Guest Posted April 21, 2019 Share Posted April 21, 2019 I'm not watching the game but I am so used to seeing Peruvian players with talent but no work rate or a will to play. That translates to the likes of Pogba and Lukaku, whom I've noticed that mentality when I've seen United. They are both very talented, but have a horrible attitude that doesn't warrant being at a club like Manchester United. I always think Carrillo and Christian Cueva, who are the same deal although not quite as good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MUFC 1,497 Posted April 21, 2019 Share Posted April 21, 2019 I'll judge Ole properly after he brings his own players in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 21, 2019 Share Posted April 21, 2019 @Bluebird Hewitt this is your chance to say I told you so Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick 2,271 Posted April 21, 2019 Share Posted April 21, 2019 Nah, this team aren't gonna do fucking anything on Wednesday. Even if they tried, they are shite. Title is City's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 21, 2019 Share Posted April 21, 2019 4 minutes ago, MUFC said: I'll judge Ole properly after he brings his own players in. I'm not saying you said this but a lot of fans said utd had very good players and Olr wasn't doing anything. Not it seems some are saying he doesn't have the players Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honey Honey 3,767 Posted April 21, 2019 Share Posted April 21, 2019 6 minutes ago, Bluewolf said: I think Paul Ince didn't pay much attention in history class... Does he not know who Hitler was either? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 21, 2019 Share Posted April 21, 2019 15 minutes ago, Bluewolf said: I think Paul Ince didn't pay much attention in history class... Don't get what you mean? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Gonzo 8,180 Posted April 21, 2019 Share Posted April 21, 2019 Fucking hell can they sack Ole and get Ferguson back for Wednesday? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber RandoEFC+ 7,644 Posted April 21, 2019 Subscriber Share Posted April 21, 2019 Smashing job. Last four home games Liverpool, Arsenal, Chelsea, Man Utd. Won 3 Drawn 1 Lost 0 Scored 7 Conceded 0 Can we play the top six every week? As for United, do people still think it was all Mourinho's fault that he couldn't motivate these players? Mercenaries only interested in their wage packet and latest brands that they're getting involved in. Pogba is the obvious example but Lukaku, Martial, Sanchez, Fred, Young, bunch of prima donnas. The culture in that dressing room is fucked and Pogba is the first cancer that needs to be removed. Build a team around Rashford, Lingard and McTominay and they might actually compete for a title again in my lifetime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber Mel81x+ 3,612 Posted April 21, 2019 Subscriber Share Posted April 21, 2019 As Michael Owen talks about how shit United have been David Moyes puts in a nice wry smile. Good on you David, good on you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluewolf 7,161 Posted April 21, 2019 Share Posted April 21, 2019 1 hour ago, Gunnersauraus said: Don't get what you mean? He is saying it wouldn't have happened in Fergies era??? and he is talking about the defence. United were humbled a number of times under Fergie with a poor defensive showing from the players both individually and collectively... Just to name a few... Manchester United 1-6 Manchester City - Premier League - October 23, 2011 Manchester United 1-4 Liverpool - Premier League - March 14, 2009 Manchester United1-3 Chelsea - Premier League - May 10, 2005 Manchester United 0-3 York City - League Cup - September 20, 1995 Let's not pretend that United were a defensive rock the whole time Fergie was in charge, Fergie even described the City result as his "worst day" at United.. every club gets a pasting from time to time.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inverted 1,776 Posted April 21, 2019 Share Posted April 21, 2019 People relentlessly referring to Alex Ferguson with none of the understanding of what made him a great manager is easily one of the biggest reasons why the footballing culture around Man U is completely fucked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 21, 2019 Share Posted April 21, 2019 7 minutes ago, Mel81x said: As Michael Owen talks about how shit United have been David Moyes puts in a nice wry smile. Good on you David, good on you. I heard he said he's hoping he wasn't that bad. I love the British sense of humour so much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Artful Dodger 1,831 Posted April 21, 2019 Share Posted April 21, 2019 Signs of hope for Everton, Silva starting to make things happen. Especially at home, his away form has always been poor in England though. If he can keep the better players and add some more quality next season should be promising. