6666 1,310 Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 Pretty sure that zonal marking it statistically a better option than man marking. People mainly think it's a disaster because idiot commentators and idiot pundits mention zonal marking as a problem everytime that system concedes a goal but only talk about a player losing his man when talking about man marking insinuating that man marking is never an issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber RandoEFC+ 7,640 Posted April 22, 2019 Subscriber Share Posted April 22, 2019 1 minute ago, 6666 said: Pretty sure that zonal marking it statistically a better option than man marking. People mainly think it's a disaster because idiot commentators and idiot pundits mention zonal marking as a problem everytime that system concedes a goal but only talk about a player losing his man when talking about man marking insinuating that man marking is never an issue. Yeah apparently stats show that zonal is a bit better than man marking. Silva got criticised it for us this season but it was always pretty clear that it was a red herring as the way we were setting up the same defenders would have fared no better if they were man marking. Burnley are proper narks aren't they? Just enough actual footballing ability to get away with not winning the Tony Pulis Memorial Award but a proper hard tackling, set piece exploiting, just about get away with as much as they can outfit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluewolf 7,161 Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 1 hour ago, Cicero said: Christensen completely lost his runner and ended up marking himself. School boy defending Would never have happened in the Mourhino era... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Artful Dodger 1,831 Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 9 minutes ago, 6666 said: Pretty sure that zonal marking it statistically a better option than man marking. People mainly think it's a disaster because idiot commentators and idiot pundits mention zonal marking as a problem everytime that system concedes a goal but only talk about a player losing his man when talking about man marking insinuating that man marking is never an issue. Isn't it just a matter of 'good marking' versus 'bad marking'? Going one to one leaves more room for an individual getting best but I don't think either is inherently better than the other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6666 1,310 Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 Just now, The Artful Dodger said: Isn't it just a matter of 'good marking' versus 'bad marking'? Going one to one leaves more room for an individual getting best but I don't think either is inherently better than the other. There are definitely pros and cons to both and neither are drastically better but the perception within English football is that managers opting for zonal marking are making an obvious mistake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike 5,086 Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 Zonal or Man is a pointless debate. Errors will occur no matter what. How many times have Chelsea been scored on via indirect free-kick/corner? I don't think that many times. When you think about it there has been three open play goals that resulted from errors in man marking, this game alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cicero 5,265 Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 Ridiculous going into halftime level. Hopefully CHO's injury isn't serious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFCMike 3,009 Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 I think most teams use a mix of both zonal and man-to-man at corners these days don't they? However for that second that Chelsea conceded it'll almost always be zonal because of the position of the free kick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cicero 5,265 Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 Just now, LFCMike said: I think most teams use a mix of both zonal and man-to-man these days don't they? However for that second that Chelsea conceded it'll almost always be zonal because of the position of the free kick. It was clear each had a runner to mark. Christensen in school boy fashion kept his eyes on the ball, completely losing his runner who was in open space to head the ball far post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike 5,086 Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 4 minutes ago, Cicero said: It was clear each had a runner to mark. Christensen in school boy fashion kept his eyes on the ball, completely losing his runner who was in open space to head the ball far post. And he would have done the same if it were man marking, because he lost his runner! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cicero 5,265 Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 Just now, Spike said: And he would have done the same if it were man marking, because he lost his runner! Yes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike 5,086 Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 Just now, Cicero said: Yes? What do you mean 'yes'!? You're the one that is having a meltdown about zonal marking here haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cicero 5,265 Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 3 minutes ago, Spike said: What do you mean 'yes'!? You're the one that is having a meltdown about zonal marking here haha I'm having a meltdown on Christensen losing his runner. I mentioned Zonal marking before I saw the replay of Christensen losing his runner.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carefreeluke 722 Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 Kovavic should be isolated from the rest of the group in training for the rest of the season to work on his shooting. Don’t think we’ve ever had a central midfielder in that department that’s as bad as he is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluewolf 7,161 Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 Blatant foul on Pedro and nothing given... this is going to be another one of them annoying games where we can't get the result we need Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Gonzo 8,159 Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 So did Kevin Friend just fuck up there (the Kevin Friend special!), and should Charlie Taylor have seen red? Or did Kevin Friend make the right decision there (a rarity!). I think that's a red tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Gonzo 8,159 Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 Just now, Bluewolf said: Blatant foul on Pedro and nothing given... this is going to be another one of them annoying games where we can't get the result we need If you want a referee who is good at his job, Kevin Friend is not your friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cicero 5,265 Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 Linesman should of seen that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluewolf 7,161 Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 Azpi needs to learn to change his approach to crosses... he is as see through as a pint glass.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluewolf 7,161 Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 If you are going to get a card then smack someone in the mouth and make it worth your while... Burnley and there zx spectrum created badge can fuck off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluewolf 7,161 Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 They wasted a lot of time tonight Burnley be we deserved nothing with our pretty passing ineffective football and shit defending.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6666 1,310 Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 At least Higuain had a fun time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluewolf 7,161 Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 1 hour ago, 6666 said: At least Higuain had a fun time. Didn't see him struggling to break free there... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carefreeluke 722 Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 5 minutes ago, Bluewolf said: Azpi needs to learn to change his approach to crosses... he is as see through as a pint glass.. Attacking know-how mate he just doesn't have in his locker I'm afraid. Our corners have been dreadful all season, too predictable, we need to stop with this near post bollocks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluewolf 7,161 Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 1 hour ago, carefreeluke said: Attacking know-how mate he just doesn't have in his locker I'm afraid. Our corners have been dreadful all season, too predictable, we need to stop with this near post bollocks. I would like to see the stats for those because I can't remember the last time we scored a goal from a corner?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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