Eco 3,008 Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 I like Hulk, but it's sadly looking like he'll have a career without any wins and I'm not even sure he's finished on the podium before, so I hope he gets a seat next year if it is true that Ocon is joining Renualt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator Tommy 12,604 Posted August 23, 2019 Author Moderator Share Posted August 23, 2019 2 minutes ago, Eco said: I like Hulk, but it's sadly looking like he'll have a career without any wins and I'm not even sure he's finished on the podium before, so I hope he gets a seat next year if it is true that Ocon is joining Renualt. Well, he never got a chance at a top team when he was younger because of his height/weight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eco 3,008 Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 Just now, Tommy said: Well, he never got a chance at a top team when he was younger because of his height/weight I heard that. I don't see anything physically different about him though. Is he too big and too tall? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator Tommy 12,604 Posted August 23, 2019 Author Moderator Share Posted August 23, 2019 2 minutes ago, Eco said: I heard that. I don't see anything physically different about him though. Is he too big and too tall? No, he's at a shitty team And he has been at mediocre team too long that people forgot what a hot shot he once was, plus more exciting youngstars have entered F1 in the meantime. He had a pretty unlucky career in F1, I'd say. But I hope he still achieves that podium one day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eco 3,008 Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 1 minute ago, Tommy said: No, he's at a shitty team And he has been at mediocre team too long that people forgot what a hot shot he once was, plus more exciting youngstars have entered F1 in the meantime. He had a pretty unlucky career in F1, I'd say. But I hope he still achieves that podium one day. you said he never got a chance because of his height/weight? I asked if he is considered too tall and/or too heavy? You reply with the above Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator Tommy 12,604 Posted August 23, 2019 Author Moderator Share Posted August 23, 2019 40 minutes ago, Eco said: I asked if he is considered too tall and/or too heavy? Nope, they loosened the weight limit a bit, but as I said, now there are other factors. He's no longer considered a top driver as he wants was because he has been at midfielder teams for too long now, IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eco 3,008 Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 4 minutes ago, Tommy said: Nope, they loosened the weight limit a bit, but as I said, now there are other factor. He's no longer considered a top driver as he wants was because he has been at midfielder teams for too long now, IMO. Yeah. As for the team, you have to understand that they are in crisis mode, Last finishing as the 'best of the rest' in 4th, a lot of praise and momentum gonig into this year with signing Riccarido, and now Renault are sitting 6th, miles behind McLaren in 4th. Haas is still having the worst year so far, but Renault is probably right behind them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator Tommy 12,604 Posted August 23, 2019 Author Moderator Share Posted August 23, 2019 Also, Cyril seems to be a man of his worth if he really replaces Nico Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber nudge+ 15,325 Posted August 23, 2019 Subscriber Share Posted August 23, 2019 49 minutes ago, Eco said: I like Hulk, but it's sadly looking like he'll have a career without any wins and I'm not even sure he's finished on the podium before, so I hope he gets a seat next year if it is true that Ocon is joining Renualt. Still the only Le Mans winner on the whole current grid You know; just THE toughest motor race in the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator Tommy 12,604 Posted August 23, 2019 Author Moderator Share Posted August 23, 2019 Almost won Brazil 2012 in a Force India as well if some noobie in a McLaren didn't take him out* *it might have been his fault. My memory is a little hazy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eco 3,008 Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 So, if you two were in charge @nudge and @Tommy, what would you do? Keep both, or move to a young talent like Ocon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator Tommy 12,604 Posted August 23, 2019 Author Moderator Share Posted August 23, 2019 7 minutes ago, Eco said: So, if you two were in charge @nudge and @Tommy, what would you do? Keep both, or move to a young talent like Ocon? I'd keep both and built a decent car. Is Ocon really THAT talented? Sure he's good, but both seasons he finished behind his teammate. Although Checo is a hell of a driver, and Esteban was relatively new. But still.