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber RandoEFC+ 7,644 Posted April 21, 2019 Subscriber Share Posted April 21, 2019 2 minutes ago, The Artful Dodger said: Signs of hope for Everton, Silva starting to make things happen. Especially at home, his away form has always been poor in England though. If he can keep the better players and add some more quality next season should be promising. Away form has been a real issue for us for a long time. This season we've only won a handful on the road but it's still more than we have in any season since Martinez was manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 21, 2019 Share Posted April 21, 2019 17 minutes ago, Bluewolf said: He is saying it wouldn't have happened in Fergies era??? and he is talking about the defence. United were humbled a number of times under Fergie with a poor defensive showing from the players both individually and collectively... Just to name a few... Manchester United 1-6 Manchester City - Premier League - October 23, 2011 Manchester United 1-4 Liverpool - Premier League - March 14, 2009 Manchester United1-3 Chelsea - Premier League - May 10, 2005 Manchester United 0-3 York City - League Cup - September 20, 1995 Let's not pretend that United were a defensive rock the whole time Fergie was in charge, Fergie even described the City result as his "worst day" at United.. every club gets a pasting from time to time.. Ah right. I thought that was what you meant but wasn't sure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber CaaC (John)+ 5,358 Posted April 21, 2019 Subscriber Share Posted April 21, 2019 Hats off to you toffee fans, you well and truly thumped us today As for Ole, I will wait until the season is over with and the beginning of next season and also see if Ole can bring his own players in and as I said before, get rid of the dead wood then I will judge him, getting pissed off with all these different managers coming and going, as for the City match at O/T I have just said to my son on the phone "Forget about the 2 bottles of wine you will give me if we can beat City for you this Wednesday to help your Liverpool out, just keep the wine, after today's performance United could not beat a 3rd division side atm the way they are playing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honey Honey 3,767 Posted April 21, 2019 Share Posted April 21, 2019 20 minutes ago, Inverted said: People relentlessly referring to Alex Ferguson with none of the understanding of what made him a great manager is easily one of the biggest reasons why the footballing culture around Man U is completely fucked. They think it was done by effort and not by relentlessly pressuring referees? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inverted 1,776 Posted April 21, 2019 Share Posted April 21, 2019 1 minute ago, Harvsky said: They think it was done by effort and not by relentlessly pressuring referees? More the idea that the club can be saved by reverting to some kind of sacred philosophy based on a man who's entire career was based on being a pure unashamed pragmatist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 21, 2019 Share Posted April 21, 2019 29 minutes ago, Mel81x said: As Michael Owen talks about how shit United have been David Moyes puts in a nice wry smile. Good on you David, good on you. Was he doing punditry? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carefreeluke 722 Posted April 21, 2019 Share Posted April 21, 2019 24 minutes ago, Cannabis said: You got the feeling this would be a big result, the Brick and Wilmslow bouncing before kick off for the first time in forever, the fans absolutely electric before the teams came out. We bossed them. Will post my thoughts later, but what a game. Silva's making things happen, along with Brands. United have serious problems too, serious riddled problems. There was talk of him getting sacked earlier in the season and Everton fans calling for his head. Things might not work out in the future for him but I'm a big believer that managers should get significant time. All that research and work bringing in a manager and money spent, only for them to be sacked after six months, just doesn't make sense in my eyes. Same with my club, as for as I'm concerned, Sarri should be given two years minimum and then have his position reassessed from there. Fans and the people in charge of clubs are too quick to hit the panic buttons as soon as things go wrong. This is modern football unfortunately but forward thinking can be worthwhile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber Mel81x+ 3,612 Posted April 21, 2019 Subscriber Share Posted April 21, 2019 1 hour ago, Gunnersauraus said: Was he doing punditry? Yeah he was with Michael Owen. Gave some proper calls on how United were as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IgnisExcubitor 678 Posted April 21, 2019 Share Posted April 21, 2019 City are going to score at least 6 against this United. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber Dan+ 1,915 Posted April 21, 2019 Subscriber Share Posted April 21, 2019 Manchester United are fucked for a long time. They won't win a trophy of significance for at least five years and I'll happily be quoted on that. They have deep-rooted issues and the problem is each summer of 'rebuilding' just leads to them adding to the problem. They've got a sporting director who is better at shirt selling than he is at building teams and that kind of sums up what they're about nowadays. Everton are starting to come good a bit. Far from the finished article but they're getting there. I kind of hope Silva does well there as I've said before that I don't think he's anywhere near as bad as made out to be and he was very much whatever opposite of flavour of the month is a couple of months back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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