was interesting. Despite being a defender in his playing days, he favoured an attacking brand of football where little importance was placed on defending and despite conceding plenty, they’ve managed to score plenty through Jay Rodriguez, Dwight Gayle and Harvey Barnes this season. Whilst entertaining and value for money, I suppose it doesn’t fill many with confidence should they go up, when they can’t keep a clean sheet in home Championship games. 

Rumours down this part of the world that the Chinese backers have cash issues similar to Tony Xia did with us, all or nothing for them apparently 😬

Got to love English footballs attitude to who takes over clubs

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3 hours ago, The Artful Dodger said:

What's the difference between an administrator and a moderator on an internet forum, may i ask?

Mod can only delete posts, topics etc. Admin can change the entire coding of the forum, add new sections etc

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If there's one thing I've learnt in the past two years in football it's that you'll only truly get it if you support that club so having scoured West Brom fans reactions a bit, I get the feeling that they have been pretty poor for a while - haven't won at home since boxing day and are looking a bit lost without Barnes. 4th in the table is not bad but they're on a bit of a downwards trajectory.

Then again I've seen some pretty passionate defences for him as well and a lot seem to agree.

I do think this one's pretty ruthless mind you. Hope for their sake they've got a good replacement lined up immediately because they aren't in a bad position.

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I just can't work out why they sacked a guy that has got them into the playoffs yet the rumours now are they are looking at former managers from other clubs that also got sacked?

 

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Former Derby County boss Gary Rowett is 8/1 with Sky Bet to be the next West Bromwich Albion manager.

Rowett left Derby at the end of last season to become Stoke City manager, but was sacked in January.

Former Fulham boss Slavisa Jokanovic is 4/7 favourite followed by David Moyes and Preston's Alex Neil at 7/1.

https://www.derbytelegraph.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/former-derby-county-boss-betting-2632441

 

 

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Would quite like a football club to attempt or at least, threaten, to sue a black journalist, pundit etc for libel. To suggest that the sacking of Darren Moore, a man who has led his side to just three home wins since October, that is something to do with the colour of his skin is slanderous to say the least. 

I like Darren Moore a lot but if you’re not winning your home games, in front of your season ticket holders, when you have the expectations that West Brom clearly do, you can’t really grumble that much if you get sacked. 

To suggest West Brom of all clubs, the club famed in the past for black players and a club in one of the most multicultural areas of the country that undertake loads of charitable work within those communities are racist, is simply ludicrous. 

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9 minutes ago, Smiley Culture said:

Would quite like a football club to attempt or at least, threaten, to sue a black journalist, pundit etc for libel. To suggest that the sacking of Darren Moore, a man who has led his side to just three home wins since October, that is something to do with the colour of his skin is slanderous to say the least. 

I like Darren Moore a lot but if you’re not winning your home games, in front of your season ticket holders, when you have the expectations that West Brom clearly do, you can’t really grumble that much if you get sacked. 

To suggest West Brom of all clubs, the club famed in the past for black players and a club in one of the most multicultural areas of the country that undertake loads of charitable work within those communities are racist, is simply ludicrous. 

This was without doubt Puel's biggest undoing at Leicester and also at Southampton too - abysmal home results and performances which made the majority of the fans unhappy.

I do get the impression at West Brom the wheels were starting to fall off a bit.

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Surprised by his sacking, done well for WBA and looks like a really cool dude. What happens if they don't make the play off's now?

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On 11/03/2019 at 19:01, Bluebird Hewitt said:

I see Garth Crooks has played the race card over this. :dam:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/47515333

While the sacking is ridiculous, this is another one of those odd sackings like many others in the past.

People like Crooks, like Campbell, who think they are the internet generation's answer to Malcolm X can fuck themselves.

Doing plenty to expand the racial gap when it SIMPLY IS NOT THE FUCKING ISSUE, in the name of self-aggrandisement; you're a scourge on the dream of racial equality. Shame.

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17 minutes ago, Large said:

 

A radio presenter talking bollocks to create content for his show? Why do people still fall for that crap?

 

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On 14/03/2019 at 12:20, Smiley Culture said:

A radio presenter talking bollocks to create content for his show? Why do people still fall for that crap?

 

I'm no fan of Durham's, and I agree that he does talk a lot of "bollocks", but some of his points are interesting to hear and be considered. I'm not having all of it, but am not ignoring it all either just because the fella is a plum. His points about the treatment of previous managers is correct, so hard to ignore.

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I loathe Durham. But he has a point. 

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I think football fans are far too keen to quash any suggestions of racism within the game, the discussion needs to be broad and I think valid points were made on Talksport (never said that before). 

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I don't think Durham's as bad as he's made out to be. There are times when he is obviously trolling and being a twat but he does make the odd good point.

What he says there, I don't think you can totally brush it all off as rubbish just like that, but I've always been a bit uncomfortable with this idea that the minute you bring racism into an argument it becomes some kind of trump card where you can't question it, and I feel like that about a number of things as well - effectively gives people a license to bend things to suit themselves.

Criminals using mental health as an excuse for their behaviour as well is another one. I'm not having it. It's just a trump card.

You've got to aim some stick at the likes of UEFA as well. This lot who perpetrate this anti-racism message for no reason other than to virtue signal yet when the chips are down they're harder on people who breach advertising rules, they're trivialising the matter as far as I'm concerned.

You need to be harder on proven racists and make an example on them but I'm not comfortable with branding West Brom racist for sacking Darren Moore either. It'll be exactly the same with Macclesfield as well if they ever sack Sol Campbell.

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2 hours ago, Cannabis said:

What an absolute load of bollocks, why do people give this weapon the time of day? Been living off this "troll" status for years. 

So you honestly believe that there's not one iota of probability of what he says? Why not?

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5 minutes ago, Cannabis said:

There aren't successful black managers because the ones that have managed have been shite, it's nothing to do with race. 

West Brom felt a change was needed so they sacked him - simple as. If they were as racist as the media is making up then they wouldn't have hired him in the first place.

Just snowflakes being snowflakes. Racism this, let's be PC that.

Well as I've said, people can choose to completely ignore the fact that they gave other managers who were white a lot more slack than they seem to have given the black one all they like, but it's happened. It might have nothing to do whatsoever with colour, and I really do hope so, but I cannot see how faced with the facts anyone can rule it out. And saying the fact they hired him in the first place proves they're most definitely not racist is nonsense. How many times you heard a racist argue they aren't becasue they've got black mates?

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1 minute ago, Cannabis said:

Strange how a white manager being sacked has never been down the racism then? It's a poor argument all round. A complete non-story.

You are correct. I don't disagree at all that it's not even a consideration for white managers, but again how has that anything to do with the facts surrounding this specific situation? It's a poorer argument to make saying this is definintely not anything to do with racism just becasue it's not.

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