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eco 3,008 Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 2 minutes ago, Tommy said: I'd keep both and built a decent car. Is Ocon really THAT talented? Sure he's good, but both seasons he finished behind his teammate. Although Checo is a hell of a driver, and Esteban was relatively new. But still.. I didn't mean he's the best young talent, but he is a younger talent and that seems like something a lot of F1 teams are doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber nudge+ 15,325 Posted August 23, 2019 Subscriber Share Posted August 23, 2019 33 minutes ago, Eco said: So, if you two were in charge @nudge and @Tommy, what would you do? Keep both, or move to a young talent like Ocon? Yeah I think it doesn't make much difference who sits in the car at this point; they need to sort the car first. I'd personally get rid of Abiteboul first and try to assemble a competent team if I was in charge. Renault going for Ocon is understandable; a French driver in a French works team and all that jazz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber nudge+ 15,325 Posted September 7, 2019 Subscriber Share Posted September 7, 2019 The rumours are starting... Quote Formula One company documents have revealed that French auto maker Renault could leave the sport at the end of next year despite multiple media reports claiming it is the only outfit which has committed to race beyond 2020. https://www.forbes.com/sites/csylt/2019/09/02/no-assurance-renault-will-stay-in-f1-after-next-year/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator Tommy 12,604 Posted September 8, 2019 Author Moderator Share Posted September 8, 2019 Ocon will be like Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator Tommy 12,604 Posted September 24, 2019 Author Moderator Share Posted September 24, 2019 Watched this last night. Quite interesting how Renault are still struggling because they heavily under-invested since the mid 00's and left the sport at some point as a team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber nudge+ 15,325 Posted October 13, 2019 Subscriber Share Posted October 13, 2019 Renault might be in real trouble here. Racing Point's protest has been accepted and it being a 12-page dossier likely means they've been onto them for quite a while so it's probably safe to assume that they're onto something at least. FIA already moved to seal and impound the steering wheels and electronic control units of both Renault cars in preparation for a detailed analysis of them, as well as analysis of associated hardware, software and data. Exciting times; a bit surprised people aren't talking more about it considering we haven't had illegal car allegations for quite a long time now Juicy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator Tommy 12,604 Posted October 13, 2019 Author Moderator Share Posted October 13, 2019 Serves them right for getting rid of Hülkenberg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber nudge+ 15,325 Posted October 23, 2019 Subscriber Share Posted October 23, 2019 Both Renault cars have been disqualified from the Japanese GP for using driver aids https://www.fia.com/news/decisions-protest-cars-3-and-27-japanese-grand-prix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator Tommy 12,604 Posted October 23, 2019 Author Moderator Share Posted October 23, 2019 42 minutes ago, nudge said: Both Renault cars have been disqualified from the Japanese GP for using driver aids https://www.fia.com/news/decisions-protest-cars-3-and-27-japanese-grand-prix That's "milder" than other theories I've read. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber nudge+ 15,325 Posted October 23, 2019 Subscriber Share Posted October 23, 2019 2 minutes ago, Tommy said: That's "milder" than other theories I've read. Because FIA's findings are a bit weird. Essentially they are saying that the system itself is exploiting grey areas but is not directly a breach of the technical regulations but the use of it is a breach of sporting regulations Hence a mild punishment I suppose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator Tommy 12,604 Posted October 23, 2019 Author Moderator Share Posted October 23, 2019 4 minutes ago, nudge said: Because FIA's findings are a bit weird. Essentially they are saying that the system itself is exploiting grey areas but is not directly a breach of the technical regulations but the use of it is a breach of sporting regulations Hence a mild punishment I suppose. Let's hope they don't find Ferrari's "grey areas" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber nudge+ 15,325 Posted October 23, 2019 Subscriber Share Posted October 23, 2019 1 hour ago, Tommy said: That's "milder" than other theories I've read. Good article here: https://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/formel-1/renault-disqualifikation-suzuka-japan-bremsbalance-urteil/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber nudge+ 15,325 Posted October 25, 2019 Subscriber Share Posted October 25, 2019 Ohoh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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